+1 for sure. I cannot see why this wouldn't be approved.
To bring order to the chaos.
Thanks for the overwhelmingly positive response guysIt's a bad timing to post it really...
+1 Chris is always showing us that we need to be better so let's give him power to slap us into doing it
I agree with Kwaurtz on this. There are a lot of other people who would do better.+1 Chris is always showing us that we need to be better so let's give him power to slap us into doing it
Fuck no. Christovski probably has one of the worst attitude amongst the applicants. I'd rather Yahtzee have CL over Christovski.
Christovski: It's funny you think anyone still wants you here Kwaurtz. OOPS I said that out loud?A CL/HA should not talk to people like that. Be they a fellow admin or player.
I agree with Kwaurtz on this. There are a lot of other people who would do better.+1 Chris is always showing us that we need to be better so let's give him power to slap us into doing it
Fuck no. Christovski probably has one of the worst attitude amongst the applicants. I'd rather Yahtzee have CL over Christovski.
Not to mentionQuoteChristovski: It's funny you think anyone still wants you here Kwaurtz. OOPS I said that out loud?A CL/HA should not talk to people like that. Be they a fellow admin or player.
Billy, you've been biased against Chris for ages, due to his calling you out on your sexism and other questionable forum activity.
Whoa, Which other CL's did this other then Inject, Which is questionable. Also we really have no power over Inject in any case. If Chris wants to have CL he has to abide by all rulez. Which is why it sayz it on the top of the browser.
Dante, remember that time Inject called Chris a redneck in the 4th of July thread? What about the countless flaming about nintendo consoles? Maybe you recall the time Inject screamed over the mic on ZM and ragequit after we were discussing ME3? Yeah, you really shouldn't be judging Chris's app based upon standards that not even the current CL follows.
So that's different from our current CL, how?Billy, you've been biased against Chris for ages, due to his calling you out on your sexism and other questionable forum activity.
Do we really have to go over this again? He completely misread what I typed and went from there. That's not even the point. I'm not biased against Chris at all. You clearly don't know me if that's what you honestly believe. And even if I was, it would be for reasons that span far beyond that one thread. I still think he's just not mature enough to be a CL. It's that simple. He's not good at handling criticism, or ignoring people.
So that's different from our current CL, how?
So that's different from our current CL, how?
So, it's okay to hire someone unfit to be a CL, because our current CL is unfit to be a CL. Is this what you're saying?
Technically we can't if we still have the same head honcho.So that's different from our current CL, how?
So, it's okay to hire someone unfit to be a CL, because our current CL is unfit to be a CL. Is this what you're saying?
I'm saying you can't have double standards like that. My suggestion is to wipe the board clean. A new start with a new staff.
We can if we ditch the head honcho. Like has been said before: This is your community. Take it back.Technically we can't if we still have the same head honcho.So that's different from our current CL, how?
So, it's okay to hire someone unfit to be a CL, because our current CL is unfit to be a CL. Is this what you're saying?
I'm saying you can't have double standards like that. My suggestion is to wipe the board clean. A new start with a new staff.
Nothing is Ever Truly Free.We can if we ditch the head honcho. Like has been said before: This is your community. Take it back.Technically we can't if we still have the same head honcho.So that's different from our current CL, how?
So, it's okay to hire someone unfit to be a CL, because our current CL is unfit to be a CL. Is this what you're saying?
I'm saying you can't have double standards like that. My suggestion is to wipe the board clean. A new start with a new staff.
We can if we ditch the head honcho. Like has been said before: This is your community. Take it back.Technically we can't if we still have the same head honcho.So that's different from our current CL, how?
So, it's okay to hire someone unfit to be a CL, because our current CL is unfit to be a CL. Is this what you're saying?
I'm saying you can't have double standards like that. My suggestion is to wipe the board clean. A new start with a new staff.
-1 Generally poor attitude. I thought he was pretty chill but since he became HA I don't think giving him more power is a good idea, especially not when shit has gone sideways.
+1 Chris for telling it like it is.
Kwuartz, you pulled a me (only with no information in the resignation), and refuse to own up to it. You're pretty lucky you got to keep the position. I was vet before I resigned, and have jack shit now. Don't take it out on Chris when he told you that you dun goofed.
Billy, you've been biased against Chris for ages, due to his calling you out on your sexism and other questionable forum activity.
Dante, remember that time Inject called Chris a redneck in the 4th of July thread? What about the countless flaming about nintendo consoles? Maybe you recall the time Inject screamed over the mic on ZM and ragequit after we were discussing ME3? Yeah, you really shouldn't be judging Chris's app based upon standards that not even the current CL follows.
Kwuartz, you pulled a me (only with no information in the resignation), and refuse to own up to it. You're pretty lucky you got to keep the position. I was vet before I resigned, and have jack shit now. Don't take it out on Chris when he told you that you dun goofed.Every time I read something written by you I lose it. You are aware that at one point I was a HA and then a CL right? Like jesus christ I feel my IQ dips in the negatives every time I read something you write.
Kwuartz, you pulled a me (only with no information in the resignation), and refuse to own up to it. You're pretty lucky you got to keep the position. I was vet before I resigned, and have jack shit now. Don't take it out on Chris when he told you that you dun goofed.Every time I read something written by you I lose it. You are aware that at one point I was a HA and then a CL right? Like jesus christ I feel my IQ dips in the negatives every time I read something you write.
Unless I'm missing something, I don't see how that's relevant to what he posted.
TL;DR: In the last year I haven't seen anything from you as deserving of respect, and I've seen plenty of things that garner disrepsect, nothing positive to counter-balance the negative.
Dante, remember that time Inject called Chris a redneck in the 4th of July thread? What about the countless flaming about nintendo consoles? Maybe you recall the time Inject screamed over the mic on ZM and ragequit after we were discussing ME3? Yeah, you really shouldn't be judging Chris's app based upon standards that not even the current CL follows.Does no one realize I am probably the person who hates Inject the most? He bullied me when I was younger, like so fucking much, hell when WG got kicked out asked if we could get rid of Inject too.
Yeah, you really shouldn't be judging Chris's app based upon standards that not even the current CL follows.Are you serious? If were going to allow people who disrespect players/admins to run the community you might as well run in Kwaurtz as Community Leader.
-1 Generally poor attitude. I thought he was pretty chill but since he became HA I don't think giving him more power is a good idea, especially not when shit has gone sideways.Pretty much this, I haven't really seen anything that makes me think he would be a good candidate for CL.
Actually, I talk to you like you're a Negative Nancy and supposed 'reformed' troll, whose only contribution in the last few months has been raging that CG doesn't have the funds for a dedicated NS2 server and going on at length about how you think Inject is going to ruin CG. I've literally never seen you do anything positive for the community in the past year, unless you count the spreading of negative attitude as a positive thing?
You ragequit with your resignation thread, but then came back later and tried to play it off like you didn't rage, and all you've done since is go on about CG being dead and that Inject is going to watch it burn. That strikes me as sad and pointless behavior, completely unneeded at this time, so all I see is dead weight needing to be cut off.
TL;DR: In the last year I haven't seen anything from you as deserving of respect, and I've seen plenty of things that garner disrepsect, nothing positive to counter-balance the negative.
That's all I have to say on this subject.
I play games that have their own voice chat rendering Teamspeak completely pointless, I've never seen the point of it so long as the forums existThe point of teamspeak is to talk to other members of the community. Get to know people from the other servers, like Hidden and TTT.
I play games that have their own voice chat rendering Teamspeak completely pointless, I've never seen the point of it so long as the forums existThe point of teamspeak is to talk to other members of the community. Get to know people from the other servers, like Hidden and TTT.
This community has hit rock bottom, and after that you can only go up.That is not true CG can go even farther down into the depths of hell by you know? Disbanding.
Guys, listen to yourselves. This IS WHY CG is the way it is, no one can get a long.He has proven that he will disrespect players AND admins as an HA, why give him more power?
I've known Chris for a long time, 4 years now, and sure he can be a little sarcastic and harsh from time to time, but that doesn't mean he's going to have a "poor attitude" towards being a CL. He would make an awesome CL, you know why? Because I've seen him under leadership. I don't know who half of you are, which means you probably weren't around when KAT was up and going, or maybe you were. But I myself do know from first hand experience that both Chris and Pillz ran KAT awesomely and it was never anything but fun.
This is why I'm so pro Pillz and Chris for CL's. They work well with one another and can definitely put their brains together and do something to better this community. I don't know what else you guys expect to happen, even if Chris doesn't get CL he's still going to be around pissing you all off like you say he does. If you hate or dislike Chris, set your grudges aside and give him a chance.
This community has hit rock bottom, and after that you can only go up.
That is not true CG can go even farther down into the depths of hell by you know? Disbanding.
He has proven that he will disrespect players AND admins as an HA, why give him more power?
You wan't this community to not die and to actually be better than it was? Then choose people who wont disrespect people!
Claire I wanted Inject kicked out when WG got kicked out, hell even before that.QuoteThat is not true CG can go even farther down into the depths of hell by you know? Disbanding.
Yeah, I'm aware. If you really want to look it as CG no longer existing being rock bottom, you have a point. But that's not how I'm seeing it. This is rock bottom while it's existing.QuoteHe has proven that he will disrespect players AND admins as an HA, why give him more power?
You wan't this community to not die and to actually be better than it was? Then choose people who wont disrespect people!
Not to throw any other CL's under the bus, but uhm, I'm pretty positive that there has been some disrespect from other leaders. YOU YOURSELF claimed that Inject has bullied you. That is disrespect. He's still CL! I don't have anything against Inject and I am also NOT saying that disrespect is acceptable, at all. But my point is; you won't know how Chris will do until you give it a shot. What is there to lose?
Claire I wanted Inject kicked out when WG got kicked out, hell even before that.QuoteThat is not true CG can go even farther down into the depths of hell by you know? Disbanding.
Yeah, I'm aware. If you really want to look it as CG no longer existing being rock bottom, you have a point. But that's not how I'm seeing it. This is rock bottom while it's existing.QuoteHe has proven that he will disrespect players AND admins as an HA, why give him more power?
You wan't this community to not die and to actually be better than it was? Then choose people who wont disrespect people!
Not to throw any other CL's under the bus, but uhm, I'm pretty positive that there has been some disrespect from other leaders. YOU YOURSELF claimed that Inject has bullied you. That is disrespect. He's still CL! I don't have anything against Inject and I am also NOT saying that disrespect is acceptable, at all. But my point is; you won't know how Chris will do until you give it a shot. What is there to lose?
"you won't know how Chris will do until you give it a shot" Actually we do, he has Head Admin. And he treats people poorly, we don't need 2 CLS who will act and treat others poorly.
Claire I wanted Inject kicked out when WG got kicked out, hell even before that.
"you won't know how Chris will do until you give it a shot" Actually we do, he has Head Admin. And he treats people poorly, we don't need 2 CLS who will act and treat others poorly.
I know your not it was a typo/derp, sorry!QuoteClaire I wanted Inject kicked out when WG got kicked out, hell even before that.
"you won't know how Chris will do until you give it a shot" Actually we do, he has Head Admin. And he treats people poorly, we don't need 2 CLS who will act and treat others poorly.
First off, I'm not Claire. Secondly, I'm not going to sit here and argue with you about this. Clearly you do not want Chris as CL, that's fine. I disagree with you on so many levels, but I have made my point and I respect your thoughts on this.
But my point is; you won't know how Chris will do until you give it a shot. What is there to lose?
Hi, I'm Dante I in KAT and walked into SKG servers randomly till CG reared its chimera head.But my point is; you won't know how Chris will do until you give it a shot. What is there to lose?
Hi, I'm Billy. I've been around almost just as long as Chris has. Wanna give me a shot at CL? What's there to lose? :D
Guys, listen to yourselves. This IS WHY CG is the way it is, no one can get a long.He has proven that he will disrespect players AND admins as an HA, why give him more power?
I've known Chris for a long time, 4 years now, and sure he can be a little sarcastic and harsh from time to time, but that doesn't mean he's going to have a "poor attitude" towards being a CL. He would make an awesome CL, you know why? Because I've seen him under leadership. I don't know who half of you are, which means you probably weren't around when KAT was up and going, or maybe you were. But I myself do know from first hand experience that both Chris and Pillz ran KAT awesomely and it was never anything but fun.
This is why I'm so pro Pillz and Chris for CL's. They work well with one another and can definitely put their brains together and do something to better this community. I don't know what else you guys expect to happen, even if Chris doesn't get CL he's still going to be around pissing you all off like you say he does. If you hate or dislike Chris, set your grudges aside and give him a chance.
This community has hit rock bottom, and after that you can only go up.
Seeing as that's mostly false and the only time I've seen him disrespect people is when they blatantly disrespect him.No thats not mostly false. I have listened to him attack people on ZM under one of my 60million names, hell Im not the only one saying this, towersheep is too. I even quoted an instance. So mostly false, no. Not false at all.
I'd also like to point out that you have had several admin abuse complaints and if I recall you've also had a serious attitude problem in the past being completely unable to accept forms of criticism or being told you're wrong.I am sorry I thought this was Christovskis CL app. Not a complain about Dante thread.
I've seen and heard how upset you can become in game over the slightest thing, yet we still give you chances with admin.
Chris get's upset when people attack him or purposely try to start stuff, you've become upset because people corrected you on a rule you didn't full understand.Which isn't a good trait for a CL to have, a cl should be able to remain calm and collective or no when to walk away, which Chris doesn't do.
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That argument doesn't make any sense. Just because Current CLs do bad things doesn't mean I want new CLs that might do bad things. You don't know how ANY applicants will do until they're already doing it, that doesn't mean you shouldn't use your judgement to decide if they'll do a good job.QuoteHe has proven that he will disrespect players AND admins as an HA, why give him more power?
You wan't this community to not die and to actually be better than it was? Then choose people who wont disrespect people!
Not to throw any other CL's under the bus, but uhm, I'm pretty positive that there has been some disrespect from other leaders. YOU YOURSELF claimed that Inject has bullied you. That is disrespect. He's still CL! I don't have anything against Inject and I am also NOT saying that disrespect is acceptable, at all. But my point is; you won't know how Chris will do until you give it a shot. What is there to lose?