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Debate Forum / Re: Ghosts.
« on: May 23, 2011, 09:02:04 PM »
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Saying that ghosts exist(in or out of a fourth dimension) is a pretty extraordinary claim, and extraordinary evidence is needed. You're trying to make a claim that something lives in a fourth dimension. If you believe that there are beings that reside in the fourth dimension, why not believe that there are creatures that live in the second dimension as well? We would be able to perceive them, but we have found none.(That one Star Trek episode doesn't count. >_>)

As for your haunting argument, show me evidence of a well documented haunting. Some of the most famous examples, like the Amityville Horror, Borley Rectory, and the Bell Witch all have been shown to be false and stories created to sell books.

Also, the anecdote you used was used by Carl Sagan to explain the concept of dimensions.

As for Doombringer, I didn't take your post out of context. You said it was questionable, I said that it was unusable. Also, this is the debate forum, not the post your opinion and leave it at that forum. You also say that we have no way to prove that they don't exist, which is true of any creature or entity, but if they did exist we can prove it, however seeing as there is no evidence, it is much more logical to say that they don't exist.

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Debate Forum / Re: Ghosts.
« on: May 22, 2011, 06:38:50 PM »
First of all, there is no reason to believe that ghosts reside in the fourth dimension. Second, spacetime is governed by the laws of physics. The force of gravity has been proven to have an effect on spacetime. So therefore, if ghosts are hiding in the fourth dimension would have to preside by the laws of physics as we know them.

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The Art Forum / Re: CONJOINT GAMING RANKS I made in photoshop
« on: May 21, 2011, 10:01:33 PM »
They're nicely drawn, but they look more like avatars than something we'd use to denoted ranks. Plus there isn't much of a theme. A few have things in common, but there's no overarching theme.

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Debate Forum / Re: Ghosts.
« on: May 21, 2011, 09:52:21 PM »
Here is the problem we cant know if ghosts exsist or not, there is proof they exsist but the evidence is questionabe. AKA: Occult Tomes, Lore, Personal accounts and the recorded video evidence (Taps and stuff). You can't say they don't exsist because thats an opinion, if you still insist on saying they don't exsist then bring actual proof they do not exsist.

First off, you said it yourself, the "evidence" is questionable. If ghosts were such a common phenomenon, they would have been properly explained by now, or a legitimate theory of how they could exist, when being in direct violation of the laws of this universe, would have been formed.

Now for your proposed evidence of occult tomes and lore, neither are factual. If you believe that an occult book is proof for existence of ghosts, then logically, every other creature detailed in that book would exist, and obviously that is crazy. Lore is also not proof. Lore is traditional and anecdotal "knowledge.' Implying that stories written by people hundreds of years ago can be used to explain a phenomenon still experienced is not logical. That argument implies that someone that lived hundreds of years ago had a deeper understanding of science and nature than we have now, and that is a ridiculous stance to take.
Personal accounts, are obviously not legitimate evidence, either. Anyone can make up an story about how they heard a strange noise and just assume that it was a ghost, when a much more logical explanation exists.

Photo and video evidence cannot be trusted either, because of how simple it is to put ghostly images on film. There's this neat little trick called double exposure that puts ghostly images on film, and has been a very popular trick used by photographers to create ghosts in photos. This is the technique used to create most of the famous photographed ghosts.


Now, if you would listen to reason just for a moment, instead of living in your fantasy world, you would also see that the laws of physics dictates that ghosts are an impossibility. Common ghost stories say that ghosts can walk and move objects, while at the same time being able to go through solid objects. This violates Newton's second law of physics, that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. They exert forces onto objects, yet they can pass through others. They cannot go from a state of being able to effect the physical world and not having any effect.
Now, if you use the argument that they can create "ectoplasm"(a nonexsistant substance) to interact with their environment, that is violating another law of physics by creating matter from nothing.

Everything we know about nature and science is in direct conflict with proposed "knowledge" of ghosts.

Now that that's out of the way, care to tell me why you believe in ghosts, or perhaps show me some evidence of their existence that you might have?

Can't believe I wrote all that for a guy who will probably refuse to listen to logic and come up with a terrible, terrible counterargument as to why legitimate science is wrong and why his baseless claims are correct.

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Debate Forum / Re: Ghosts.
« on: May 20, 2011, 08:33:29 PM »
Okay, let's break it down.

There has also been a claim that ghosts dont exsist because they would need a body and cant have emotions,
First off, I have never before heard that claim. I have, however, heard claims that ghosts don't exist because it's a nonsensical idea, and that there has been no legitimate, thoroughly documented accounts of ghosts or hauntings ever happening.

The other thing, extoplasm is their blood\body It allows them to become visible and move objects.
Proof of ectoplasm's existence please. After you do some research, you will find that there is no such substance verified to exist.

Also, anecdotal stories are not proof and are backed up by no evidence. Saying that you have seen a ghost holds as much weight as me saying that the batboy and mothman just flew into my home through an open window, said hello to me, made out, and then walked out the front door. Seriously, it just happened. I have an audio recording right here. PROVE TO ME THIS RECORDING ISN'T THE MOTHMAN AND BATBOY.

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Debate Forum / Re: is this statement true?
« on: May 19, 2011, 02:24:03 PM »
That same logic can be applied to anything else, but how the statement should be phrased is, "All horses of this set are the same color."

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General Gaming Talk / Re: Games you're looking forw- DO WANT NOW
« on: May 17, 2011, 12:40:37 AM »
Skyrim, Duke Nukem(LESS THAN A MONTH AWAY, AWW YEAAAH), Beyond Good & Evil 2, Mass Effect 3, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, and Half Life 2: Episode 3(AKA the new Duke Nukem Forever)

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Debate Forum / Re: Economy Style: Currency vs Barter System
« on: May 15, 2011, 06:12:50 PM »
LET ME PUT THIS IN TERMS YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND.

with u, i dont have to pretend lolololol  trollface trollface trollface trollface

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Debate Forum / Re: Economy Style: Currency vs Barter System
« on: May 15, 2011, 05:49:55 PM »
San, did you even read the thread before walking in here and stating the obvious?

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Debate Forum / Re: What do you guys think about this? Cancer Cure?
« on: May 15, 2011, 02:44:54 PM »
Theres ur answer.
Can I see your medical degree, please?

It's also possible that this cure is still being further researched and may have yet to enter, or is still, in clinical trials, not being held back by BIG EVIL CORPORATIONS.


Also, http://abcnews.go.com/Health/CancerPreventionAndTreatment/story?id=2848454&page=1

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Debate Forum / Re: What do you guys think about this? Cancer Cure?
« on: May 15, 2011, 01:54:36 AM »
Saw this on The Escapist I'm guessing?

Also, HubPages is not a legitimate science or medical journal, so I'd take what's on there with a pinch of salt.

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Debate Forum / Re: Ghosts.
« on: May 14, 2011, 04:41:44 PM »
Nope. Implausible and no real proof besides personal anecdotes(which isn't real proof).

Also, Cadavar, you might like this:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tf-GzlzU7M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tf-GzlzU7M</a>

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You're his twin code, that's why he posted it. He wasn't saying you were ginger(or maybe he was, I don't know, but the resemblance is uncanny.)

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The Art Forum / Re: Your iPod/MP3 Player
« on: May 08, 2011, 12:14:18 AM »
Woods Of Ypres
Mirrorthrone
R.A. The Rugged Man
Diabolic
Kool G Rap
Turisas
Velvet Underground
Devin Townsend
Cynic
Candlemass
Borknagar
Agalloch
Korpiklaani
King Diamond
La Rumeur des Chaines
Alcest
Opeth
Peordh
Sabac Red
Diabolical Masquerade

So on and so forth

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SO WAIT.
Does this mean that Emo has lady frames?

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