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CG Main => Debate Forum => Topic started by: FearlessThor on July 10, 2010, 06:04:28 PM
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and please dont say oil the united states receives almost all their oil from Canada and Mexico so why would we need Iraq and there was a lot of other problems between the US and Iraq.
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uhm oil? where the fuck else for?
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why do you think that?
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becouse there is nothing else there what usa wants. they are talking about revenge of the twin towers but that was the final reason to invade iraq for their oil, else they had no reason and they cant invade a land without a reason else the whole world would go crazy to the U.S.A so its all about cash thats why there are LOADS of ppl there wasting their lives
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umm ya they said Iraq had WMD's so we attacked but that was fake but how do you know we didnt want to kick Saddam out when we supplied him with weapons during the Iraq-Iran war and he became a threat to the U.S.
And i guess the 35 nations that went in with us were after oil too
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thats becouse the us requested help from other lands and becouse other lands are helpfull (mostly) they help
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All I know is there was a lot less death and suffering with Hussein in power. It should've stayed that way if this was the only other option.
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Are you fucking serious ya a lot of people lived???? ya man fyi he GASSED his people
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it was... but there is a story to why we attacked them and it was are fault we gave them weapons to fight Iran and look what happened it came back at us.
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Are you fucking serious ya a lot of people lived???? ya man fyi he GASSED his people
Do you have any idea what's been going on in Iraq since Operation Iraqi Freedom? No government (de-Baathification was one of the dumbest moves that could possibly have made); none of the benefits that go hand in hand with an existent government (passable infrastructure, social stability, a functional economy, law and order, etc.); something like 150 insurgent attacks per day (in 2007); warlords and small-time criminals running around doing whatever the hell they please; inflammation of already present anti-Western sentiments . . . Hussein was the face of evil, I agree, and the raw casualty count might be in decline, but as far as I'm concerned going from ruthless autocracy to something very close to a violent state of anarchy is not by any means an improvement. And none of this takes into account the political and economic toll on Iraq, the US, and however many other countries.
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Technically there was no declaration of war. It was Executive action.
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well that is true but we should at least help them set up a stable government. so all those soldiers didnt die for nothing
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We have been trying, in our pathetic blundering way.
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and he gassed the kurds........... Oh yeah we get our oil from canada which actually comes from europe......... take a look at the ships coming into canada near nova scotia they sure as fuck ain't maple leafs on them.
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Simple. To quote Dubya on the capture of Saddam," They caught him! They caught the one who tried to kill my daddy!"
(Yes, a very close approximation to what Dubya said. Makes me wonder if Dubya used the Military for a personal family vendetta... Stems from an earlier botched assassination attempt on Bush Sr., when he visited Kuwait after the end of his (Sr.'s) Presidency.)
Many think it was due to the tying of the U.S. Dollar to oil values. Iraq, in the months before the decision to attack came down, decided to trade oil for European Euro's... The view is, this allowing to trade oil in other currencies would have critically devalued the U.S. Dollar, and effectively destroyed our economy...
Personally, I wonder why we are still in Afghanistan, since there are less than 100 or so Al Qaeda left in the whole country. There are far more of them in Pakistan, and Yemen. So, we going to invade those nations, too?
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I dont know but in case you haven't realized. We aren't fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan because our nation wants to, we are fighting because the major corporations want us to. The government caters to major corporations, not to us.
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Remscar you must be a fan of Micheal Moore. Amirite?
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Simple. To quote Dubya on the capture of Saddam," They caught him! They caught the one who tried to kill my daddy!"
(Yes, a very close approximation to what Dubya said. Makes me wonder if Dubya used the Military for a personal family vendetta... Stems from an earlier botched assassination attempt on Bush Sr., when he visited Kuwait after the end of his (Sr.'s) Presidency.)
Many think it was due to the tying of the U.S. Dollar to oil values. Iraq, in the months before the decision to attack came down, decided to trade oil for European Euro's... The view is, this allowing to trade oil in other currencies would have critically devalued the U.S. Dollar, and effectively destroyed our economy...
Personally, I wonder why we are still in Afghanistan, since there are less than 100 or so Al Qaeda left in the whole country. There are far more of them in Pakistan, and Yemen. So, we going to invade those nations, too?
ya i heard about U.S dollar going down. and the Taliban are in Afghanistan thats who where fighting over there and maybe some Al Qaeda but not many.
Remscar you must be a fan of Micheal Moore. Amirite?
i watch Micheal moores films and he makes me very pissed off but he has some i said some good point but not many haha he's like a fat troll
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Yahtzee I find you ignorance disturbing, get your facts straight before blaming a group, 1. Al-Queda was responsible for 9/11 NOT the Taliban, so either you be trollin or your another ignorant stereotypical American "Bomb the middle east, fuck those Islamic *****" etc etc
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umm the taliban attacked us. Iraq is a different story there is a lot of ideas on why we are over there
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Care to prove they did?
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are you asking me to prove that the taliban attacked us. when you said it yourself also
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I think you should read what I said again " Al-Queda was responsible for 9/11 NOT the Taliban" no it wasn't a not joke..so I ask you again, provide me with evidence that the Taliban attacked the US?
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ok if that even made the slightest sense at all ever
Osama Bin Laden On 9/11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU#)
"Allah knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed – when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet. As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way (and) to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women."
– Osama bin Laden
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OK. To Clarify. Al Qaeda (spelling?) attacked the U.S. on 9/11... The Taliban did not. The Taliban got the target on their back for supporting the Al Q openly by giving them safe haven in Afghanistan.
So, the US, went into Afghanistan to hunt down the Al Q, and removed the Taliban from power... Except the Taliban did not go away, and Al Q went to other areas (Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, etc.) where they could set back up and operate again... And there we are, what 9 years later, in Afghanistan, and the original target (Al Qaeda) have moved on, years ago.
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o shit i feel hella dumb tight now your right
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I thought it had become more about containing the Taliban and not letting the crazies screw up Pakistan.
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WHo is Michael Moore?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Moore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Moore)
ya i no wiki but ya
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Thanks for helping clear things up Cadaver :)
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WHo is Michael Moore?
An imbecile who rambles all day along about the evils inherent in a Capitalistic Society.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/tommy_john19/moore.jpg)
A waste of time.
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uhm i wonder Why start this post if you are against the people who say they invaded for no reason
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I support the troops. i support the Afghanistan war but Iraq i dont know
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Im slightly glad we invaded those countries because its preventing insurgents and others groups from attacking us again and hopefully we dissrupted its progress enough so it wont be for a while before the next attack.