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CG Gaming Section => General Gaming Talk => Topic started by: Pillz on January 10, 2013, 08:38:32 PM
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/385376/valves-steam-box-early-specs-and-what-we-know-so-far/
From what I hear it will be able to output video onto EIGHT TV's if you wanted, so you could have a separate monitor and controller for each player that wants to play; and the game won't be too stressed out.
It will have 1TB of space for you, between 4 and 8 gigabytes of DDR3 RAM, a quad-core 64-bit x86-based 32nm processor running at up to 3.2GHz (with 4MB of Level2 Cache), an integrated graphics card containing up to 384 programmable cores and then of course you have the four USB2.0 ports and so on. Apparently the motherboard will be virtually available along with other things I'm sure that help save space on the system.
Gabe even talked about desires to incorporate Gazetracking technology and other "futuretech" into the Piston, oh and the pistons colors will be fully customizable.
Systems with similar technology run about 1000$-1500$ but I really don't think Steam will sell this for more than 600$ or they know they'll have a relatively small market.
There's also word that Steam's working on a portable device called "LittleFoot".
The Steambox should be out by the end of this year for public purchase.
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People forget things and go crazy when they see OMG QUAD CORE #12381312 GB OF RAM BETTER THEN ANY PC EVER LAOLAOL!
No... Simply put the ram put into devices and consoles is usually not as of high quality as the ram you can for a PC. Yes, PC's use DDR3 same as this but DDR3 isn't all that makes ram ram. They have different CAS latency's, some are duel or triple channel, some are ECC certified, etc.
Example:
Technical Information
CAS Latency: CL9
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Memory Size: 8 GB
Memory Speed: 1866 MHz
Memory Standard: DDR3-1866/PC3-14900
Memory Technology: DDR3 SDRAM
Number of Modules: 2 x 4 GB
Plating: Gold Plated
Signal Processing: Unbuffered
All those things the ram says under it in the product description, they actually matter. As well as the CPU having important factors to it as well.
But on the other end, things that make it slightly cheaper are the fact it's mass produced. As all the steam box's would be outfitted with identical hardware.
Point is for me, until it's closer to release and more details start to shine out, I'll have the same opinion I always have on it, which is the standard why?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KendHbID2gA
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwFWPk4lOz4
1:17 for Steambox info
People forget things and go crazy when they see OMG QUAD CORE
Not really. The ram's going to be customizable and better than current consoles bullshit, and better than most computers out there but I don't think anyone's freaking about like how you exaggerated. If they are it's because this thing is better than any console, and the fact that it can play on 8+ screens at once on a single game is amazing.
Here's XBOX360 RAM basics;
512 MB of GDDR3 RAM
700 MHz of DDR
PS3:
Memory:
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
SteamBox:
4 and 8 gigabytes of DDR3 RAM
Sounds pretty good to me, but I'm sure there are people out there who also care about the super-specifics of the RAM; which we'll find out later.
The Steam Box will have up to 1 TB of storage with a modular motherboard that will give us the option to upgrade the CPU and RAM. It's also said to feature one Ethernet port, optical audio ports, two display ports, one HDMI port, four USB 2.0 ports, four USB 3.0 ports and four eSATAp ports.
Sadly I don't think the GPU will be upgradable but if it can support 4000k TV's and 8 HD monitors at once so who needs more GPU.
Why? This is their console, what many people have been wanting and asking for. This way people can socially play together in their houses with one another, on a giant TV if they want. Maybe they don't feel like dropping 700-1500$ on a computer and just want to play games on a console. Now, instead of picking between WiiU, PS3 and Xbox; you can choose the Piston and get a lot more visually than you can get anywhere else.
The specs aren't final, but this is the first actual information people have seen/heard from CES; and if it's not the specs you see here, they'll probably be even better as those are guestimations based on the Xi3's X7A model PC's specs as that's what the Piston is based off of. That's the system that runs for a grand or more, etc. Minicomputer bullshit n stuff.
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I want some ram ram. Can I have some?
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We still don't know the specs on the individual components. And I wasn't saying it isn't better then any the console. Of course it'd be the best console, thats a no brainer.
But their is people who say LOL CONSOLES ARE NOW BETTER THEN PCS, STEAM BOX EATS EVERY PC EVER FOR BREAKFAST. And i'm here to tell you no... that's false. That's all.
I doubt the ram will be max quality ram, good ram sure, but not super uber overclocked ram.
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We still don't know the specs on the individual components. And I wasn't saying it isn't better then any the console. Of course it'd be the best console, thats a no brainer.
But their is people who say LOL CONSOLES ARE NOW BETTER THEN PCS, STEAM BOX EATS EVERY PC EVER FOR BREAKFAST. And i'm here to tell you no... that's false. That's all.
I doubt the ram will be max quality ram, good ram sure, but not super uber overclocked ram.
Imo consoles are becoming computers, they basically are simple PC's for games. The steambox is based on a minicomputer so ideally it is a computer; but people still think consoles are something completely different.. But customizable ram and mobo specs is a great idea; and I think this is going to make Steam A LOT of money, more for Gabe to swim in.
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We still don't know the specs on the individual components. And I wasn't saying it isn't better then any the console. Of course it'd be the best console, thats a no brainer.
But their is people who say LOL CONSOLES ARE NOW BETTER THEN PCS, STEAM BOX EATS EVERY PC EVER FOR BREAKFAST. And i'm here to tell you no... that's false. That's all.
I doubt the ram will be max quality ram, good ram sure, but not super uber overclocked ram.
Imo consoles are becoming computers, they basically are simple PC's for games. The steambox is based on a minicomputer so ideally it is a computer; but people still think consoles are something completely different.. But customizable ram and mobo specs is a great idea; and I think this is going to make Steam A LOT of money, more for Gabe to swim in.
Their not becomeing computers. They were always computers, I never denied that. Their RESTRICTED computers though. Why would I want to use a PC with limited accuses when I have one with unlimited access?
Restrictions are for making you behave (no stealing), and making it simplistic for thoes who want a smoothie for a brain.
I still am not in giant OOHM for this. I see it's advantages however, and await it's arrival.
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We still don't know the specs on the individual components. And I wasn't saying it isn't better then any the console. Of course it'd be the best console, thats a no brainer.
But their is people who say LOL CONSOLES ARE NOW BETTER THEN PCS, STEAM BOX EATS EVERY PC EVER FOR BREAKFAST. And i'm here to tell you no... that's false. That's all.
I doubt the ram will be max quality ram, good ram sure, but not super uber overclocked ram.
Imo consoles are becoming computers, they basically are simple PC's for games. The steambox is based on a minicomputer so ideally it is a computer; but people still think consoles are something completely different.. But customizable ram and mobo specs is a great idea; and I think this is going to make Steam A LOT of money, more for Gabe to swim in.
Their not becomeing computers. They were always computers, I never denied that. Their RESTRICTED computers though. Why would I want to use a PC with limited accuses when I have one with unlimited access?
Restrictions are for making you behave (no stealing), and making it simplistic for thoes who want a smoothie for a brain.
I still am not in giant OOHM for this. I see it's advantages however, and await it's arrival.
Yes I think everyone would rather have a customizable PC, but at the same time I feel the need to have at least one console of some type for social reasons. I can play computer games all day but unless my friends or girlfriend has a gaming computer also they can't really play with me. So if we have multiplayer on Piston, I wonder if everyone will login with a steam username or not.. Hopefully it supports split screen but the idea of getting extra monitors hooked up for everyone else playing to use is awesome. It's like a mobile LAN Party, if you have the money and controllers/TV's/cords. I doubt I'll be able to afford it unless they really stay under $500 anyway..
"Today marks the beginning of a new era for Xi3," says Xi3 CEO Jason A. Sullivan. "This new development-stage product will allow users to take full-advantage of their large high-definition TV displays for an amazing computer game experience. As a result, this new system could provide access to thousands of gaming titles through an integrated system that exceeds the capabilities of leading game consoles, but can fit in the palm of your hand."
Gabe Newell has made it clear that it is just one of a number of prospective models, and there's a chance that Xi3's model may never actually come to market at all in its current form.
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Well I could probably hook up xbox controllers to my pc hock it up to my pc and call it a console and invite friends over too.
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Its more a case of more people have gaming consoles, than gaming PCs. I have an xbox so I can play with my friends on xbox live who dont have steam. Plus there are some rather good console exclusive games. I love PC gaming and have always been primarily a PC gamer, but consoles have their place, they are much more accessible for non-techie people and more of my friends have consoles than gaming PCs (everyone has a PC but not good enough to play new games well)
i like the idea of Piston cause that way i can choose whether I want to play steam games at my desk on my PC with my 32" HD monitor, or on the couch on the steam console with my 32" HDTV ;D
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Its more a case of more people have gaming consoles, than gaming PCs. I have an xbox so I can play with my friends on xbox live who dont have steam. Plus there are some rather good console exclusive games. I love PC gaming and have always been primarily a PC gamer, but consoles have their place, they are much more accessible for non-techie people and more of my friends have consoles than gaming PCs (everyone has a PC but not good enough to play new games well)
i like the idea of Piston cause that way i can choose whether I want to play steam games at my desk on my PC with my 32" HD monitor, or on the couch on the steam console with my 32" HDTV ;D
That's misleading, since all consoles are by definition "Gaming Consoles" who has any "non gaming consoles"
So I'm not so sure that's true.
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Its more a case of more people have gaming consoles, than gaming PCs. I have an xbox so I can play with my friends on xbox live who dont have steam. Plus there are some rather good console exclusive games. I love PC gaming and have always been primarily a PC gamer, but consoles have their place, they are much more accessible for non-techie people and more of my friends have consoles than gaming PCs (everyone has a PC but not good enough to play new games well)
i like the idea of Piston cause that way i can choose whether I want to play steam games at my desk on my PC with my 32" HD monitor, or on the couch on the steam console with my 32" HDTV ;D
That's misleading, since all consoles are by definition "Gaming Consoles" who has any "non gaming consoles"
So I'm not so sure that's true.
People have media centers and stuff, so those could be considered consoles I guess.
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Gaze Tracking. That seems the most "shiny" thing to me out of all of that.
also, what's er.. RAM.
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Inject is the most anti-console person I have ever encountered. Jesus christ, were you molested by a Nintendo when you were a child or something? HATERS GONNA HATE parrot
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Its more a case of more people have gaming consoles, than gaming PCs. I have an xbox so I can play with my friends on xbox live who dont have steam. Plus there are some rather good console exclusive games. I love PC gaming and have always been primarily a PC gamer, but consoles have their place, they are much more accessible for non-techie people and more of my friends have consoles than gaming PCs (everyone has a PC but not good enough to play new games well)
i like the idea of Piston cause that way i can choose whether I want to play steam games at my desk on my PC with my 32" HD monitor, or on the couch on the steam console with my 32" HDTV ;D
That's misleading, since all consoles are by definition "Gaming Consoles" who has any "non gaming consoles"
So I'm not so sure that's true.
The center console in my car is strictly non-gaming
Also Death: RAM is Random-access memory I believe, as opposed to your HDD and other storage devices which store data in a predetermined order while RAM can be accessed in any random order when info is needed. This is important for any complicated task a computer performs such as playing games. Ps3's and other consoles hardly use half a GB of RAM b/c it's all they need. Steambox gets' 8-16x more RAM because it's awesome and will need more.
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^This.
The word "console" means many things. The phrase "gaming console" refers to specifically what we are talking about.
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^This.
The word "console" means many things. The phrase "gaming console" refers to specifically what we are talking about.
Words update as time passes, when we are referring to Xbox as a console, it's understood.
Lets not be smart asses here.
Fact is their are more PC's then Gaming Consoles.
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Yes, but there are not more GAMING pc's than gaming consoles =P In general more people game on consoles than they do on PC's these days. Maybe its different in Canada?
There are actually more Xbox 360's out there than there are users on Steam.
I mean there are no concrete numbers to back up this sorta thing so not exactly fact, but you gotta ask yourself out of all the people you know IRL, how many play on console vs. PC?
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Yes, but there are not more GAMING pc's than gaming consoles =P In general more people game on consoles than they do on PC's these days. Maybe its different in Canada?
There are actually more Xbox 360's out there than there are users on Steam.
I mean there are no concrete numbers to back up this sorta thing so not exactly fact, but you gotta ask yourself out of all the people you know IRL, how many play on console vs. PC?
You can't compare it that way. That's very unfair. You don't need a gaming grade PC to game. You can game casually on a nongaming computer.
And considering Consoles are acceptable for only casual gaming, I don't see how you can make that comparison.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/steam-crosses-40-million-users-6348281
40 Million, which is the same number of XboxLive users.
So no wrong again. Their actually very closely equal in the number of users. Also not every gamer uses steam. So no. More people most defiantly do not game on consoles vs pcs. PC's are still the most gamed platform. People who play PC games just tend to not be as "loud" so to speak in that we don't hear about it as much since Consoles are more of a social experience.
So, their actually is things to back that up ;)
Either way I'm not having a god damn PC vs Console Debate,
So while staying back on topic I only have to say, I await the arrival of Piston but I'm not about to get excited as I do not have enough current information to go on as to weather I'd like the idea.
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Ok, I'll drop it but you always bring it up Broseph. I'm waiting on price and release date, if its reasonable I will get one.
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I bet 50$ they'll put a MH game on this thing.
From what I gather of "why?" is that Gabe thinks that Windows 8 and something else about pentium's new series will be GG for pc gaming (the latter being GG for PCs themselves). I don't remember exactly what those articles said.
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I bet 50$ they'll put a MH game on this thing.
From what I gather of "why?" is that Gabe thinks that Windows 8 and something else about pentium's new series will be GG for pc gaming (the latter being GG for PCs themselves). I don't remember exactly what those articles said.
Pentiums? The next gen core series code named "Haswell" are predicted to drop kick the shit out of the latest Ivy Bridge processors. It will be a refinement oft he current platform and a die shrink which will hopefully cool those hot motherfuckers off.
PC gaming isn't going anywhere. With out the base of PC to fuel the need for stronger faster better we would all be rolling Wii's -_-
-Wooley
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I don't think Gabe would assume windows 8 and an upgrade in processing would kill PC gaming. This isn't even a console it's a mini-PC for morons who can't just assemble a PC for themselves, and it'll probably be a cheaper, faster easier solution to getting something they can play PC games on. Even I might sacrifice some money to check one of these things out if their cheap enough and have more HDD space than my current computer.. lol
It's brilliant and it's going to be a success, and people are going to compare it to Xbox360 and PS3 like twats I'm sure. I was hoping Steam and Sony would just partner up and make the PS4 a Steam platform but that'd be too weird for the two businesses I suppose.
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I don't think Gabe would assume windows 8 and an upgrade in processing would kill PC gaming. This isn't even a console it's a mini-PC for morons who can't just assemble a PC for themselves, and it'll probably be a cheaper, faster easier solution to getting something they can play PC games on. Even I might sacrifice some money to check one of these things out if their cheap enough and have more HDD space than my current computer.. lol
It's brilliant and it's going to be a success, and people are going to compare it to Xbox360 and PS3 like twats I'm sure. I was hoping Steam and Sony would just partner up and make the PS4 a Steam platform but that'd be too weird for the two businesses I suppose.
No, but he mentioned he hates Microsoft and their shitty OS. I can't blaim him.
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I don't think Gabe would assume windows 8 and an upgrade in processing would kill PC gaming. This isn't even a console it's a mini-PC for morons who can't just assemble a PC for themselves, and it'll probably be a cheaper, faster easier solution to getting something they can play PC games on. Even I might sacrifice some money to check one of these things out if their cheap enough and have more HDD space than my current computer.. lol
It's brilliant and it's going to be a success, and people are going to compare it to Xbox360 and PS3 like twats I'm sure. I was hoping Steam and Sony would just partner up and make the PS4 a Steam platform but that'd be too weird for the two businesses I suppose.
No, but he mentioned he hates Microsoft and their shitty OS. I can't blaim him.
Well fuck they have the money, they should just become a rival company to Microsoft and sell computers eventually. They could DOMINATE the PC gaming market as dictators at that point.
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I don't think Gabe would assume windows 8 and an upgrade in processing would kill PC gaming. This isn't even a console it's a mini-PC for morons who can't just assemble a PC for themselves, and it'll probably be a cheaper, faster easier solution to getting something they can play PC games on. Even I might sacrifice some money to check one of these things out if their cheap enough and have more HDD space than my current computer.. lol
It's brilliant and it's going to be a success, and people are going to compare it to Xbox360 and PS3 like twats I'm sure. I was hoping Steam and Sony would just partner up and make the PS4 a Steam platform but that'd be too weird for the two businesses I suppose.
No, but he mentioned he hates Microsoft and their shitty OS. I can't blaim him.
Well fuck they have the money, they should just become a rival company to Microsoft and sell computers eventually. They could DOMINATE the PC gaming market as dictators at that point.
Have you used steam? It's far from stable. If they wont to make an OS they need to make their shit stable first.
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I don't think Gabe would assume windows 8 and an upgrade in processing would kill PC gaming. This isn't even a console it's a mini-PC for morons who can't just assemble a PC for themselves, and it'll probably be a cheaper, faster easier solution to getting something they can play PC games on. Even I might sacrifice some money to check one of these things out if their cheap enough and have more HDD space than my current computer.. lol
It's brilliant and it's going to be a success, and people are going to compare it to Xbox360 and PS3 like twats I'm sure. I was hoping Steam and Sony would just partner up and make the PS4 a Steam platform but that'd be too weird for the two businesses I suppose.
No, but he mentioned he hates Microsoft and their shitty OS. I can't blaim him.
Well fuck they have the money, they should just become a rival company to Microsoft and sell computers eventually. They could DOMINATE the PC gaming market as dictators at that point.
Have you used steam? It's far from stable. If they wont to make an OS they need to make their shit stable first.
Exactly; you design a computer for your software and you can 100% control the stability. Not 100% but you get what I mean, if they're pumping out their own computer lines with their own OS, I'd assume they'd be more on top of the stability and glitcyness. Maybe not though, but if anyone could make that their goal in the future it's Valve.
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I don't think Gabe would assume windows 8 and an upgrade in processing would kill PC gaming. This isn't even a console it's a mini-PC for morons who can't just assemble a PC for themselves, and it'll probably be a cheaper, faster easier solution to getting something they can play PC games on. Even I might sacrifice some money to check one of these things out if their cheap enough and have more HDD space than my current computer.. lol
It's brilliant and it's going to be a success, and people are going to compare it to Xbox360 and PS3 like twats I'm sure. I was hoping Steam and Sony would just partner up and make the PS4 a Steam platform but that'd be too weird for the two businesses I suppose.
No, but he mentioned he hates Microsoft and their shitty OS. I can't blaim him.
Well fuck they have the money, they should just become a rival company to Microsoft and sell computers eventually. They could DOMINATE the PC gaming market as dictators at that point.
Have you used steam? It's far from stable. If they wont to make an OS they need to make their shit stable first.
Exactly; you design a computer for your software and you can 100% control the stability. Not 100% but you get what I mean, if they're pumping out their own computer lines with their own OS, I'd assume they'd be more on top of the stability and glitcyness. Maybe not though, but if anyone could make that their goal in the future it's Valve.
Theirs no reason for steam to be as unstable as it is, You can't blaim windows for that. Making an OS doesn't magically make every app you make on it work like a charm. It takes a long time to make a refined OS such as Windows.
Anyways, new news in about another console coming out with similar specs... XD
Said to be powered by 8-core 1.6GHz processor and 8 GB of RAM.
Can you guess who?
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Well it's not that similar given the steambox is 3.2ghz processor and 4-8gb; but uhh, who? Apple? lol
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Probably the next gen xbox, Sony's not showing anything off about theirs until Microsoft does.
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Well it's not that similar given the steambox is 3.2ghz processor and 4-8gb; but uhh, who? Apple? lol
a faster processor is the only thing that Steambox has over that. And this one is 8 cores.
I dunno, all the specs on steams...
But yeah kwaurtz is right. Next Xbox Specs is what it was.
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They'll probably have an 8core piston out if it's necessary lol