Ok since now were not allowed to record in vent im assuming now we cant record videos in, TTT, ZM, TF2 .etc, Because people can edit game play videos to make others look worse. /end sarcasm.
TF2 or Gaming servers are not DEDICATED Voice Communication Chat Platforms and are designed for videos are we have a youtube channel revolving around that. Our gaming servers are completely public. Our ventrilo is open to only CG members even though none cg members occasionally skip inside as well on the rare occasion.
We permote gaming videos as we are a GAMING community. And although you probably could even tell someone in TF2 that their going to be in a CG Video it's not as big a deal if you don't
If however you join ventrilo and want to case a hell hold of drama you can just go fuck right off because I'll have none of it.
It's not up for discussion.
The rule can have slight adjustments but that's all. Obviously you don't understand the seriousness of this.
Perhaps your the only one whos not aware of that. It's a 20 Slot vent. It was made CG members so they can talk much like the forum. We simply do not the the slot limit to allow more then CG members in it. If you think that ventrilo is exactly like a game server then I question why your even using a computer in the first place.TF2 or Gaming servers are not DEDICATED Voice Communication Chat Platforms and are designed for videos are we have a youtube channel revolving around that. Our gaming servers are completely public. Our ventrilo is open to only CG members even though none cg members occasionally skip inside as well on the rare occasion.
We permote gaming videos as we are a GAMING community. And although you probably could even tell someone in TF2 that their going to be in a CG Video it's not as big a deal if you don't
If however you join ventrilo and want to case a hell hold of drama you can just go fuck right off because I'll have none of it.
It's not up for discussion.
The rule can have slight adjustments but that's all. Obviously you don't understand the seriousness of this.
I don't think anyone is aware that our vent is CG only, I was not aware of that anyway. I don't understand how it is any more private then our game servers. It is on our front page, there is no password, anyone can join. What makes it CG only?
Also, the punishment is absurd. 'Major' is opinionated, it can be decided what is major and what is not by the CLs. If you record something you think is major, and the CL does not, they get to permaban you from everything. What is major and what is not needs to be defined.
I removed everything else in this post because I didn't see the part where it excludes the breaking of major cg rulesThat was referring to how the rule specifies the rules we can record for breaking, and then other "major" rules. Major is bound to be interpreted differently by different people, and this is essentially saying you cannot report vent conversations for the breaking of rules deemed minor by the administration. While rules have different punishment standards, I do not agree that that only some should be upheld before others. Players should be allowed to record conversations to use in the reporting of all rules that are broken, in my opinion.
It's not up for discussion.When a rule comes up without visible prior discussion, of course players are going to inquire of it. While I realize you/Wholegrain/Cadaver do not want to budge on the rule, which I respect, the community should still be allowed to discuss the grounds of the rule as well as clarifications. You do not personally have to take part in the discussion, if you'd prefer not to. However, if you'd literally like to cease the discussion, then this will be my final post on this thread.
I agree with whole. The punishment is too harsh unless its malicious but who really records vent anyway, it seems like it would be boring because half the time its just us in game or just making jokes that we have said a million times over.The punishment was modified and is not to harsh. Problem is you can't word it to say IF WITH MALICIOUS intent because the people doing it don't believe their being malicious. It's to warn them to screw off from doing it. Obviously no ones going to make a massive fuss out of if John came in and recorded some stuff for humour however with the rule in place it would be nice if he still informed everyone hes recording which if i recall he usually does.
I do like that the rule is added however, its better to err on the side of caution and make things clear instead of this being some kind of unwritten rule. If things are black and white I see no problems.
I'm not trolling anybody here, Inject.I understand how major is a grey area. Which is why unless you here blatant Racism or similar you should just refrain from doing so without telling a CL that you will be doing it.
And yes, you have to be registered on the forum to see the Ventrillo section and IP. It's hidden to guests.I removed everything else in this post because I didn't see the part where it excludes the breaking of major cg rulesThat was referring to how the rule specifies the rules we can record for breaking, and then other "major" rules. Major is bound to be interpreted differently by different people, and this is essentially saying you cannot report vent conversations for the breaking of rules deemed minor by the administration. While rules have different punishment standards, I do not agree that that only some should be upheld before others. Players should be allowed to record conversations to use in the reporting of all rules that are broken, in my opinion.
At this point I'm simply discontent in the fact that the "major" specification is a gray-area, making it more difficult for users to know when they can and cannot record, as well as how it seems to take priority over other rules. It's a rule telling us we can only take measures to report the breakage of certain other rules. By the nature of ventrillo, there is literally no other way to efficiently collect evidence of a broken rule than to record it.
In addition, I disagree with telling people...It's not up for discussion.When a rule comes up without visible prior discussion, of course players are going to inquire of it. While I realize you/Wholegrain/Cadaver do not want to budge on the rule, which I respect, the community should still be allowed to discuss the grounds of the rule as well as clarifications. You do not personally have to take part in the discussion, if you'd prefer not to. However, if you'd literally like to cease the discussion, then this will be my final post on this thread.
This rule is full of fail.
I'd explain why but it wouldn't change it, thus I'll leave it at my first statement.
It's just misinterpreted and I can't go into detail about certain things without breaking the whole idea of it.