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On Strike until we are apponted a ZM Head Admin
by Christovski on 09 Jul, 2013 00:05
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Name: Christovski
Time you are leaving: Now
In Which server you are admin on: Zombie Master (Kill Factory)
Estimated time/date of return: When we get a Head Admin
Additional Comments: We've been PMing the CLs for months (since March at LEAST) asking for a head Admin to be appointed, and we were asked for our nominations over a month ago. We gave them a bunch of us to choose from stating that as long as the job got done we would be happy with their decision.
On June 3rd 2013 (Over a month ago) We were sent PM's to vote on who would be head admin. We gave them a choice between roughly 5 five people and I know for a fact everyone involved in that vote put theirs in within the week or gave their opinion on which people would be suitable for the job.
We have received almost nothing in response to our requests, one or two PMs from Inject and a few from Old Crow, but no response about actually getting anything done. We try to give them anything they ask us to do that would help the process, but still to no avail.
We have numerous issues that need fixing, admin plugins we want to use (sourcebans checker, chat filter, etc), ZM resource management is pretty crappy right now, and our map selection is in dire need of a COMPLETE overhaul. (We still have at least 5-10 maps that as soon as the server goes there, everyone leaves after a few minutes)
None of these issues would take more than a couple days to fix, if we had a head admin LIKE EVERY OTHER SERVER.
At first back in February we were given the excuse that "none of us were vet admins" BUT I used to be a head admin on ZPS 2 years ago, and I STILL have vet admin status on Pillz's ZPS server.
Otter is now also a vet, and I'm pretty sure the rest of us have been admin about 6 months, so we are all rather close to vet admins I would think.
So until we get a Head Admin in place, I refuse to try and do my job in an environment where we get no support from our Community Leaders.
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Reply #1
by CashPrizes on 09 Jul, 2013 00:19
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Have you engaged any of the Community Leaders in a convo on Steam?
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Reply #2
by Christovski on 09 Jul, 2013 00:28
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Cadaver is never online, but I saw him a month or so ago and talked to him about it. Inject and I get in huge arguments so I only PM him instead of Steam, and I've been pestering Old Crow weekly on Steam.
Jorgen I believe is on sick leave (not sure but haven't seen him in months) so I haven't bothered him since the first few PMs back in february/march
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Reply #3
by AbkaFlab on 09 Jul, 2013 00:44
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If your going to start a strike wouldn't it be a little more useful if you got the other ZM admins to go on strike with you?
EDIT: On topic though, how hard can it be to appoint a HA, make a thread about it, and then have the community vote on it? It sounds like such a simple task in theory.
Also, didnt see the other ZM admins time away posts before this. Mah bad
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Reply #4
by AlphaWeeaboo on 09 Jul, 2013 00:47
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If your going to start a strike wouldn't it be a little more useful if you got the other ZM admins to go on strike with you?
EDIT: On topic though, how hard can it be to appoint a HA, make a thread about it, and then have the community vote on it?
Everyone else pretty much is on strike and he already mentioned that there was a vote back in June that was never acted on because they are trying to get the CL's attention.
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Reply #5
by Christovski on 09 Jul, 2013 00:52
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If your going to start a strike wouldn't it be a little more useful if you got the other ZM admins to go on strike with you?
Every ZM admin is, there are only 4 of us left.
Dante resigned to focus on APB and DOTA, and Sammeh transferred to ZPS with Pillz
We gave our HA nominees to the CL's but nothing came of it, no vote was ever started.
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Reply #6
by AbkaFlab on 09 Jul, 2013 00:53
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If your going to start a strike wouldn't it be a little more useful if you got the other ZM admins to go on strike with you?
EDIT: On topic though, how hard can it be to appoint a HA, make a thread about it, and then have the community vote on it?
he already mentioned that there was a vote back in June that was never acted on because they are trying to get the CL's attention.
I know, my post was a more of wow, that can't take that long to do type of post. Not a literal question.
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Reply #7
by AlphaWeeaboo on 09 Jul, 2013 01:39
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If your going to start a strike wouldn't it be a little more useful if you got the other ZM admins to go on strike with you?
EDIT: On topic though, how hard can it be to appoint a HA, make a thread about it, and then have the community vote on it?
he already mentioned that there was a vote back in June that was never acted on because they are trying to get the CL's attention.
I know, my post was a more of wow, that can't take that long to do type of post. Not a literal question.
Yeah i kind of figured that after I posted, sorry bout dat
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Reply #8
by Sammy on 09 Jul, 2013 06:35
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I'll do it on this one as well... Yeah I got sick of waiting so I asked for a transfer. It sometimes gets me asking what the higher ups have in mind for ZM.. whether they are actually just going to ditch it or something.... I cant see why its taken now 8-9 months to find a suitable replacement for Arbys.
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Reply #9
by Leetgrain on 09 Jul, 2013 10:17
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Hope you get it done, know how long it's taken for you guys.
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Reply #10
by Dante on 09 Jul, 2013 14:11
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If your going to start a strike wouldn't it be a little more useful if you got the other ZM admins to go on strike with you?
Every ZM admin is, there are only 4 of us left.
Dante resigned to focus on APB and DOTA, and Sammeh transferred to ZPS with Pillz
We gave our HA nominees to the CL's but nothing came of it, no vote was ever started.
That and The fact we had no HA when almost every CL said they would appoint a HA. It was a pain when I got on and had to deal with the furrys spamming about porn in a few maps. Along with other things needed to keep the server going. Hell the server would have gotten bigger fast if we got that updated map Banshee requested, but inject never updated it and we never got an HA to update these things.
(Also am Done with APB and Dota for a while, the Pubbers are driving me up a tree.
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Reply #11
by Christovski on 09 Jul, 2013 20:40
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Ok so still no response from the CLs. Waiting on you guys.
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Reply #12
by Christovski on 12 Jul, 2013 16:34
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Ok so response from one CL:
ZM has deserved an HA since at least May, but progress has been glacial.
I was waiting for the other CL's to add something to this, but nothing has been said so I will add my thoughts to the discussion.
I've talked to all of the ZM admins about this process for the past three months but I can only do so much, for I am not a dictator and cannot overstep my boundaries. I've already told the other CL's who I would think is best for HA and have recommended moving forward, but again I can only do so much.
Gustav, Chris actually was a Vet before his first resignation. Otter is also already a Vet, so that is a moot point. However, as Death pointed out, under certain special circumstances the CL's can appoint somebody an HA if they are qualified for the position and the server in question needs an HA.
Any other CL's want to tell us what is up? I mean even just telling us what's going on, SOMETHING to let us know you are aware of the situation, or even better that you are willing to work with us to get something done??
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Reply #13
by Pillz on 12 Jul, 2013 17:04
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There aren't enough CL's giving a fuck it seems. This is how a community falls apart. RIP
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Reply #14
by Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on 12 Jul, 2013 17:35
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There aren't enough CL's giving a fuck it seems. This is how a community falls apart. RIP
What the actual fuck? That's a little over dramatic.