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CG Administration Section => Admin Abuse => Admin Department => Solved Admin Abuse => Topic started by: Finniespin on June 08, 2012, 07:16:21 PM

Title: Towersheep
Post by: Finniespin on June 08, 2012, 07:16:21 PM
Name of player reporting abuse: Finniespin

Steam ID, to facilitate ungag:
STEAM_0:0:21921149

Admin who is suspected of the abuse: Towersheep

In which server did the abuse occur?: TTT server

What occurred, what did the abuse consist of:
(perma)gagging me for saying:
"BUUTTTTHURRRTTTT" Only one word.
Had to rejoin because of messed up windows in-game due to alt-tabbing (while loading)
after that I said "HAHA"
and then suddenly perma-gagged me. He said over voip that it's against the rules.
I sure did check the rules and there was nothing about it.

What time and day did it happen (put down your time zone too): 23:00± GMT +1

Please link any evidence (videos, screen shots, etc.):
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595846901615926615/18EE3EA4BDAE549CB3CF58EE7E1B419F83B7EF27/
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595846901615920970/1CEA33E1C6E301CE59B78B32C38ACCD263027208/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595846901615923645/B1D96E3312BE13084D85764A2ACD314874716729/


Additional comments:
He was a bit mad because he died as traitor. So he was kind of stressed dealing with the administration stuff.

To towersheep personally. I don't want to be a dick to you really. I just want to have fun and play some TTT.
Everyone knows I don't do anything wrong. I just want to make fun ok. Is that a bad thing?

You don't have to ruin everything for me. I just want to play the game and talk to you normally in a friendly matter.

I won't accuse you of anything if you just can be nice to me for once.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: TowerSheep on June 08, 2012, 07:24:28 PM
I admit, I forgot to put this rule in the punishment standards (which has now be corrected). For evidence this is not a new rule: http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=5739.0 (http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=5739.0)

Just look at the reasons for some of them. You'll see quite a few "after rejoining or rejoining to avoid a mute"
I don't make exceptions with the rules. I've told you many times not to troll on the server.

I don't believe that you had an alt tab bug because you only said that after the pgag. However I will defer to the CL's and other admins on the decision.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Andredem on June 08, 2012, 07:33:45 PM
I honestly do not understand why you would say "HAHA" after rejoining. Were you laughing at the bug that made you rejoin? Because it sure as hell looked like you were rubbing it in Tower's face using the chat.

I was on to see this and I don't think you should of even started the trolling Finnie. You've been around for forever. You're a veteran, shouldn't you know better? You're one of the type of people I look up to on CG.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Finniespin on June 08, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
You should really feel terrible right now. Just to add a new rule only to prove yourself innocent. Disgusting!

Plus this was on the ADMIN OFFICE. How should non-admins know.

Alt-tab bug here:
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595846901616384070/8D87D9DE15CB9479809AD48FD1836FE0D032FC21/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595846901616382716/279EAC0C44E9BA86F9E5AA17BE1D1470FE5E699E/

Why would I f*cking lie, now you're seriously just making me pissed.
You should feel terrible.

<If this is a personal attack. Mods are free to remove it.>
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Finniespin on June 08, 2012, 07:37:29 PM
I honestly do not understand why you would say "HAHA" after rejoining.
Out of habbit.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: holydeath98 on June 08, 2012, 07:42:47 PM
that alt tab bug you were talking about only while the server is switching maps ( or at least the screen shots you show are) and in your last screen shot  (from the first post) it shows that you said "butthurt" in team chat after you had died, the round wasn't even over so there should have been no bug.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Coreybush11 on June 08, 2012, 07:44:59 PM
that alt tab bug you were talking about only while the server is switching maps ( or at least the screen shots you show are) and in your last screen shot  (from the first post) it shows that you said "butthurt" in team chat after you had died, the round wasn't even over so there should have been no bug.

I've had it happen when the round was changing, not just on map change.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Blackllama on June 08, 2012, 07:50:16 PM
I honestly do not understand why you would say "HAHA" after rejoining.
Out of habbit.
That's an odd habit to develop.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: TowerSheep on June 08, 2012, 07:50:50 PM
Look at the earliest date on that thread. Are you implying I traveled back to Dec 19, 2011 (look at Cortez's first post) and added the rule?

It has been around for a long time, I just forgot to put it in the thread. Admins don't need to know what all the standards for punishment because they may push the limit but not cross it.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Finniespin on June 08, 2012, 07:53:00 PM
Admins don't need to know what all the standards for punishment because they may push the limit but not cross it.
I assume that's also a new rule you just made...

Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: TowerSheep on June 08, 2012, 08:06:11 PM
Admins don't need to know what all the standards for punishment because they may push the limit but not cross it.
I assume that's also a new rule you just made...
I see your argument and raise you Dec 19, 2011.

The ACTIVE admins seems to know the rule.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: holydeath98 on June 08, 2012, 08:09:19 PM
that alt tab bug you were talking about only while the server is switching maps ( or at least the screen shots you show are) and in your last screen shot  (from the first post) it shows that you said "butthurt" in team chat after you had died, the round wasn't even over so there should have been no bug.

I've had it happen when the round was changing, not just on map change.

look at the screen shot, it says 5:18 minutes left sounds the rounds wasn't anywhere near ending. And yea i get the bug to after map switching and round ending.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Finniespin on June 08, 2012, 08:24:06 PM
I see your argument and raise you Dec 19, 2011.

The ACTIVE admins seems to know the rule.
What?!
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: TowerSheep on June 08, 2012, 08:28:17 PM
I see your argument and raise you Dec 19, 2011.

The ACTIVE admins seems to know the rule.
What?!
http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=5739.0 (http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=5739.0)
Look at the dates, I did not make this rule up today. The first RECORDED pgag/mute was on DEC 19 2011. Many admins have logged their punishments here.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Finniespin on June 08, 2012, 08:35:42 PM
http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=5739.0 (http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=5739.0)
Look at the dates, I did not make this rule up today. The first RECORDED pgag/mute was on DEC 19 2011. Many admins have logged their punishments here.
How would I watch on a Trouble in Terrorist Town admin topic. In an admin office. That is only supposed to be for Trouble in Terrorist Town admins...

Like you know all about the bans and muted/gagged players on hale. It's doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: arth987 on June 08, 2012, 08:36:14 PM
I don't really wanna get into this.. but that has been a rule.. i also think that since it wasn't written down he wouldn't have known regardless of the fact that its common sense that you take a punishment and not try to end it yourself, but i also think that you should have gagged him again not perma and told him not to leave and rejoin again or he will be perma gagged.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: TowerSheep on June 08, 2012, 08:36:59 PM
You're not supposed to follow it. This is just proof that this rule was not made for you. You just happened to break it.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Finniespin on June 08, 2012, 08:44:08 PM
You're not supposed to follow it. This is just proof that this rule was not made for you. You just happened to break it.
I should not follow it, so I cannot know about the rule... Makes complete sense...  /sarcasm
Rule was not made for me... You still (perma)gagged me.
"Happened to break it"... Well I just so "happened" to accuse you of admin abuse.

It all doesn't make any damn sense.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Waffuls the Huntress on June 08, 2012, 08:46:08 PM
The re-joining to avoid a mute/gag.. That's after TWO rejoins. The first rejoin is a warning and regag, the second is a pgag. Two other admins said this to you, and you said "no, it's always been one rejoin." Then why do I waste my time warning people when they avoid the first time?

Tower, I'm almost positive it's after two rejoins. Lately you've been a little.. quick to admin. Had a CvG friend pop in and he was asking me why the head admin to this server was muting and gagging people for saying you were acting like a douche when you were yelling at them for saying "this map is overplayed." Or when I killed myself on my innocent round to watch a video and you were killed on your T round for it. You told me to leave and when I said no, you kicked me. Just saying.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: TowerSheep on June 08, 2012, 08:55:26 PM
@Waff: It's always been a 1 rejoin. If you want to give the person another chance that it your call as an admin. I have never said warn then pgag. Now I know where the idea of that comes from. I let admins who want to be nice do so, I am not a dictator. That said, I've told finnie not to troll several times (not today) and gagged him some of those times.

Your CvG friend was mic-spamming the whole preround into the actual round about it. He would not drop it, so I yelled (maybe I shouldn't have).
Another guy called me a douche for the gag, I warned him not to do it again, he called me a douche again. he was gagged.
I have been quick to admin because there have been a lot of people breaking the rules since the MOTD broke. I'd rather the trolls rage quit the server than our regulars see admins do nothing about blatant trolling.

@You have every right to suspect that I abused because the rule was not posted, I honestly thought it was there but I am human and make mistaked. TTT admins who are active know the rule and have been pmuting/pgagging for it.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Waffuls the Huntress on June 08, 2012, 09:02:52 PM
Just want to defend my friend here now. He did not use the mic to say anything about it to you. He was typing to me about it. The only time he did use mic was after the round started and was playing the game.

And also: Quick to admin trolls? Am I a troll? You told me to leave when you were killed on your T round because of me, and when I was trying to tell you that I didn't know anyone was around me, that I just wanted to watch my video, you kicked me. I mean. I guess now I can do that too now, I suppose? Kick anyone that kills me on my T round without a good reason when they refuse to leave when I tell them to. Or I'm just a troll and you can quickly admin me all you want.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: TowerSheep on June 08, 2012, 09:16:41 PM
I was out of line. Not gonna make excuses.
I may have mixed up which was your friend but thats why there was a mute and gag so close together. This thread is about finnie. Amd the pgag. If you think i abused feel free to make a thread.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Waffuls the Huntress on June 08, 2012, 09:28:31 PM
Alright. For TS: I have looked at the punishment standards and I see that it is, in fact, a single rejoin. Could you please do something to change it to two? Games do tend to crash at the worst times, and it'll give us a better reputation as a gaming community if we lay off being so.. well, not giving any warnings. I would love this to be changed for the derogatory speech as well. Then people won't find us such butthurt admins.

And please, for future references, don't be so hurtful to players in-game. If someone yelled at me, do you not expect me to yell back? Then to be muted for defending myself? Again, giving us a bad rep.

To Finnie: I haven't seen your actions in-game, and I was alive when you were gagged in dead chat, so I couldn't see that either. But seeing how you're acting here and in the shoutbox, I really do side with Tower. I kind of feel like this should be his final warning, though. One more screw up and it's a pgag. We can't really prove that he crashed, but coming back and saying "haha?" Sort of on the fence about it.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Andredem on June 08, 2012, 09:40:05 PM
2 rejoins would be better. It really does kind of get the accidently disconnect cases out of the way. Personally, I understand where TowerSheep is coming from when he talks about Finnie trolling before, so I won't side with the admin abuse. But I will side with a rule change to 2 warnings- which should land Finnie getting ungagged.. idk... TowerSheep says Finnie's done it before and maybe he deserved the permanent gag anyway. And in TTT you can still use binds and microphone use, which is essentially better than typing on TTT. 

I'm not sure if I can agree with the admin abuse. TowerSheep is responsible and is one of the best leaders I've seen, even though he gets angry, which is human. I get angry. Everyone does.

Maybe with the whole unposted official rule controversy thing can be reversed and changed to 2 rejoins.  We'll always have this rejoining pmute/pgag process scarred into each and every one of us from this case.

Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Liam Neeson on June 08, 2012, 09:57:19 PM
Towersheep did something similar last night on ventrillo when all of us were having a debate with doombringer about doom 3 when at random towersheep told off all of us in the channel and then Banned doombringer after he said something jokingly back
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Blackllama on June 08, 2012, 10:13:14 PM
Okay, not going to get to far into this, but a few comments.

The haha thing kind of makes me doubt DCing was an accident, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say this:

If you know you have a glitch that makes you disconnect, try not to activate it.  If you have no choice but to activate it, or need to rejoin for some reason, simply let the admins know you will be rejoining and it'll be fine.  If you do disconnect on accident, and were gagged before leaving, maybe just don't rejoin immediately?  Wait 15-20 minutes and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Liam Neeson on June 08, 2012, 10:15:33 PM
Okay, not going to get to far into this, but a few comments.

The haha thing kind of makes me doubt DCing was an accident, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say this:

If you know you have a glitch that makes you disconnect, try not to activate it.  If you have no choice but to activate it, or need to rejoin for some reason, simply let the admins know you will be rejoining and it'll be fine.  If you do disconnect on accident, and were gagged before leaving, maybe just don't rejoin immediately?  Wait 15-20 minutes and you'll be fine.

or we could just change the rule to 2 rejoins instead
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: TowerSheep on June 08, 2012, 10:22:56 PM
Since most of the admins want it, I will change it to 2 rejoins. Next time Finnie is on, please ungag him. If we are changing the rule I'm not going to hold the punishment against him.  However, Finnie the next gag will be perma. As I've gagged you several times now and I'm tired of the trolling.

@Alec: Last night was a terrible night for me personally (more stress than I was able to handle). I've apologized to artix and dante about the whole thing. Again, I admit I was wrong. I am a human with emotions, I do fuck up. It's funny because I heard no one (including inject) complain. In fact someone even said he deserved it. Also you, Irish, Artix, and Dante were doing nothing but trolling each other over the same damn points.

@Waff: I posted that AFTER he made this thread (To be fair) because I didn't realize I had not posted it.

I still await CL's to put their opinions in to if this was abuse or not. As far as I see, he broke a rule and was punished.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Liam Neeson on June 08, 2012, 10:32:26 PM
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@Alec: Last night was a terrible night for me personally (more stress than I was able to handle). I've apologized to artix and dante about the whole thing. Again, I admit I was wrong. I am a human with emotions, I do fuck up. It's funny because I heard no one (including inject) complain. In fact someone even said he deserved it. Also you, Irish, Artix, and Dante were doing nothing but trolling each other over the same damn points.

This isn't the first time you've decided to tell people off in ventrillo first off, secondly losing your temper is one thing we all do that its normal , but to lose your temper and then use your admin powers for personal gain is a different story entirely and no one complains because it would just add fuel to the fire and cause more drama.

edit: ya the last line of this was a little harsh
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: TowerSheep on June 08, 2012, 10:33:58 PM
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@Alec: Last night was a terrible night for me personally (more stress than I was able to handle). I've apologized to artix and dante about the whole thing. Again, I admit I was wrong. I am a human with emotions, I do fuck up. It's funny because I heard no one (including inject) complain. In fact someone even said he deserved it. Also you, Irish, Artix, and Dante were doing nothing but trolling each other over the same damn points.

This isn't the first time you've decided to tell people off in ventrillo first off, secondly losing your temper is one thing we all do that its normal , but to lose your temper and then use your admin powers for personal gain is a different story entirely and no one complains because it would just add fuel to the fire and cause more drama.

Again, I admit I was wrong. I apologized to him. I actually tried to unban him but I don't know how to unban people on vent. I also left the room to prevent me from doing anything else stupid.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: U MAD??? on June 08, 2012, 11:12:43 PM
Just gonna add this on since I felt that this entire thread is kinda lols. I was on saxton hale server one day and finnie spin a few days before decided to call my items all cancerous, so I decided to say he had cancerous items also since im me . So while I was on saxton hale one day playing I noticed that Finnie joined so when he got on and started talking I decided why not just say cancer randomly over the mic just for lols right after I was kicked by Finnie when i rejoined and said lol, he had muted me and gagged me for a day. So if were talking about kind of funny bans and such like im thinking, might be wrong. So I just though I would throw in my situations of Finnie and lol worthy bans just to add to this thread.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on June 08, 2012, 11:42:19 PM
The thing is with all of this is that Finniespin trolls, gets under peoples skin and pushes boundaries from time to time, but that's just how he is (at least so long as I've known him). I understand that gagging him is probably an easy thing to do and seeing him rejoin and say "Haha" is just frustrating. Also the avoiding gag/mute rules have been there for months and if you haven't noticed them it's your own fault. So truly I think that all is somewhat well here, Finnie has found the limits and Towersheep has learned from this, as have we all I hope.

Alec I was kind of wondering where that "Some changes that could be made" thread came from and quite frankly that's pathetic. Obviously quite a few of those suggestions were cause of the mishap on ventrillo and the fact that you didn't come right out and make an admin abuse thread or whatever is sad. If you need to say your peace but do it directly.

Razer you obviously have claim to various admins abusing you or so it seems, you should really make a thread.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Old Crow on June 08, 2012, 11:49:00 PM
Just gonna add this on since I felt that this entire thread is kinda lols. I was on saxton hale server one day and finnie spin a few days before decided to call my items all cancerous, so I decided to say he had cancerous items also since im me . So while I was on saxton hale one day playing I noticed that Finnie joined so when he got on and started talking I decided why not just say cancer randomly over the mic just for lols right after I was kicked by Finnie when i rejoined and said lol, he had muted me and gagged me for a day. So if were talking about kind of funny bans and such like im thinking, might be wrong. So I just though I would throw in my situations of Finnie and lol worthy bans just to add to this thread.

Why is this here? Does this not concern towersheep and finnie, not something between you and finnie.

Cortez is correct, if you do not care about bringing it up under an abuse thread, then why bring it up now?
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: U MAD??? on June 08, 2012, 11:52:52 PM
I have to agree with the face that Finnie can be a troll from time to time but you also need to consider admins should not troll, they need to be respected and I do not know of many trolls that are very well respected. Also last time I called admin abuse was for trolling inject and the thread itself was also a troll and that was also about a year ago maybe a little less but that is beside the point.

And to oldcrow I just thought I would add this just to show that Finnie can be in a bad mood which tower might have been in the time he did his so called "admin abuse".
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Old Crow on June 08, 2012, 11:58:32 PM
I have to agree with the face that Finnie can be a troll from time to time but you also need to consider admins should not troll, they need to be respected and I do not know of many trolls that are very well respected. Also last time I called admin abuse was for trolling inject and the thread itself was also a troll and that was also about a year ago maybe a little less but that is beside the point.

And to oldcrow I just thought I would add this just to show that Finnie can be in a bad mood which tower might have been in the time he did his so called "admin abuse".

Gotcha, understood.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Liam Neeson on June 09, 2012, 12:28:14 AM
The thing is with all of this is that Finniespin trolls, gets under peoples skin and pushes boundaries from time to time, but that's just how he is (at least so long as I've known him). I understand that gagging him is probably an easy thing to do and seeing him rejoin and say "Haha" is just frustrating. Also the avoiding gag/mute rules have been there for months and if you haven't noticed them it's your own fault. So truly I think that all is somewhat well here, Finnie has found the limits and Towersheep has learned from this, as have we all I hope.

Alec I was kind of wondering where that "Some changes that could be made" thread came from and quite frankly that's pathetic. Obviously quite a few of those suggestions were cause of the mishap on ventrillo and the fact that you didn't come right out and make an admin abuse thread or whatever is sad. If you need to say your peace but do it directly.

Razer you obviously have claim to various admins abusing you or so it seems, you should really make a thread.

A: I wasn't the one that was abused so it would have been up to doombringer to post a separate thread

B: If someone abuses admin on ventrillo and then the very next day you see a thread about that same person abusing admin then your going to post it

But whats really "sad" is you posting something so blunt and offensive about things you know nothing about
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Nelth on June 09, 2012, 12:39:18 AM
We seem to be turning this thread into a rage war, which is quite pathetic concerning that the issue has ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Blackllama on June 09, 2012, 12:47:31 AM
A: I wasn't the one that was abused so it would have been up to doombringer to post a separate thread
THIS IS SO WRONG IT HURTS ME.

If you see an admin abusing even if you are not directly involved, as long as you are sure it is abuse and you understand what is going on, REPORT IT.

It's like all that bullying and bystander crap you learned about in elementary school from your school counselor.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Liam Neeson on June 09, 2012, 12:53:33 AM
A: I wasn't the one that was abused so it would have been up to doombringer to post a separate thread
THIS IS SO WRONG IT HURTS ME.

If you see an admin abusing even if you are not directly involved, as long as you are sure it is abuse and you understand what is going on, REPORT IT.

It's like all that bullying and bystander crap you learned about in elementary school from your school counselor.

and the irony of all this is that I did post and yet im still getting crap for it
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Blackllama on June 09, 2012, 12:55:31 AM
A: I wasn't the one that was abused so it would have been up to doombringer to post a separate thread
THIS IS SO WRONG IT HURTS ME.

If you see an admin abusing even if you are not directly involved, as long as you are sure it is abuse and you understand what is going on, REPORT IT.

It's like all that bullying and bystander crap you learned about in elementary school from your school counselor.

and the irony of all this is that I did post and yet im still getting crap for it
By report I mean make a thread with the format.  Nothing official will happen otherwise.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Inject OH 4 on June 09, 2012, 12:56:27 AM
I understand muting him even for your sitting session but a Pgag/Pmute was probably to far. The language disconnect/barrier sometimes gets me with Finniespin where I can't tell if hes trolling or being funny or just doing something else, I usually assume I just misunderstood him but with the amount of people who say hes a troll I dunno.

However I still stand by thinking a Pmute/Pgag is to far of a punishment especially if hes admin.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: U MAD??? on June 09, 2012, 01:28:40 AM
We seem to be turning this thread into a rage war, which is quite pathetic concerning that the issue has ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED.
I just posted in this thread to show a certain aspect of Finnies personalities and this is my last post in this thread cause im bored.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Inject OH 4 on June 09, 2012, 01:32:49 AM
We seem to be turning this thread into a rage war, which is quite pathetic concerning that the issue has ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED.


Well the threads purpose of title is along the lines of "Did or is Towersheep admin abusing"

Some still think he did so to them the issue isn't resolved.

I have no coral quarrel or input much to this topic I've already stated my points but that's all.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Liam Neeson on June 09, 2012, 01:35:50 AM
We seem to be turning this thread into a rage war, which is quite pathetic concerning that the issue has ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED.


Well the threads purpose of title is along the lines of "Did or is Towersheep admin abusing"

Some still think he did so to them the issue isn't resolved.

I have no coral or input much to this topic I've already stated my points but that's all.

quickly someone get inject some coral and bring a dictionary too
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Inject OH 4 on June 09, 2012, 01:39:57 AM
We seem to be turning this thread into a rage war, which is quite pathetic concerning that the issue has ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED.


Well the threads purpose of title is along the lines of "Did or is Towersheep admin abusing"

Some still think he did so to them the issue isn't resolved.

I have no coral or input much to this topic I've already stated my points but that's all.

quickly someone get inject some coral and bring a dictionary too
quarrel (he had to look it up too)
(http://i.imgur.com/8ZCvA.png)
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Liam Neeson on June 09, 2012, 01:45:34 AM
We seem to be turning this thread into a rage war, which is quite pathetic concerning that the issue has ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED.


Well the threads purpose of title is along the lines of "Did or is Towersheep admin abusing"

Some still think he did so to them the issue isn't resolved.

I have no coral or input much to this topic I've already stated my points but that's all.

quickly someone get inject some coral and bring a dictionary too
quarrel (he had to look it up too)
(http://i.imgur.com/8ZCvA.png)

fake
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Boxman on June 09, 2012, 02:03:21 AM
We seem to be turning this thread into a rage war, which is quite pathetic concerning that the issue has ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED.


Well the threads purpose of title is along the lines of "Did or is Towersheep admin abusing"

Some still think he did so to them the issue isn't resolved.

I have no coral or input much to this topic I've already stated my points but that's all.

quickly someone get inject some coral and bring a dictionary too
quarrel (he had to look it up too)
(http://i.imgur.com/8ZCvA.png)

fake

This entire thread is nothing more than a personal attack on one another... Why is this even happening?
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Inject OH 4 on June 09, 2012, 02:35:54 AM
We seem to be turning this thread into a rage war, which is quite pathetic concerning that the issue has ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED.


Well the threads purpose of title is along the lines of "Did or is Towersheep admin abusing"

Some still think he did so to them the issue isn't resolved.

I have no coral or input much to this topic I've already stated my points but that's all.

quickly someone get inject some coral and bring a dictionary too
quarrel (he had to look it up too)
(http://i.imgur.com/8ZCvA.png)

fake

This entire thread is nothing more than a personal attack on one another... Why is this even happening?
That wasn't a personal attack that was a joke.

In fact I don't see any personal attacks going on. You people are to quick to scream "MOMMY HES MAKING FUN OF ME" well knock it off -_-
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Inject OH 4 on June 09, 2012, 02:44:31 AM
Alec I was kind of wondering where that "Some changes that could be made" thread came from and quite frankly that's pathetic. Obviously quite a few of those suggestions were cause of the mishap on ventrillo and the fact that you didn't come right out and make an admin abuse thread or whatever is sad. If you need to say your peace but do it directly.
Alec pointed this post out sorry I glossed over it.

But as a side note, what the hell are you talking about? What are you even talking about don't fucking TLDR Do not fucking post shit if your not even going to read his thread has nothing to do with that and most of the adjustments are forum adjustments which have nothing to do with tower at all perhaps the incident tower had on vent sparked him to anger but I doubt it was the soul reason of the posting of the thread. The points and comments of his thread and valid opinions granted I do not agree with all of them some actually make quite a bit of sense however that is neither hear nor there as it is unrelated from this topic.

Keep on topic.
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Dante on June 09, 2012, 02:50:37 AM
Yeah I didnt Make an Abuse Thread Against Tower Sheep Because Thinking About Making One Makes Me Feel Dirty/Bad/Guilty and I really Didnt want to cause Drama, but now I just... idk. I think Tower Needs A Brake, Hes Perma-Gagged 2 people and Perma-Banned one. Two Of which were obviously Joking Around Or Talking To Somone Else. Another Thing This: Im Only Human reason is Bull, Being Human Shouldnt Be the answer to alot Of Abuse Stuff, But For Some Reason it is. And For Those That Dont Know What Happened in vent, this is what happened.
1) Talking To Liam, Artix, And Irish, JOKINGLY saying Doom 3 and League Of Legends Deserve To Be Game Of The Century.
2) Start Countering their arguments with Worse Arguments(On Purpose)
3) Start Saying How Doom 3 Is Beast And Better Then Half-Life and Resident: Evil
4) Get Kicked With Response of: Fix Your Fucking Mic And Shut The Fuck Up. In Ventrillo General Chat/Lounge Mind you.
5) Go figuring Towa Or Inject Did it, then find out multiple people were kicked so I figured, Glitch or accident.
6) Start Talking With the again With them again when Liam(?) Finnaly states that I should get Sarcasm Of The Year Award For Being Sarcastic For So long.
7) Me (After I short Delay when everythings quite) Said U mad bro towards Liam(?) But I can See How He Could Have Thought I was Talking To Him.
8) I try to talk to him in steam chat to figure out Why he Permad me From Vent To a Reply Of basically "Fuck Off"
9) He Then Set Himself To Offline Making It so I cant Say Anything.
10) He Then Removes Me, And In the morning When I try to talk to him he stays in Offline Mode, and denies my freind request.
11) I beg Jorgen to Unban Me.
12) I get back on and hang out
13) Tower Gets On, Me Feeling Guilty (IDK Y I WAS) say "Im Sorry For Pissing You Off Yesterday" To Which He Said I hate you and fix your mic.
14) I leave Getting A Head Ache.
15) Log Back On With a massive headache to hear about this thread, Then Go Play D&D To Try and get rid of it. Now Reading This its back...
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: TowerSheep on June 09, 2012, 03:09:54 AM
Yeah I didnt Make an Abuse Thread Against Tower Sheep Because Thinking About Making One Makes Me Feel Dirty/Bad/Guilty and I really Didnt want to cause Drama, but now I just... idk. I think Tower Needs A Brake, Hes Perma-Gagged 2 people and Perma-Banned one. Two Of which were obviously Joking Around Or Talking To Somone Else. Another Thing This: Im Only Human reason is Bull, Being Human Shouldnt Be the answer to alot Of Abuse Stuff, But For Some Reason it is. And For Those That Dont Know What Happened in vent, this is what happened.
1) Talking To Liam, Artix, And Irish, JOKINGLY saying Doom 3 and League Of Legends Deserve To Be Game Of The Century.
2) Start Countering their arguments with Worse Arguments(On Purpose)
3) Start Saying How Doom 3 Is Beast And Better Then Half-Life and Resident: Evil
4) Get Kicked With Response of: Fix Your Fucking Mic And Shut The Fuck Up. In Ventrillo General Chat/Lounge Mind you.
5) Go figuring Towa Or Inject Did it, then find out multiple people were kicked so I figured, Glitch or accident.
6) Start Talking With the again With them again when Liam(?) Finnaly states that I should get Sarcasm Of The Year Award For Being Sarcastic For So long.
7) Me (After I short Delay when everythings quite) Said U mad bro towards Liam(?) But I can See How He Could Have Thought I was Talking To Him.
8) I try to talk to him in steam chat to figure out Why he Permad me From Vent To a Reply Of basically "Fuck Off"
9) He Then Set Himself To Offline Making It so I cant Say Anything.
10) He Then Removes Me, And In the morning When I try to talk to him he stays in Offline Mode, and denies my freind request.
11) I beg Jorgen to Unban Me.
12) I get back on and hang out
13) Tower Gets On, Me Feeling Guilty (IDK Y I WAS) say "Im Sorry For Pissing You Off Yesterday" To Which He Said I hate you and fix your mic.
14) I leave Getting A Head Ache.
15) Log Back On With a massive headache to hear about this thread, Then Go Play D&D To Try and get rid of it. Now Reading This its back...

The things that are wrong with your post
1. I perma-gagged 1 person. I have not perma-banned anyone in quite some time. (I just check source bans and I haven't pbanned in a bit)
2. I said I was sorry to you soon as I joined. I said it to both you and Artix. I asked you again to fix your mic and after you did I said "I have nothing against you now"

The reason I didn't want to talk to you was because I wanted to calm down rather than continue to yell like an idiot. (Yes, me being the idiot).
Title: Re: Towersheep
Post by: Jorgen on June 09, 2012, 08:40:35 AM
Okey since none of the CLs wish to do this I will, for the sake of silence, we can convene at a later time about the other things and this I guess.

Towesheep did not directly abuse his admin, an admin can pgag for rejoining it has been like that since I was HA. He has changed the rules to 2 rejoins now, and granted Finnie that second go. So Finnie, act more respectfully towards TS and he will act more respectfully towards you. To TS if you are having a bad day, I know it is hard but try not to administrate to much (because it sounds like a slightly rushed gag which might've been due to emotions).

On all of the other strikes being taken up, please make a separate thread as this is not the place for debating this.

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