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« on: July 18, 2012, 01:35:39 AM »
Mystery may be a lot of things like a dirty Canadian but I trust his judgement on admin related stuff so please get proof.
Enough Nationalism. Stop ripping on Canada and stay on topic. If you don't have any thing relevant to say don't reply to the topic.
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« on: July 16, 2012, 06:08:10 PM »
yeah literally everyone on the server said he was speed hacking and flying all over the place. Server got DDOSED after he left or something. Perma Banned. Someone told me about it in the shoutbox so I got on it. Good work TTT players 
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« on: July 16, 2012, 12:36:01 AM »
honestly everything I think that needed a compromise on this issue has been met
punishment = vent perma ban not cg wide
ok to record those breaking major rule
my main two counter points have been met
see that wasn't that hard haha
anyways I have no purpose in this thread now that it has been established so im outtie
or can I request a lockie for this?
Fare enough. Breaking rule 7 Results in a Ventrilo Perma. Not a cg wide perma ban. If you don't like this start a new thread about it. Most people seem to now be satisfied. Thank god. I'd like to thank the academy,.... 
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« on: July 15, 2012, 11:42:19 PM »
When people go to type things, especially on the forums, they kind of plan out what they want to say and edit it or re-read it for modification. When people are talking over mics, especially in ventrillo, sometimes things just come out of their mouths. That's how it goes in real life. People may not mean to say things they say. Thus, someone recording it could really piss them off.
So I agree with the rule. I agree with the vent permaban. The C-Wide ban.. Eh, I trust that you, Inject, have good reasoning for this. I trust you do, but C-Wide bans are just so.. Idk.
Even though I don't visit vent much I don't want to be recorded unless it's for a convention
Yes, you are correct CG Wide Perma ban was probably to far. However depending on the situation I could see some harsh punishments. But as far as cg wide perma bans no. If people don't record what goes on in vent, they can still verbally explain what was said. That is why I think this rule is retarded, it helps, but people who really want to record can do so secretly. You won't find out if they're careful, and if you don't want people to find out you're being a dick, maybe don't say anything at all; make it private or say it over steam. Either way people will probably find out one way or another; I have heard so much about me from other people, people that hardly know me and others that do, but regardless it's annoying as shit; but I really don't care. People have their opinions of me and I have my own of them; but I'm just curious as to when any of that behavior deserves punishment, or if it ever does at all.
Vent rules-
1. Don't be an asshole.
2. No personal attacks. If you want to say something about someone, please say it elsewhere. We've had too many sissy fits with people talking behind each others backs.
So if people are breaking these rules, can we record them; or only if their breaking certain rules?
Oh lord, How do I start. The rule is retarded, because people can break it. That makes sense...wait a god damn giggity second... That make scene at all. Huh Strange. Because someone can abuse or break the rule doesn't mean it shouldn't be the rule. If it stops just one incident then it's been helpful. And just as easy as recording get out so does the person who recorded them. Generally most of CG Vent Rules are more of guide lines, and don't result in as harsh of punishments if they were enforced in the first place. Also being an asshole is probably a poor rule since an ass hole is just an opinion. You can't prove that something is assholeish. As far as personal attacks go. The point of that is not not personally attack a person to their face although I'm not saying you should attack them at all, it's still a place to vent and let out steam. Also many people confuse anger or dislike of someone as a personal attack when it isn't.
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« on: July 15, 2012, 10:16:12 PM »
Actually, I did read your post. Wholegrain was pointing out how you claimed to know what this community was formed on when you weren't around when the community was created. Then you made a comment saying that CG wasn't created for drama purposes, so I clarified while making a criticism of your choice to use bold fonts and capital letters. Then you tell people to shut the fuck up and start going around and cursing. Don't chastise me for being snarky and rude if you're going to do the same.
Also, if you knew what he meant there was no need to make a comment about CG being made for the purpose of drama. It doesn't convey your understanding of wholegrain's statements.
*sigh* you obviously have no idea what I'm talking about or you'd stop going on about shit I already explained. I know I wasn't here when SKG existed etc etc. And I don't give two fucks. CG was born 2009. I Joined in 2010. No more then 10 months later. and he didn't know what I meant because he didn't read, and obviously nither did you. Skimming isn't reading. Regadless enough of this. Post anything else about this stupid debate on who screamed what and I'll delete the post and give you a break from the forums. I don't care. Make your post relevant only to the rule and don't even think about throwing in a little " blah blah thats my opinion whats yours fussy... *cough*" Type troll. ON TOPIC OR LEAVE THE THREAD. DO not reply to this thread.
ON TOPIC NOW
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« on: July 15, 2012, 09:33:11 PM »
I am sure every old member that was here when CG started can back me up on that and can remember SKG and Sacmo.
Damn straight, yo.
Also, Inject, Whole isn't saying that CG was created for drama, stop exaggerating. That's obviously not what he was saying. Anyway, Whole was talking about how CG was based upon the idea of having a community-run community, unlike SKG where all major decisions were made by Sacmo, which led to the death of SKG, and helped make CG what it is today by not following his example. That "for the people, by the people" type shit. By including the community on decisions, most people stay content with how things and going and everyone stays happy and friends. When just a few people make all the decisions, people get mad and leave and form their own communities.
Wow rude much? I have to type in bold large font because people don't read. If whole had read what I said and you as well you'd know his sentence didn't make scene their. I KNOW WHAT HE MEANS. But it didn't fit their since I had already said about that. So you know what unless anyone has anything useful to contribute to this thread shit the fuck up and don't post if you don't. I don't appreciate the snide and disrespectful tone of treating me like a child. So if you want BIG BOLD FONTS keep posting like a disrespectful individual and I'll show you bold final fonts...
1267
« on: July 15, 2012, 08:31:56 PM »
I get to use this quite a lot nowadays..
Stop posting these.
But without darkemo who else will hold the posting of these magnificent beast?
1268
« on: July 15, 2012, 08:25:18 PM »
real shit
is anyone even for this rule & punishment sentence besides Cadaver and Inject?
we never had any drama from recordings in the past (my personal past of 5 years of running gaming communities, I never had one incident of any drama that came from recording in vent), the sources of drama in this community originate from other sources when they do occur.
I think we should have a vote and include the members as this is a public relations part of CG (drama and our social upstanding would fall into the category of pr relations although correct me if I am wrong)
CG was started to include the community on things like these
I am sure every old member that was here when CG started can back me up on that and can remember SKG and Sacmo.
also White this rule was made without me even knowing so please don't lump me in when I had no part in this XD (i am on vacation and was unable to be here for a few days) and I am against parts of it and for parts of it but overall I am displeased with this rule and its current standing.
And when people are away things are handled without them sometimes.
Drama did start from this and I'll talk to you about it later but this rule has purpose and is here for a reason. It's nothing major I've even adjusted it so that it does not result in a CG wide perma ban. But if your going to record in vent and cause drama your never joining that ventrilo again.
If you never meant anyone that had been murdered would you think murder should be legal? No Obviously not. And drama did occur their.
And NO I don't think we should start a vote. As I said it can be modified but not removed. I'm not having another incident like that happening in ventrilo again. I'm sorry thats final.
CG was started to include the community on things like these No it wasn't WTF
If the recording is not in negative light maybe. But the premis of this rule isn't because John made some funny vent videos. Those are fine like I said. Obviously you've refrained your self form actually reading anything in this thread.
your going to tell me why CG started? you weren't even here back in those days.
also the insults don't really help your case and actually can CAUSE drama which is what this entire rule is centered around.
Insults? Wholegrian seriously now your legitimately pissing me off.
DON'T FUCKING REPLY TO MY GOD DAMN POST IF YOUR NOT EVEN GOING TO READ IT. Because if you read it you'd know that your reply didn't make an ounce of sense. If you think CG started for drama entertainment purposes I'm out and leaving CG.
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« on: July 15, 2012, 07:50:08 PM »
real shit
is anyone even for this rule & punishment sentence besides Cadaver and Inject?
we never had any drama from recordings in the past (my personal past of 5 years of running gaming communities, I never had one incident of any drama that came from recording in vent), the sources of drama in this community originate from other sources when they do occur.
I think we should have a vote and include the members as this is a public relations part of CG (drama and our social upstanding would fall into the category of pr relations although correct me if I am wrong)
CG was started to include the community on things like these
I am sure every old member that was here when CG started can back me up on that and can remember SKG and Sacmo.
also White this rule was made without me even knowing so please don't lump me in when I had no part in this XD (i am on vacation and was unable to be here for a few days) and I am against parts of it and for parts of it but overall I am displeased with this rule and its current standing.
And when people are away things are handled without them sometimes. Drama did start from this and I'll talk to you about it later but this rule has purpose and is here for a reason. It's nothing major I've even adjusted it so that it does not result in a CG wide perma ban. But if your going to record in vent and cause drama your never joining that ventrilo again. If you never meant anyone that had been murdered would you think murder should be legal? No Obviously not. And drama did occur their. And NO I don't think we should start a vote. As I said it can be modified but not removed. I'm not having another incident like that happening in ventrilo again. I'm sorry thats final. CG was started to include the community on things like these No it wasn't WTF If the recording is not in negative light maybe. But the premis of this rule isn't because John made some funny vent videos. Those are fine like I said. Obviously you've refrained your self form actually reading anything in this thread.
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« on: July 15, 2012, 05:40:01 PM »
Welcome, Hope you like the epic sauce community 
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« on: July 15, 2012, 05:39:39 PM »
Welcome in!
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« on: July 15, 2012, 05:39:30 PM »
Welcome to CG. Enjoy your stay
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« on: July 15, 2012, 05:34:52 PM »
I agree with whole. The punishment is too harsh unless its malicious but who really records vent anyway, it seems like it would be boring because half the time its just us in game or just making jokes that we have said a million times over.
I do like that the rule is added however, its better to err on the side of caution and make things clear instead of this being some kind of unwritten rule. If things are black and white I see no problems.
The punishment was modified and is not to harsh. Problem is you can't word it to say IF WITH MALICIOUS intent because the people doing it don't believe their being malicious. It's to warn them to screw off from doing it. Obviously no ones going to make a massive fuss out of if John came in and recorded some stuff for humour however with the rule in place it would be nice if he still informed everyone hes recording which if i recall he usually does. I'm not trolling anybody here, Inject.
And yes, you have to be registered on the forum to see the Ventrillo section and IP. It's hidden to guests.
I removed everything else in this post because I didn't see the part where it excludes the breaking of major cg rules
That was referring to how the rule specifies the rules we can record for breaking, and then other "major" rules. Major is bound to be interpreted differently by different people, and this is essentially saying you cannot report vent conversations for the breaking of rules deemed minor by the administration. While rules have different punishment standards, I do not agree that that only some should be upheld before others. Players should be allowed to record conversations to use in the reporting of all rules that are broken, in my opinion.
At this point I'm simply discontent in the fact that the "major" specification is a gray-area, making it more difficult for users to know when they can and cannot record, as well as how it seems to take priority over other rules. It's a rule telling us we can only take measures to report the breakage of certain other rules. By the nature of ventrillo, there is literally no other way to efficiently collect evidence of a broken rule than to record it.
In addition, I disagree with telling people...
It's not up for discussion.
When a rule comes up without visible prior discussion, of course players are going to inquire of it. While I realize you/Wholegrain/Cadaver do not want to budge on the rule, which I respect, the community should still be allowed to discuss the grounds of the rule as well as clarifications. You do not personally have to take part in the discussion, if you'd prefer not to. However, if you'd literally like to cease the discussion, then this will be my final post on this thread.
I understand how major is a grey area. Which is why unless you here blatant Racism or similar you should just refrain from doing so without telling a CL that you will be doing it. And I mean if theirs 10 of you in a channel and 1 guys being a dbag if you just privately tell a few of the others in the channel your going to record the guy I'm sure they wont care. But if people are having a conversation and you jump in your channel all silent and not talking so you can secretly record them then no fuck off. That will only cause drama. And as it's been said ventrilo is more chilled you not bound down as tightly as on the forums. Obviously the major rules still apply but for the most part use common scene. And yeah I know what you mean, perhaps that was a bit overkill to say I didn't mean it's not up for discussion kind of. The rule can be slightly modified but I'm just saying their is no way this rule will be completely removed under any circumstances. This rule is full of fail.
I'd explain why but it wouldn't change it, thus I'll leave it at my first statement.
Full of fail? Hardly. It's just misinterpreted and I can't go into detail about certain things without breaking the whole idea of it. The only thing full of fail is your comment not describing any issues with the rule. That sir, is full of fail.
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« on: July 15, 2012, 01:29:27 PM »
TF2 or Gaming servers are not DEDICATED Voice Communication Chat Platforms and are designed for videos are we have a youtube channel revolving around that. Our gaming servers are completely public. Our ventrilo is open to only CG members even though none cg members occasionally skip inside as well on the rare occasion.
We permote gaming videos as we are a GAMING community. And although you probably could even tell someone in TF2 that their going to be in a CG Video it's not as big a deal if you don't
If however you join ventrilo and want to case a hell hold of drama you can just go fuck right off because I'll have none of it.
It's not up for discussion.
The rule can have slight adjustments but that's all. Obviously you don't understand the seriousness of this.
I don't think anyone is aware that our vent is CG only, I was not aware of that anyway. I don't understand how it is any more private then our game servers. It is on our front page, there is no password, anyone can join. What makes it CG only?
Also, the punishment is absurd. 'Major' is opinionated, it can be decided what is major and what is not by the CLs. If you record something you think is major, and the CL does not, they get to permaban you from everything. What is major and what is not needs to be defined.
Perhaps your the only one whos not aware of that. It's a 20 Slot vent. It was made CG members so they can talk much like the forum. We simply do not the the slot limit to allow more then CG members in it. If you think that ventrilo is exactly like a game server then I question why your even using a computer in the first place. Black you know damn well where this rule is coming from perhaps if it hadn't been started to begin with we wouldn't have this issue. Obviously you would think things that arn't major are. At the very least it would get you banned from ventrilo forever.
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« on: July 15, 2012, 04:45:56 AM »
Obviously you guys are being massive trolls or simply ingoreing the fact that your brain keeps saying NO DON'T POST THAT THAT'S STUPID. Because you posted it anyways.
TF2 or Gaming servers are not DEDICATED Voice Communication Chat Platforms and are designed for videos are we have a youtube channel revolving around that. Our gaming servers are completely public. Our ventrilo is open to only CG members even though none cg members occasionally skip inside as well on the rare occasion.
We permote gaming videos as we are a GAMING community. And although you probably could even tell someone in TF2 that their going to be in a CG Video it's not as big a deal if you don't
If however you join ventrilo and want to case a hell hold of drama you can just go fuck right off because I'll have none of it.
It's not up for discussion.
The rule can have slight adjustments but that's all. Obviously you don't understand the seriousness of this.
JOHN This has nothing to do with your videos and they are fine.
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