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Title: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Kwaurtz on October 13, 2012, 01:30:50 AM
As we saw in the thread discussing the Komen foundation rejecting the donations from pornhub, there was an underlying debate that was waiting to flesh from this, and Crypto helped inspire this one too.

Various countries around the world have legalized prostution, and a small part of the united states has it too. Is it morally wrong to allow it to happen? What about pornography?

Heres how I feel:
A person's body is their own, and it is not within your right, or anyone elses to tell them what they can, and cannot do with it. If I were wanting to sell my body on the street, it should be within my rights to do so, and if I wanted to watch or be in a pornography, it should be within my rights to do so. Holding such things as being negative is a set back, because it keeps old world thought process' around. We are in an age where personal freedom's are growing.

It also goes to say, that if you don't want to see these things, you can stay away from them. Nobody is forcing you to participate.
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Coreybush11 on October 13, 2012, 01:34:48 AM
Completely agree with everything in the first post.

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Don't know what else to add really..
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Scottitot on October 13, 2012, 01:39:17 AM
Just gonna post this quote from caver from the other thread before this goes any further.
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Lemme correct myself: If it is Not Safe For Work, do not post it on the forum, ever.
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: AlphaWeeaboo on October 13, 2012, 01:53:42 AM
@acornhead

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PORN /SEXUALLY EXPLICIT Due to the Forum Host’s hypersensitivity on this subject, any pictures/videos or thread topics considered Not Safe For Work, cannot be posted here. Pass through posts (linking to other sites) are also forbidden.

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6)No Posting, or linking, of Pornographic materials of any kind.  If it is Not Safe For Work, it is not safe here.

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You are stepping into this section at your own risk. The limitations present in other boards do not apply here, to a certain degree. Only if somebody is extremely offensive will he get a warning. You are all big enough.


Considering that there are no actual links to any site that depicts acts of sexual nature, nor are there any linked videos/pictures of explicit pornographic scenes, I believe the thread falls within acceptable parameters.  The thread itself merges and discusses topics of social importance, it's not a cesspool of perverts.

That said, I will be keeping a close eye on comments. This is STILL a rather controversial topic for some and I expect a respectful display of ideas from members. Should this prove to not be the case, I will lock the thread and consider adding "Anything found to be within the scope of pornography is not to be posted" along side the "Religion" debate limitations. Do not hesitate to use the forum report function should somebody step out of line.
Was posted on the other topic but I believe this topic would generally be held in the same regard.




I agree entirely with what Kwuartz said. There's nothing really else I can say about my stance. However, I'll play Devils Advocate for the sake of the debate with this:

Legalized prostitution would be a problem as there would be a likely increase in prostitutes being abducted and spread of sexual diseases. With the legalization of it, more people would be coming out into the field of prostitution both as customers and as service providers so with that chances of STDs increase as well as abductions due to the activity now being legal.

(Like I said, playing Devils Advocate here so this doesn't represent any of my beliefs though they are thoughts I've had on the issue from the opposing side. And yea, there's probably some loopholes or flaws in what I stated)
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Scottitot on October 13, 2012, 01:59:26 AM
I know im just saying it so people think about it before they post something.
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: SkiesAhoy on October 13, 2012, 02:06:12 AM
I know im just saying it so people think about it before they post something.

Which has already been explicitly stated. No need to derail the thread. Back on topic.


I largely agree with Kwartz on this respect. Pornography is a largely private industry, but that is not necessarily the case with prostitution. I believe it should be legalized (The French being the ideal scenario here) but with certain restrictions, so as to keep it away from certain sectors of society which could be harmed through exposure.
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Kwaurtz on October 13, 2012, 02:28:05 AM
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Legalized prostitution would be a problem as there would be a likely increase in prostitutes being abducted and spread of sexual diseases. With the legalization of it, more people would be coming out into the field of prostitution both as customers and as service providers so with that chances of STDs increase as well as abductions due to the activity now being legal.

(Like I said, playing Devils Advocate here so this doesn't represent any of my beliefs though they are thoughts I've had on the issue from the opposing side. And yea, there's probably some loopholes or flaws in what I stated)

Easily controlled if it is controlled privately or publicly, routine checkups, and restrictions on clientele based on whether or not they have diseases is easy enough to do. With the growing advances in the field of medicine  and health, this is virtually of no concern, especially with safe sex practices such as condoms.
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: CamperStrike on October 13, 2012, 03:10:33 AM
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Considering that there are no actual links to any site that depicts acts of sexual nature, nor are there any linked videos/pictures of explicit
Was posted on the other topic but I believe this topic would generally be held in the same regard.




I agree entirely with what Kwuartz said. There's nothing really else I can say about my stance. However, I'll play Devils Advocate for the sake of the debate with this:

Legalized prostitution would be a problem as there would be a likely increase in prostitutes being abducted and spread of sexual diseases. With the legalization of it, more people would be coming out into the field of prostitution both as customers and as service providers so with that chances of STDs increase as well as abductions due to the activity now being legal.

(Like I said, playing Devils Advocate here so this doesn't represent any of my beliefs though they are thoughts I've had on the issue from the opposing side. And yea, there's probably some loopholes or flaws in what I stated)

Actually it's the other way around. Remember the 20's when the government tried to prohibite alcohol? It's the same thing but with prostitutes.
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on October 13, 2012, 10:57:11 AM
Just another thing the government can tax imo.
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Jorgen on October 13, 2012, 11:20:49 AM
As we saw in the thread discussing the Komen foundation rejecting the donations from pornhub, there was an underlying debate that was waiting to flesh from this, and Crypto helped inspire this one too.

Various countries around the world have legalized prostution, and a small part of the united states has it too. Is it morally wrong to allow it to happen? What about pornography?

Heres how I feel:
A person's body is their own, and it is not within your right, or anyone elses to tell them what they can, and cannot do with it. If I were wanting to sell my body on the street, it should be within my rights to do so, and if I wanted to watch or be in a pornography, it should be within my rights to do so. Holding such things as being negative is a set back, because it keeps old world thought process' around. We are in an age where personal freedom's are growing.

It also goes to say, that if you don't want to see these things, you can stay away from them. Nobody is forcing you to participate.
I agree fully but I would also wish to add.
Prostitution is going to happen no matter what we do or say, the question is only its legitamecy and how that person will be treated. The way we have it now is the cartel sex trafficing stuff going on, and the same goes for prostitution as with marijuana. If people have easy access to something that is more legit, more safe and better why would they go for the other option?
I beleive the oposite would happen to what Dark Emo proposes I would think bordellos (non-dangerous) would become normal instead of the take a prostitute to a location of your choosing (dangerous). Also with proper police checks and health checks of the girls working in a bordello, you would not have such giant problems as you have now.
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Pillz on October 13, 2012, 01:26:38 PM
Porn isn't THAT immoral anymore but some people are old fashioned; while on the younger generations hand it's something kids openly talk about in high school classes. I like to assume that most every male watches it, and I've found out so do a lot of females.

Prostitution would be awesome if made legal everywhere. There are a lot of places where they have "Bunny Ranches" where you go in and fuck a hooker. Course everyone needs STD checks and you must pay with a big wad of cash; but if every running prostitution business was ran "legitimately" we could crack down on STD's and ugly hookers on the street. Why not make it safe, profitable and "healthy"?

Though like with marijuana there's a large amount of money to be made from it being illegal; so until the govt/cartel/Illuminati/Obama gets bored of it working that way I don't think we'll see any changes.
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Cadaver on October 13, 2012, 01:55:43 PM
Look up  Penn and Teller's Bulls#it on the matter of prostitution.  Simply put, if you legalize it, you can regulate it, control it, minimize it, make it safer and healthier. 

Where and when was prostitution FIRST legalized in the United States?
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Kwaurtz on October 13, 2012, 06:44:40 PM
Look up  Penn and Teller's Bulls#it on the matter of prostitution.  Simply put, if you legalize it, you can regulate it, control it, minimize it, make it safer and healthier. 

Where and when was prostitution FIRST legalized in the United States?

In parts of Nevada there are fully legal brothels. The ladies of the house receive regular checkups. Look it up, its called the bunny ranch.
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Pillz on October 14, 2012, 12:12:33 AM
Look up  Penn and Teller's Bulls#it on the matter of prostitution.  Simply put, if you legalize it, you can regulate it, control it, minimize it, make it safer and healthier. 

Where and when was prostitution FIRST legalized in the United States?

In parts of Nevada there are fully legal brothels. The ladies of the house receive regular checkups. Look it up, its called the bunny ranch.

YOU WATCHED CATHOUSE ON HBO TOO?
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Kwaurtz on October 14, 2012, 12:14:19 AM
FUCK YEAH I DID
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Cadaver on October 14, 2012, 12:18:30 AM
Look up  Penn and Teller's Bulls#it on the matter of prostitution.  Simply put, if you legalize it, you can regulate it, control it, minimize it, make it safer and healthier. 

Where and when was prostitution FIRST legalized in the United States?

In parts of Nevada there are fully legal brothels. The ladies of the house receive regular checkups. Look it up, its called the bunny ranch.
Apparently, you misinterpreted my statement.  Look at the Penn and Teller Bulls#it show on the topic. Do not link it here, as it is NSFW at all.

And the FIRST place and time for legalized prostitution in the U.S. was Nashville, Tennessee, during the occupation of the Northern Aggressors, otherwise known as the "Civil" War.   It was done by the Northern General to control Sexually Transmitted Diseases.
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: crypto on October 14, 2012, 01:25:17 AM
the Northern Aggressors
good grief
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Old Crow on October 14, 2012, 03:12:28 AM
Long live the Midwest  Meme6
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: Cadaver on October 14, 2012, 02:22:01 PM
the Northern Aggressors
good grief
That was the joke.
Title: Re: Prostitution and Pornography, immoral, or are people just too old fashioned?
Post by: crypto on October 14, 2012, 03:32:47 PM
i wasn't sure what level of irony you were operating on
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