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CG Administration Section => Admin Applications => Admin Department => Solved Applications => Topic started by: Shikaru on October 24, 2011, 04:16:48 AM

Title: TTT Admin App *DENIED*
Post by: Shikaru on October 24, 2011, 04:16:48 AM: What server are you applying for: CG TTT #1

Were you recommended by an admin? If so state the name: Old Crow

In game name:(=CG=) à¹–ÛœSÑ’á¸¯karu

Link to your steam page: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197991784473/

Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:15759372

Do you have past admin experience: Yes i have ran multiple CSS servers and have had admin on 3 gmod servers

Why you wish to be admin: I
want to make sure others follow the rules because it gets very tiring on my part and on the other admins to constantly be called out of a game they are playing, to admin on the TTT server
What are some good qualities you possess: Friendly, i am very easy going, reliable, i am a no bullshit person

What country are you from: USA

Age: 18

*Additional Information*
Tendovvi +1
Commodore +1
Sir Willis +1
Old Crow +1
Camper Strike +1
Cortez +1
BlackLlama +1

These are all my +1 from other admins since my app keeps getting denied before anyone has really had a chance to see it i took the liberty of gathering a list of +1 admins and have told Inject i was.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: CamperStrike on October 24, 2011, 04:19:54 AM: Cool guy, never had problems with him.

+1
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Sir Willis on October 24, 2011, 04:33:55 AM: give him a shot at admin, seems like he would make a good one.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Ashes Relandi on October 24, 2011, 04:51:57 AM: you've been through 4 admin apps...

Never had a problem with you...
+1

Give him a shot.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Dinomoto on October 24, 2011, 08:41:44 AM: If he's been through 4 admin apps...he's not very worth it at all.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Tendovvi on October 24, 2011, 11:38:15 AM: +1 He's fun to play with give him a chance at admining nao :>
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Blackllama on October 24, 2011, 12:20:21 PM: I'm too lazy to think of something to say so what they said
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: TowerSheep on October 24, 2011, 12:39:22 PM: I'll consider it. You've been on best behavior since your last app, a very good sign. I don't like saying the same thing to the same people.
+0.5 (you'll likely be accepted)
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Old Crow on October 24, 2011, 12:44:05 PM: +1 4th app but he's improved his attitude..

If you do get accepted I leave you with this quote. "With great power comes great responsibility"
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Hair Slut on October 24, 2011, 12:44:33 PM: aww yeah +1 all the way, never had a problem with him, always followed rules etc.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on October 24, 2011, 04:47:58 PM: 1+ Shikaru hasn't really rdm'ed much since his last app and has been handling the game very well

hope to see you as an admin :D
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: ZupZup on October 24, 2011, 05:53:12 PM: +7 trollface
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Jorgen on October 24, 2011, 08:08:03 PM: Quote from: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on October 24, 2011, 04:47:58 PM
1+ Shikaru hasn't really rdm'ed much since his last app and has been handling the game very well

hope to see you as an admin :D
Hasn't really rdm'ed much since his last app you say, if he was admin material it would be none or next to none, all the time.

I've never purposely RDM'ed and that is the reason I am admin material because I can judge a situation and see if it is just or not, a person who has played for this long and still RDMs knows he is RDMing and therefor I have my doubts at how he will be able to judge a situation.

I don't have anything against him personally but I can't see that he is stabile or calm enough to be an admin.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Blood on October 24, 2011, 08:18:19 PM: Quote from: Dinomoto on October 24, 2011, 08:41:44 AM
If he's been through 4 admin apps...he's not very worth it at all.

This.

if someone was denied that many times in the past, don't you think they would have a good reason for it? i mean come on...
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on October 24, 2011, 09:00:44 PM: Quote from: Blood on October 24, 2011, 08:18:19 PM
Quote from: Dinomoto on October 24, 2011, 08:41:44 AM
If he's been through 4 admin apps...he's not very worth it at all.

This.

if someone was denied that many times in the past, don't you think they would have a good reason for it? i mean come on...

Really, you really don't think people can change.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Jorgen on October 24, 2011, 11:21:39 PM: Quote from: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on October 24, 2011, 09:00:44 PM
Quote from: Blood on October 24, 2011, 08:18:19 PM
Quote from: Dinomoto on October 24, 2011, 08:41:44 AM
If he's been through 4 admin apps...he's not very worth it at all.

This.

if someone was denied that many times in the past, don't you think they would have a good reason for it? i mean come on...

Really, you really don't think people can change.
Going from getting banned 3 or so times for karma, and several others for other things, to admin behaviour. Nope.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Shikaru on October 24, 2011, 11:27:57 PM: um only had 1 karma ban... thats all i remember being banned for... and almost got banned on a rdm complaint against me when the other dude was rdming me and others but his ban on me got denied...
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: ELBdelorean on October 25, 2011, 12:18:27 AM: I suppose the guy in the $9000 suit has to come here and say yes. COME ON!

(That was a yes)
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Jorgen on October 25, 2011, 08:12:54 AM: Actually it is more than 1 ban, several, because you've even complained more times about it than 1.

I remember the old sourcebans had around 3 or 4 with your steam ID so.
I actually hindered you from being permed back then, I believe as many as 2 people asked me to perm you.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Blackllama on October 25, 2011, 08:32:33 PM: I believe people should be given a second chance, you have to make mistakes in order to improve both of which Shikaru has done.

I went through a few different apps. I've also been banned, there's plenty of admins out there who've made mistakes. Besides, if he previously was RDMing, he's not doing it anymore, people change.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: CamperStrike on October 25, 2011, 08:43:50 PM: I'm with Blackllama on this one. I've been banned from the CG TTT for like 4 or 5 times (all because of RDM, when I still thought it was fun ruining other people's game parrot). Then, I began respecting the community and eventually took part of it. I'm proud to say that since my last ban (which was like 4 months ago) whenever I rdm (which rarely happens), I admit I made a mistake and ask the person if he/she wants me to slay myself.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Dinomoto on October 25, 2011, 09:39:01 PM: Quote
I believe people should be given a second chance

Why yes, but its his FOURTH app.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on October 25, 2011, 10:09:26 PM: Quote from: Dinomoto on October 25, 2011, 09:39:01 PM
Quote
I believe people should be given a second chance

Why yes, but its his FOURTH app.

And this is your 3000th pointless post -.-
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Yarou on October 25, 2011, 10:39:30 PM: Quote from: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on October 25, 2011, 10:09:26 PM
Quote from: Dinomoto on October 25, 2011, 09:39:01 PM
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I believe people should be given a second chance

Why yes, but its his FOURTH app.

And this is your 3000th pointless post -.-

3622th*
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Guvnuh on October 25, 2011, 10:42:20 PM: Quote from: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on October 25, 2011, 10:09:26 PM
Quote from: Dinomoto on October 25, 2011, 09:39:01 PM
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I believe people should be given a second chance

Why yes, but its his FOURTH app.

And this is your 3000th pointless post -.-
Terrible analogy.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: ELBdelorean on October 25, 2011, 11:02:27 PM: Quote from: Yarou on October 25, 2011, 10:39:30 PM
Quote from: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on October 25, 2011, 10:09:26 PM
Quote from: Dinomoto on October 25, 2011, 09:39:01 PM
Quote
I believe people should be given a second chance

Why yes, but its his FOURTH app.

And this is your 3000th pointless post -.-

3622th*

Three thousand six hundred and twenty-twoeth?
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Ashes Relandi on October 25, 2011, 11:28:53 PM: Keep in on topic guys

I say give him a chance. 4 apps hes gone through. he MAY have changed but keep an eye on him if you see him
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Old Crow on October 25, 2011, 11:53:15 PM: Yes it is his forth app, yes he has a history but he does deserve a chance. Being an admin is a big responsiblity and he needs to do his job hence the point of being a trial admin before becoming a regular admin. Any solid abuse from him or any trial admin can mean loss of admin
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Yarou on October 26, 2011, 12:32:06 AM: Quote from: ELBdelorean on October 25, 2011, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: Yarou on October 25, 2011, 10:39:30 PM
Quote from: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on October 25, 2011, 10:09:26 PM
Quote from: Dinomoto on October 25, 2011, 09:39:01 PM
Quote
I believe people should be given a second chance

Why yes, but its his FOURTH app.

And this is your 3000th pointless post -.-

3622th*

Three thousand six hundred and twenty-twoeth?

well play'd.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Sir Willis on October 26, 2011, 12:33:15 AM: Give him a chance at admin. If he doesn't do well, if he's a stuck up admin who thinks he's better than others, or gets an admin abuse claim filed against him...then take it away.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Old Crow on October 26, 2011, 12:56:44 AM: Quote from: Sir Willis on October 26, 2011, 12:33:15 AM
Give him a chance at admin. If he doesn't do well, if he's a stuck up admin who thinks he's better than others, or gets an admin abuse claim filed against him...then take it away.

Bam This
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Jorgen on October 26, 2011, 06:44:29 AM: Being an admin is not something every1 has the right to be, it is something you earn the right to be.
Your thought pattern being, he hasn't done that much bullshit lately so by that he should totally be an admin, I mean I was reckless before I was an admin, but it took quite a while for me to go from trolling to admin. I mean the last time he was banned is not that long ago and the last denied app is an even shorter amount of time since, we are talking weeks not months. If your gonna go from trolling to admin at least let some months pass by to see that this person is actually stabile. I mean this person has been banned repeatedly for karma ban, and I don't know if it is more than once but also revenge RDM which directly shows a lack of maturity.

Even the first time I played in which Squeak was just watching as I got revenge RDMed every round (I think it a total of 5 rounds), I did not do the same back, I simply logged off the server and told Wholegrain what a shit server he had and that I'd like to help him keep it clean because the personnel he had at the time was just retarded.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Old Crow on October 26, 2011, 01:59:07 PM: You do have a good point jorgen. The app was made a little too fast after the last one. He has showed to be a more mature player over the past month or so and that's why I think he would make a good admin. I propose however that we delay the final outcome by two weeks. Most of the people here approve but I see the other side of the coin as well. Delay it to allow for more observation, to see if he is ready and has thrown his bad habits out.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Jorgen on October 26, 2011, 02:40:44 PM: Quote from: Old Crow on October 26, 2011, 01:59:07 PM
You do have a good point jorgen. The app was made a little too fast after the last one. He has showed to be a more mature player over the past month or so and that's why I think he would make a good admin. I propose however that we delay the final outcome by two weeks. Most of the people here approve but I see the other side of the coin as well. Delay it to allow for more observation, to see if he is ready and has thrown his bad habits out.
yaay we agree now =P
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Shikaru on October 26, 2011, 02:49:32 PM: i've only been banned once for karma ban... idk where u get all these other bans from
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Jorgen on October 26, 2011, 03:06:48 PM: http://www.conjointgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0%3A1%3A15759372&Submit=
2 bans on the sourcebans that we removed 5 months ago, more after that but I can't give out that info.
Now stop lying or that will only prove my point that you are not mature enough for admin.
http://www.google.no/#q=STEAM_0:1:15759372&hl=no&prmd=imvns&ei=TEGoTvjbNseg4gTzy8wE&sqi=2&start=10&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=5c308c5690acd6e9&biw=1024&bih=382
this, I rest my case.
what this shows is the large amount of bans he has everywhere, now would you really think some1 who gets banned this much is fit for admin?

Don't get me wrong I don't hate him, but he really does not cut it for an admin.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Dinomoto on October 26, 2011, 03:23:40 PM: Quote from: Shikaru on October 26, 2011, 02:49:32 PM
i've only been banned once for karma ban... idk where u get all these other bans from

I lol'd
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: Cadaver on October 26, 2011, 03:45:35 PM: Sigh.

Ok. Here is the deal: Being an Admin is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT. The want has to be towards bettering the game play and the community, not for the power hungry.

In addition, the person who wants to be an Admin, must have a good reputation with the specific community, and within the "gaming community" as a whole.

My issues:
1) Multiple bans for server rule violations. (Although you seem to have quit doing so in the past month or so.)

2) Multiple bans from other communities (including a probable permaban for wearing a clan tag of a clan you were not a member of, last month)

3) NOT abiding by my request to WAIT 3 MONTHS until reapplying (you are a month early.)

So. No.

Have issue with that? See me in Vent.
Title: Re: TTT Admin App
Post by: TowerSheep on October 26, 2011, 04:05:57 PM: After thinking about it and listening to what people have said. I did some research.

*DENIED*
Please do NOT apply again.

Denied for the following reasons:
1. I told you to be more active on the fourms ON YOUR LAST APP - 17/41 of your current posts are from past and current admin apps about you. That's 41% of your posts from admin apps.
2. You do not own up to your mistakes - Admins can make mistakes if they admit to them and fix or make it up to the party who was wronged. On this thread you said you were only banned once for karma and Jorgen was wrong about the other bans. I can find 2 just on SB, I know I'd find at least 1 more if I went through the admin command log (yeah, I can tell who banned you and when). I put your previous post below in case you decide to delete or edit it.
3. You did not wait 3 months AS REQUESTED BY A CL - The CL's are you bosses in a sense, so if you can't listen to them before you are an admin, why should I trust you with power?

Quote from: Shikaru on October 26, 2011, 02:49:32 PM
i've only been banned once for karma ban... idk where u get all these other bans from