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CG Technical Area => Help Section => Topic started by: TeH MILKDUD on July 31, 2012, 10:47:51 PM
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I am starting to build/order all my parts for my PC and i would like to know if anyone has any upgrades that could be used.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/d6di
OR direct parts here
Corsair Vengeance Blue 8 GB (2X4 GB) PC3-12800 1600mHz DDR3 240-Pin SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B – Corsair $44.99
ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon 2GB DDR5 VGA/DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort GPU Tweak Utilities PCI-Express 3.0 Graphics Card HD7870-DC2-2GD5 $329.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003 $80.68
Asus 24xDVD-RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black) $16.99
OCZ Technology OCZ Agility 4 64G SATA 6Gb/s 2.5-Inch SSD Up to 47K Random 4K Write IOPS with Max 300 MB/s Read (AGT4-25SAT3-64G) - $69.99
OCZ ZT Series 650W Fully-Modular 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom - $99.99
Corsair Hydro Series H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CWCH100) $102.74
Gigabyte Intel Z77 LGA 1155 AMD CrossFireX/NVIDIA SLI Dual LAN Dual UEFI BIOS ATX Motherboard GA-Z77X-UD5H $179.99
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack - Microsoft Software; DVD-ROM $89.13
Corsair Obsidian 650D Aluminum Mid Tower ATX Enthusiast Computer Case - Black CC650DW-1 - $158.51
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K $214.99
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OCZ are terrible with SDD's. Controller is bad. I believe sandforce.
Use a 2500k i5 you won't need a better CPU...
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OCZ are terrible with SDD's. Controller is bad. I believe sandforce.
Use a 2500k i5 you won't need a better CPU...
OCZ is good with SSD... what other SSD are better
The CPU the 2500k was the same price for the 2570k so yeah....
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OCZ's controller is made by Marvell, which also makes them for Corsair, Crucial and more.
And they are not bad. You information is years old.
Although the new Samsung ones are great Intel SSD's are actually really good as well getting some of the best write speeds with large files compared to any other SSD's available.
Samsung is a little on the expensive side in terms of SSD prices, and OCZ is pretty the same price as the rest of them to be honest. OCZ is completely fine. SSDs use to have tons of issues thoes issues with SSDs like OCZ were fixed ages ago.
IT"S FINE!@ ;D
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To me Intel SSD's are very expensive... :/
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To me Intel SSD's are very expensive... :/
yes they have gone up in price probably because of how well they were doing. Should probably only ever buy OEM SSD's tho unless your case doesn't come with a 2 1/2 " Mounting Bracket.
OCZ is fine. And is insanely fast. As for the rumours on SSD's dieing, thats total BS. An SSD should always out live a standard platter harddrive, unless its a super old SSD from before they were tweaked to their current awesomeness.
And most have warnetys. Mine I think has a 3 or 5 year one.
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"Oh look, a PC build thread! Maybe I can help!"
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P.S. Just because I'm an AMD fanboy/prick/wanted to make a point by saying "I can make a build pretty much the same as yours but a bit cheaper"
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Hey im stupid and dont know how to build a PC, does this all fit together?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dA00
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>8 cores
Boxman, are you running a server?
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Hmm. My 2 cents: Your system build is quite nice. You figured out the i5>i7 in gaming.
IF you have a Micro Center in your area, go there and compare prices, as they are comparable to online prices, without the shipping charge.
Do not get a bulldozer, they are actually phasing out these cores, as they have newer cpus coming out in the 4th Quarter of the year. With an estimated 15% boost in performance at same ghz speed, and 4ghz out the box. (Think November.) So, if you want AMD, and your present system can hold on for a few months, wait.
Plextor is another brand to look at for SSD.
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Hey im stupid and dont know how to build a PC, does this all fit together?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dA00
Yes it does but your memory could us an upgrade like 2x4 at 1600mhz
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> Boxman your dont need 8 cores during gaming. Even super high end games only us up 4 cores max thats why i5 is fine and i7 is for like if you are rendering a video playing a game and steaming something and whatever just not needed to me.
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No. The i7 is slower in gaming than the i5, due to certain core processor differences. The i7 is designed for heavy business programs, not for gaming.
So, buying the i5 for a gaming machine makes a lot of sense. And its less expensive.
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No. The i7 is slower in gaming than the i5, due to certain core processor differences. The i7 is designed for heavy business programs, not for gaming.
So, buying the i5 for a gaming machine makes a lot of sense. And its less expensive.
isnt that what i said.... i5 over i7 for gaming
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Hey im stupid and dont know how to build a PC, does this all fit together?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dA00
Yes it does but your memory could us an upgrade like 2x4 at 1600mhz
oh and you want another hard drive not just and SSD maybe like a Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM thats what i am using and SSD for my boot drive
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Yes, and no. You said i7 and multiple cores are not necessary. That is partially correct. The i5 will out run an i7 in games. It is the better platform due to performance, not less cores. But again, you are making the right decision.
Sorry if I seemed a bit, harsh, on the statement. People need to know this fact, so they do not buy something they do not need.
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Yes, and no. You said i7 and multiple cores are not necessary. That is partially correct. The i5 will out run an i7 in games. It is the better platform due to performance, not less cores. But again, you are making the right decision.
Sorry if I seemed a bit, harsh, on the statement. People need to know this fact, so they do not buy something they do not need.
no your not harsh its good to fight/talk about computer hardware because it just makes you smarter and helps you improve...
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> Boxman your dont need 8 cores during gaming. Even super high end games only us up 4 cores max thats why i5 is fine and i7 is for like if you are rendering a video playing a game and steaming something and whatever just not needed to me.
Pff, who said I only play one game at a time? Certainly not me.
>Farcry 2
>Killing Floor
>Gmod
>Payday
Those eight cores come in handy, broski.
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Why have multiple games running.
Plus, your video card won't hold it that long.
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Why have multiple games running.
Plus, your video card won't hold it that long.
It was a joke.
I personally would enjoy 8 cores. I typically render videos so I need 8 cores to get pumped out pretty quickly. That and I have always liked graphic arts, so photoshop and after effects is fun. Regardless, for $250 (including the motherboard and cpu fan), 8 cores seems like almost a steal. I typically have a lot going on at once on my computer. I currently have a 4 core that I have to overclock to 3.2ghz sometimes depending on the game. It's not fun.. What was that saying my grandpa taught me when I was younger..? Something like "Your computer is only as fast as your slowest part"
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I thought was a quote from some movie, but it was a team thing, As in the team is only as strong as its weakest member. Think it was about basketball?
Also, if you have the extra cash, I would recommend this for a case. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005
Really easy to route wires in, looks sexy, and you don't need any tools to install any components into the case. Except the ssd. need a screwdriver for that.
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The general consensus is that if you have 4gb of ram, but six cores and a $300 video card, that technically your computer is being hindered by the ram. (Just an example)
It works with the majority of the parts.
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I thought was a quote from some movie, but it was a team thing, As in the team is only as strong as its weakest member. Think it was about basketball?
Also, if you have the extra cash, I would recommend this for a case. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005
Really easy to route wires in, looks sexy, and you don't need any tools to install any components into the case. Except the ssd. need a screwdriver for that.
i like the Corsair Obsidian 650D.... (:
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The general consensus is that if you have 4gb of ram, but six cores and a $300 video card, that technically your computer is being hindered by the ram. (Just an example)
It works with the majority of the parts.
i have 8g or ram and for the most part that is as much as you need to me... mite upgrade later if i feel its needed
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The general consensus is that if you have 4gb of ram, but six cores and a $300 video card, that technically your computer is being hindered by the ram. (Just an example)
It works with the majority of the parts.
That's not a huge issue out of the box though, if he ever decides he needs more he can get it. RAM is the simplest part to swap IMO. Also, if we're still talking about Milkdud's build,
Corsair Vengeance Blue 8 GB (2X4 GB) PC3-12800 1600mHz DDR3 240-Pin SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B – Corsair $44.99
He's got 8GB of RAM.
EDIT: Lol he just said that in the post above me, nevermind.
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I forgot to add this in my update but i decided to get a better card the MSI Radeon HD7950 so yeah Meme9
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6k and 7k don't have much difference in performance.
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6k and 7k don't have much difference in performance.
well it was about like $30 more so like i mite as well get the newer one
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I bought a evga gtx 670, not sure how that compares to the card you are looking at, but it is probably more expensive. Take a gander if you are curious.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-670/
It has performed very well for me.
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I bought a evga gtx 670, not sure how that compares to the card you are looking at, but it is probably more expensive. Take a gander if you are curious.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-670/
It has performed very well for me.
it is about $100 more and i am a geforce person not radeon or amd person... go Intel!
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Had me at geforce. Lost me at intel.
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Had me at geforce. Lost me at intel.
geforce=nvidia
radeon=AMD
idk either lol
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I like amd. Just not their video cards.
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I like amd. Just not their video cards.
But their video cards is their only good product ????
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Had me at geforce. Lost me at intel.
geforce=nvidia
radeon=AMD
idk either lol
Geforce=nvidia
radeon=AMD=ATI (old)
Intel=?
Intel > AMD
only reason i got and radeon card is because it is much more cheep then Geforce cards so yeah... dont have uber amount money :(
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Call me an ATI (I refuse to ever call them AMD cards) fan boy, but I won't buy Nvidia Cards.
Granted the best swings back and forth but usually ATI holds the top card. Sometimes at a insane price but still amazing cards.
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Basically put this is the snapshot on video cards for RIGHT NOW, and it WILL change in the next month, or so (both Nvidia and ATI/AMD attempt to refresh 3-4 times a year...)
In single card, Nvidia is tops, barely, right now. In FPS, not so in quality of graphics (ATI has had that sown up for a while.) That probably will change soon.
I do not buy Nvidia cards due to their poor practices. I had a good laptop, with an Nvidia video chip. Nvidia KNEW the chip was bad (the solder was incorrect, and would fail after long periods of heat exposure.) Did they do a recall? No. They sent a software update that ran the system fan at higher speeds, so the chip would last just long enough for the warranty to expire. Did they get caught? Yes. They got sued for it. So, Nvidia was able to forum shop, and got a Judge that had ZERO idea about computers. They then got the Judge to agree to allow them to replace all the laptops, including the $7500+ ones, with a $249 Compaq. So, in effect, they screwed their customers, twice. Oh, and since MY laptop was a "special order," I got nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada. And was barred from suing by the class action suit, due to Nvidia's lawyers slipping another fast one on the same Judge. And now you know why Cadaver does not recommend Nvidia, and HP.