Cix is gagged EVERYTIME I get on. Most of the times by me, but I've seen other admins gag him. I feel like I've seen him rdm but I don't remember for sure if he was or not. It depends on the reason he was banned. If he was banned for breaking a rule, keep him banned. If he was banned for his past, unban him as we don't ban for things done on servers in the past.
Note: The people who appealed and won their unperma ban were unbanned due to WG related (or sketchy) bans not breaking rules on a server.
Permabans are suppose to be permanent and seems like he did not care about it then to make a ban appeal.He obviously cares to some extent considering he just appealed.
Permabans are suppose to be permanent and seems like he did not care about it then to make a ban appeal.He obviously cares to some extent considering he just appealed.
Maybe he spent that year repenting his sins?I just don't see why other people unbanned due to sourcebans like snak weren't rebanned immediately. Do we have any kind of policy for this kind of stuff or are we just deciding whether or not we like the person?Permabans are suppose to be permanent and seems like he did not care about it then to make a ban appeal.He obviously cares to some extent considering he just appealed.
A full year AFTER being permabanned??
So the only reason why he was on the server, was because we don't have sourcebans anymore aka he would have stayed permabanned until an appeal was made.
Maybe he spent that year repenting his sins?I just don't see why other people unbanned due to sourcebans like snak weren't rebanned immediately. Do we have any kind of policy for this kind of stuff or are we just deciding whether or not we like the person?Permabans are suppose to be permanent and seems like he did not care about it then to make a ban appeal.He obviously cares to some extent considering he just appealed.
A full year AFTER being permabanned??
So the only reason why he was on the server, was because we don't have sourcebans anymore aka he would have stayed permabanned until an appeal was made.
Blackllama, not everything is so black and white. After the Wholegrain fiasco we had to take a step back and reevaluate the bans that had taken place for the wrong reasons. Yes, some people were given a second change but that is because they asked after it was all over, showing that they might actually have cared about CG at some point. The only reason cixelsyD was unbanned was because not all of the sourcebans got carried over. If we give cixelsyD a second chance for no apparent reason then we would have to give every single hacker, ghoster or RDMer that was ever permanently banned a second chance as well. When it comes to legitimate bans for broken rules, permanent means permanent. I'm going to leave this open for more discussion but this is my verdict until convinced otherwise.I still don't understand why snak is being associated with wholegrain. Wholegrain had literally nothing to do with it. He was perma'd for Mass rdm and trolling. He was no longer banned because of sourcebans. He never appealed it. People decided to let him stay.
Those people were unbanned because of WG leaving, Snak was a completely different reason and subject. I don't get why he would be thrown into that melting pot.
I still don't understand what WG had to do with snak, but I don't think I ever will at this point. You probably know I disagree with using WG as a reason to unban all of those people. I was trying to talk about the ttt ban, not the forum ban. The ttt ban was the same situation as cix. Perma'd on SB. Was playing on server anyway. Snak was allowed too play, Cix wasn't. This was before Snak appealed the forum ban, before you had your big meeting about unbanning him. Why don't we give Cix the same thing we gave Snak? Unban him, see if he fucks it up, reban him if he does. Aren't you a fan of the saying "Give them enough rope and they will hang themself"? Why not give him the rope, and see if he hangs himself.Those people were unbanned because of WG leaving, Snak was a completely different reason and subject. I don't get why he would be thrown into that melting pot.
Incorrect. Snak was unbanned in the "Great Unbanning." I know cause I was in on the decision process. You do not know, cause you were not a CL, nor requested by CL to review the permabans to remove, as I was. Due to WG being a tool, and WG's requesting the rebanning Snak, he was given a second chance... Yes, the thread is out there, and did get discussed, but the primary reason was the Unbanning, not the thread...
So, the inconsistency you perceive, did not exist...
Trust me, the Unbanning, all of the bans removed, were discussed, with CL, the former CL (me,) and several HA, and several Vets. Several were suggested by HA, CL, Vets, Admin, and even regulars of CG.
If you notice, several of the bans remained. (Ellie, San445, Exultion, etc.) They were not unbanned, due to the fact WG had nothing remotely to do with their bans.
"Blackllama, not everything is so black and white." Sure it is. If it isnt bLACKllAMA, its his brother, White.
I play with him , he did troll a bit but isnt a big trouble he's just new on the server and didnt know / remember all of our rulesThat's no excuse, there's an MOTD that shows up upon entering the server.