I want to say "Thank You" for all your opinions.
While you should keep an eye on former inmates, would you say it's fair to completely ban someone from working anywhere because they had a problem at one work place and ended up with jailtime? That's basically how I'm looking at this right now...
Yes, I absolutely agree with this. The owner of Men's Warehouse is a former alcoholic and believes in Second Chances. Therefore, background checks are NOT part of their hiring process.
HOWEVER, people have only one life to live. Gamers, particularly on Steam, can have MANY accounts. A buddy of mine, who has hacked in the past, have about 5 accounts. There are members of this forum who have multiple accounts. We've been banning teamkilling trolls multiple times because they'll join on an alternative account to retaliate.
Also, we are NOT encouraging a "ban without evidence" policy. This is a warning to other communities that this player was caught hacking and banned. We would say "Keep an eye out".
I disagree with this idea completely. You are purposefully slandering someone else's name elsewhere, ban them, its that simple, but to go around and do that sort of stuff is wrong.
Also shame me, I used to hack.
Slander. Yes. I suppose this could fall under this definition, but then are Wanted posters slander? Is the Sex Offender Registry List slander (although I admit the laws governing who registers are outrageous in some places)?
This is about shaming a player. Kwaurtz, I used to "hack" too. Delta Force 4. I was just a 12 year old that liked to play games. My neighbor gave me a pirated copy of his video game ( didn't realize that at the time), and showed me a program to use to get infinite ammo, so many weapons, etc. "Is that cheating?" "Bleh. EVERYONE is using it. It's part of the game." I didn't even know because I was dumb and naive. I'm still ashamed I did that to a group of people. I'm ashamed of being that dumb.
Kwaurtz, I don't know if you feel guilty of your past hacking, but I certainly do. Are you still hacking? Do you need us to kick your online ass and shame the shit out of you to make you clean up? No? Then your tongue-in-cheek remark about shaming you is useless. This isn't about punish those who have hacked, it's shaming those who STILL ARE.
For 100% proven hackers. just post their names on some kind of "hackers watchlist" post. That others can refer to. and have their demos available under their name (so as to harden the proof/etc), but don't excessively bash and don't go to their friends and poke fun. If they're active on another community/clan you frequent. Sure, you can warn the admins/owners. But don't randomly go around warning everyone ever. No point to it.
Leet, Red mentioned putting up their demos on YouTube or something. The thing about a passive watchlist is that the other communities are probably not actively trying to interact with each other.
The last time communities got in touch was when He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named burned us and HuntersGaming.
I think that it makes sense telling another community to look out for "that guy" but nothing more. Someone from CG posted a look out type thing on a community forum that i am admin for and i think it was quite helpful.
This. This is it. Said much simpler and in two sentences. My story starts with me just wanting to tell his friend and evolved into warning another community. That's something I think can be good.