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Solved Admin Abuse / Re: TRolling on the server
« on: January 13, 2013, 10:57:53 AM »
This is very disappointing...

Going to download the Dem in a minute. Did this really happen, people...?

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Way Off Topic Box / Re: Post a picture of your self here because....
« on: January 13, 2013, 09:37:20 AM »
That's just a regular paper party hat :V

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Way Off Topic Box / Re: Picture Wars? Picture Wars.
« on: January 13, 2013, 07:23:16 AM »

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Help Section / Re: Pillz's PC Problems
« on: January 13, 2013, 07:03:30 AM »
Too late black - he fixed it a good 4 hours before you posted! xP

Good to hear you fixed it.

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Minecraft / Re: Minecraft time
« on: January 12, 2013, 09:20:54 PM »
I want to make a massive mountain city, with fully accessible buildings, streets and etc :>

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Way Off Topic Box / Re: Post a picture of your self here because....
« on: January 12, 2013, 08:47:54 AM »


Only leaving this up for a little bit. No one quote this.

Why do you have a 'Washington DC' T-shirt with a flipped Monster logo? (W) :>

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Debate Forum / Re: Gun control: Due to recent events
« on: January 12, 2013, 12:07:41 AM »
You guys don't wanna blame video games for it, why blame the guns?
because as hard as I try, I can't kill someone in real life with a video game.

Slit his throat with the disc, beat him with the case, show him superman 64, launch the disc out of a homemade disc launcher.

I dunno. :V

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Debate Forum / Re: The topic of homophobia
« on: January 11, 2013, 09:46:56 PM »
The question was not if calling a person "gay" was offensive, but rather if using it to describe something else or using in the place of another insult.
Exactly which is what I think leet missed on my post.

I didn't, I already wrote about that in a previous post - was just writing my opinions down.

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Debate Forum / Re: The topic of homophobia
« on: January 11, 2013, 07:16:11 PM »
It is one word that a good deal of people STILL FIND OFFENSIVE. We're not asking you to not curse or joke around, just stop using one word. It's easier to eliminate a hateful word than do a case by case analysis of "He's being offensive" "He's just joking" .... I could careless about the word but I don't want people not coming to CG because we use "gay" as stupid. A gay person can see it as offensive that their sexuality a synonym with being stupid.

Why is it so hard to remove this 1 word from your vocabulary? If it makes people feel more welcome to not hear "this is gay" "that is gay" why not just stop using it. If the word is so meaningless to you (ie: it's just another way to say stupid) then use a more meaningful word.

As a kid I was told "What you do (and say) is 10% intent and 90% how it is perceived"

Let's put this in the real world. Imagine you are in a work place and you say "This project is so gay, it keeps crashing my computer." If a straight person hears this and feels offended (maybe he has a gay sibling?) you can loose your job for sexual harassment. I know that it is stupid but that is how shit is here.

Just my thoughts, do with them as you will.

^ This, This so much.

While yes, it would be easy to remove that one word from your vocabulary, the problem for me is that it is common vocabulary for both in my field, and for the area in which I live.

How is this any different from an area or field where people say the N-word a lot? They still manage to not use it here...

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If i say the N Word in front of a black man(on avg), he becomes VERY offended.
If I say the G Word in front of a gay man(on avg), he says lol wut? And doesn't care.

The N word is not a commonly word used in society to say you hate someone or that someone is a jack ass, and is still very well defined as a racist term for black people. IE: that this would be unacceptable to use.

Where is gay (also btw not a race), is a word that is already well formed into societys dictionarys into a word that means nothing of the meaning you are applying to it. Like kwaurtz said you giving a word weight it just simply doesn't have.

Okay, Replace Gay with F****t, is he offended now? Like I said, gay isn't an insult and people who use it as one are derped, but if people use  F****t in a form of contempt (Not trolling), then I'd be very offended.
Depends how you say it and why your saying it.

But generally no.

Although I don't generally call my friends Fa****s as I reserve that for people I actually dislike or to whole I'm having a quarrel with.
Gay, is an insult when it is used as one (which btw is more then 90% of the time), But as that's being said it's being used only as a blank insult and not as the homosexual term you give to it.

I could say:

That fudgeing cupcake I wish someone would fudgeing kill that giant funbugger and shove a bisket up his bum.

Their really is no difference in that and it's counter parts of actual sware words. The words still hold the same weight.
I'm not going to translate that sentence, but it should be obvious.

Stop being hypersensitive and grow up, is how I see it in my opinion. That being said post up^^^ to my previous post.

Like I said, If you say it as a form of contempt (if you're using it as an insult to someone who's actually gay.) he's going to get offended, you can get offended by a lot of things (even things that are not worth being offended over - the little things, basically.) - and I can get offended by things, if someone insults me I'm going to be pissed off, just like you would, Inject.

and what you said about alternative swear words and actual swear words has some truth, but still, if someone said "I don't care, you're a blooming Fruitcake." I wouldn't be AS offended as someone saying "I don't care, you're a f*cking F****t.", and if you swap the words around you could bend those sentences around yourself.

And using that word against someone who isn't actually gay isn't going to affect them in the slightest, if they actually WERE gay then they probably would take quite a bit of offense to it.

I would write more but I'm too drained today - and on top of that going to have someone here, so I'll write... probably about midnight/morning my time, if not tomorrow.

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Debate Forum / Re: The topic of homophobia
« on: January 11, 2013, 06:08:51 PM »
It is one word that a good deal of people STILL FIND OFFENSIVE. We're not asking you to not curse or joke around, just stop using one word. It's easier to eliminate a hateful word than do a case by case analysis of "He's being offensive" "He's just joking" .... I could careless about the word but I don't want people not coming to CG because we use "gay" as stupid. A gay person can see it as offensive that their sexuality a synonym with being stupid.

Why is it so hard to remove this 1 word from your vocabulary? If it makes people feel more welcome to not hear "this is gay" "that is gay" why not just stop using it. If the word is so meaningless to you (ie: it's just another way to say stupid) then use a more meaningful word.

As a kid I was told "What you do (and say) is 10% intent and 90% how it is perceived"

Let's put this in the real world. Imagine you are in a work place and you say "This project is so gay, it keeps crashing my computer." If a straight person hears this and feels offended (maybe he has a gay sibling?) you can loose your job for sexual harassment. I know that it is stupid but that is how shit is here.

Just my thoughts, do with them as you will.

^ This, This so much.

While yes, it would be easy to remove that one word from your vocabulary, the problem for me is that it is common vocabulary for both in my field, and for the area in which I live.

How is this any different from an area or field where people say the N-word a lot? They still manage to not use it here...

1.
If i say the N Word in front of a black man(on avg), he becomes VERY offended.
If I say the G Word in front of a gay man(on avg), he says lol wut? And doesn't care.

The N word is not a commonly word used in society to say you hate someone or that someone is a jack ass, and is still very well defined as a racist term for black people. IE: that this would be unacceptable to use.

Where is gay (also btw not a race), is a word that is already well formed into societys dictionarys into a word that means nothing of the meaning you are applying to it. Like kwaurtz said you giving a word weight it just simply doesn't have.

Okay, Replace Gay with F****t, is he offended now? Like I said, gay isn't an insult and people who use it as one are derped, but if people use  F****t in a form of contempt (Not trolling), then I'd be very offended.

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Debate Forum / Re: The topic of homophobia
« on: January 11, 2013, 03:09:30 PM »
It is one word that a good deal of people STILL FIND OFFENSIVE. We're not asking you to not curse or joke around, just stop using one word. It's easier to eliminate a hateful word than do a case by case analysis of "He's being offensive" "He's just joking" .... I could careless about the word but I don't want people not coming to CG because we use "gay" as stupid. A gay person can see it as offensive that their sexuality a synonym with being stupid.

Why is it so hard to remove this 1 word from your vocabulary? If it makes people feel more welcome to not hear "this is gay" "that is gay" why not just stop using it. If the word is so meaningless to you (ie: it's just another way to say stupid) then use a more meaningful word.

As a kid I was told "What you do (and say) is 10% intent and 90% how it is perceived"

Let's put this in the real world. Imagine you are in a work place and you say "This project is so gay, it keeps crashing my computer." If a straight person hears this and feels offended (maybe he has a gay sibling?) you can loose your job for sexual harassment. I know that it is stupid but that is how shit is here.

Just my thoughts, do with them as you will.

^ This, This so much.

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Debate Forum / Re: The topic of homophobia
« on: January 11, 2013, 02:39:26 PM »
Using terms like 'gay' in any other sense then sexuality is just dumb in my opinion, you can't really call an inanimate object gay, it's immature but although I think this, I also do sometimes say it in that sense - without thinking actually, I think that the word's just changed to have different meanings in different situations.

But when you use sexuality as an insult or thinking of homosexuality as offensive/bad is just plain out of order, I don't like when people use homosexuality as an insult, it's just borderline idiotic and it does offend me if it has actual contempt in it, if it's trolling it doesn't affect me, but still.

Just my two cents pence.


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Solved Applications / Re: Snak's hidden source admin application
« on: January 09, 2013, 05:23:33 PM »
Going to say -1 at the mo unfortunately, he's a fun guy but he needs to clean up his act first.

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General Gaming Talk / Re: Dead Space
« on: January 08, 2013, 06:00:51 PM »
DS1 & DS2 are great games but they weren't 'terrifying', DS3 will probably just bland it out unfortunately.
DS1 & DS2 are great games but they weren't 'terrifying', DS3 will probably just bland it out unfortunately.
I SOMEWHAT disagree. DS1 was more jump-scare tactic and it worked well with the settings. Quite honestly, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

DS2 however, I was more into the story than the scare tactics.... I somewhat knew where they were placed, but it was quite disturbing to say the least.

I counter with


I see your Smiley Sun and raise you:

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General Gaming Talk / Re: Dead Space
« on: January 08, 2013, 04:05:54 PM »
DS1 & DS2 are great games but they weren't 'terrifying', DS3 will probably just bland it out unfortunately.
I SOMEWHAT disagree. DS1 was more jump-scare tactic and it worked well with the settings. Quite honestly, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

DS2 however, I was more into the story than the scare tactics.... I somewhat knew where they were placed, but it was quite disturbing to say the least.

I also somewhat agree with you, DS2's story was great (and DS1's), but it wasn't as scary as I expected, except from that part in DS2 where the fire-extinguishers went off, but that was because of an extremely loud sound that took me by surprise (a cheap shot xP)

DS1 on the other hand brought more... unease, the dark could be a little eerie but that's all.

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