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CG Main => Debate Forum => Topic started by: Mindtrixx on February 03, 2011, 05:19:05 AM
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Btw this is a serious topic thingy dont be an ass and say yes or no 'for the lolz' THINK ABOUT IT.
i made this becuz of the censorship topic thingy, to see if anyone is actually offended by this. Also i was thinking of toggle for the censorship. :\
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Mindtrixx, the issue does not revolve around the number of people being offended by this word. The issue revolves around what we are as a community. If we are aiming at being respectful of people, everything else aside, then we cannot, IMO, let this word circulate freely, even if we ourselves find to problem with it.
I see no polls asking about how many people feel offended by the N word. Why? Because people immediately grasp that it represents something horrible. I want people to grasp the same thing when it comes down to the word ****got.
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Mindtrixx, the issue does not revolve around the number of people being offended by this word. The issue revolves around what we are as a community. If we are aiming at being respectful of people, everything else aside, then we cannot, IMO, let this word circulate freely, even if we ourselves find to problem with it.
I see no polls asking about how many people feel offended by the N word. Why? Because people immediately grasp that it represents something horrible. I want people to grasp the same thing when it comes down to the word ****got.
The problem with that is that it isn't something horrible. Its only horrible because we as a society perpetuate it and make it horrible. Its merely a word, it doesn't have any more meaning than you put into it. Its like, if we started to make 'Doody shitballs mclongcock' into something terrible like that, it would get black listed because 'its a terrible word'. I'd rather be a community of well spoken individuals who can express themselves freely without having to deal with the dilemma of censorship. Thats a much more friendly community, one where you can post what you wanna say, when you wanna say, rather than having to watch your p's and q's because it may not be 'nice'.
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I think it's an offensive word, yes. Do I get offended myself? Sort of.
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1 The problem with that is that it isn't something horrible. Its only horrible because we as a society perpetuate it and make it horrible. Its merely a word, it doesn't have any more meaning than you put into it. Its like, if we started to make 'Doody shitballs mclongcock' into something terrible like that, it would get black listed because 'its a terrible word'.
2. I'd rather be a community of well spoken individuals who can express themselves freely without having to deal with the dilemma of censorship. Thats a much more friendly community, one where you can post what you wanna say, when you wanna say, rather than having to watch your p's and q's because it may not be 'nice'.
1. The internet (our means of communication) is using it as a slur for gays. We are calling them gay to be offensive. That is how it became an insult, thus, it is what we (the internet community) have put into the word. You may use it differently, but meaning is 25% of how it comes across. The other 75% is how the received understand the word.
2. If you are well spoken don't you already avoid words that are insulting? All the well spoked people I know don't even say shit. They don't have to mind their p's and q's because they do it without thought. Makes sense that we should have rules on what cannot be said, for those who are not as well spoken. Also, this is the internet and a "friendly" community. We need something to maintain that friendly image. If we say no censorship, what separates us from 4chan? Our name... but people would be able to post as they pleased.
Personally: I think the word is annoying, not offensive. It's just another insult to me, but I know it offends a lot of homosexuals.
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Do I get offended? No, but the word **** is rather harsh sounding to me.
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1 The problem with that is that it isn't something horrible. Its only horrible because we as a society perpetuate it and make it horrible. Its merely a word, it doesn't have any more meaning than you put into it. Its like, if we started to make 'Doody shitballs mclongcock' into something terrible like that, it would get black listed because 'its a terrible word'.
2. I'd rather be a community of well spoken individuals who can express themselves freely without having to deal with the dilemma of censorship. Thats a much more friendly community, one where you can post what you wanna say, when you wanna say, rather than having to watch your p's and q's because it may not be 'nice'.
1. The internet (our means of communication) is using it as a slur for gays. We are calling them gay to be offensive. That is how it became an insult, thus, it is what we (the internet community) have put into the word. You may use it differently, but meaning is 25% of how it comes across. The other 75% is how the received understand the word.
2. If you are well spoken don't you already avoid words that are insulting? All the well spoked people I know don't even say shit. They don't have to mind their p's and q's because they do it without thought. Makes sense that we should have rules on what cannot be said, for those who are not as well spoken. Also, this is the internet and a "friendly" community. We need something to maintain that friendly image. If we say no censorship, what separates us from 4chan? Our name... but people would be able to post as they pleased.
Personally: I think the word is annoying, not offensive. It's just another insult to me, but I know it offends a lot of homosexuals.
lies, you cannot know what goes on in other people's heads.
Anyways again i would like a censorship toggle cuase some people dont think its a problem and with this forced censorship i feel like im having my choices cut.
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Mindtrixx, the issue does not revolve around the number of people being offended by this word.
This. No single word would ever offend me, really. But that's not the point. The point is that it turns other humans into something less than human. This is prejudice. Prejudice is not only irrational but also, more often than you'd think, the direct cause of murder or suicide.
Quod erat demonstratum, bishez.
Having said that, I still drop it sometimes, despite trying to cut back.
Off the top of my head, f*gg*t and n*gg*r are the only cusses that are strictly prejudiced.
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In fact, I'd go so far as to say f*gg*t is more offensive than n*gg*r when directed at anyone not black. You're calling someone a deep personal attribute that the person can't prove into question.
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Take your ignorant platitudes somewhere else.
The word, in essence, is a SOUND. It's all about how you perceive the verbal transmission. You can regard it as invective and be offended by it, or you could interpret it as the onomatopoeic representation of your dick slapping a hard surface.
Honesty, guys; some people in the LGBT community utilize this word. Colloquialism, not slander.
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1 The problem with that is that it isn't something horrible. Its only horrible because we as a society perpetuate it and make it horrible. Its merely a word, it doesn't have any more meaning than you put into it. Its like, if we started to make 'Doody shitballs mclongcock' into something terrible like that, it would get black listed because 'its a terrible word'.
2. I'd rather be a community of well spoken individuals who can express themselves freely without having to deal with the dilemma of censorship. Thats a much more friendly community, one where you can post what you wanna say, when you wanna say, rather than having to watch your p's and q's because it may not be 'nice'.
1. The internet (our means of communication) is using it as a slur for gays. We are calling them gay to be offensive. That is how it became an insult, thus, it is what we (the internet community) have put into the word. You may use it differently, but meaning is 25% of how it comes across. The other 75% is how the received understand the word.
2. If you are well spoken don't you already avoid words that are insulting? All the well spoked people I know don't even say shit. They don't have to mind their p's and q's because they do it without thought. Makes sense that we should have rules on what cannot be said, for those who are not as well spoken. Also, this is the internet and a "friendly" community. We need something to maintain that friendly image. If we say no censorship, what separates us from 4chan? Our name... but people would be able to post as they pleased.
Personally: I think the word is annoying, not offensive. It's just another insult to me, but I know it offends a lot of homosexuals.
lies, you cannot know what goes on in other people's heads.
Anyways again i would like a censorship toggle cuase some people dont think its a problem and with this forced censorship i feel like im having my choices cut.
Go gain 190lbs and let someone call you a Fat fuck who does nothing but waste space and tell me if you don't get offended by that...
Wholegrain needs to stop letting the community decide what's right and wrong. Whatever he sees fit works better than all of you whining trying to see who can come up with a better excuse on why the term f*gg*t isn't offensive.
Take your ignorant platitudes somewhere else.
The word, in essence, is a SOUND. It's all about how you perceive the verbal transmission. You can regard it as invective and be offended by it, or you could interpret it as the onomatopoeic representation of your dick slapping a hard surface.
Honesty, guys; some people in the LGBT community utilize this word. Colloquialism, not slander.
Hey now, watch where you throw those mighty big words around, you might offend someone who doesn't know the meaning of them.
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ITT, the word PLATITUDES.
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honestly i don't see the issue. I know gay or bi people that still use the word ****got as an insult. If you chose to see it as talking about your own sexuality that's your own fault. And if you have no probs with different sexuality then it shouldn't be an insult to you. Like me saying to someone you fucking straight. If you chose to see being straight as something bad its not my fault its yours.
Its just an insult/swear like any other.
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1 The problem with that is that it isn't something horrible. Its only horrible because we as a society perpetuate it and make it horrible. Its merely a word, it doesn't have any more meaning than you put into it. Its like, if we started to make 'Doody shitballs mclongcock' into something terrible like that, it would get black listed because 'its a terrible word'.
2. I'd rather be a community of well spoken individuals who can express themselves freely without having to deal with the dilemma of censorship. Thats a much more friendly community, one where you can post what you wanna say, when you wanna say, rather than having to watch your p's and q's because it may not be 'nice'.
1. The internet (our means of communication) is using it as a slur for gays. We are calling them gay to be offensive. That is how it became an insult, thus, it is what we (the internet community) have put into the word. You may use it differently, but meaning is 25% of how it comes across. The other 75% is how the received understand the word.
2. If you are well spoken don't you already avoid words that are insulting? All the well spoked people I know don't even say shit. They don't have to mind their p's and q's because they do it without thought. Makes sense that we should have rules on what cannot be said, for those who are not as well spoken. Also, this is the internet and a "friendly" community. We need something to maintain that friendly image. If we say no censorship, what separates us from 4chan? Our name... but people would be able to post as they pleased.
Personally: I think the word is annoying, not offensive. It's just another insult to me, but I know it offends a lot of homosexuals.
lies, you cannot know what goes on in other people's heads.
Anyways again i would like a censorship toggle cuase some people dont think its a problem and with this forced censorship i feel like im having my choices cut.
Go gain 190lbs and let someone call you a Fat fuck who does nothing but waste space and tell me if you don't get offended by that...
Wholegrain needs to stop letting the community decide what's right and wrong. Whatever he sees fit works better than all of you whining trying to see who can come up with a better excuse on why the term f*gg*t isn't offensive.
Take your ignorant platitudes somewhere else.
The word, in essence, is a SOUND. It's all about how you perceive the verbal transmission. You can regard it as invective and be offended by it, or you could interpret it as the onomatopoeic representation of your dick slapping a hard surface.
Honesty, guys; some people in the LGBT community utilize this word. Colloquialism, not slander.
Hey now, watch where you throw those mighty big words around, you might offend someone who doesn't know the meaning of them.
Really dude? your a dick.
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Really dude? your a dick.
No, I'm not. I'm simply stating the truth. Wholegrain should stop letting the community decide on whether or not they find the word offensive.
You might hate the word, but the someone like Kwaurtz will come around and call his friends a ****got just because he can. It's not the fact that I'm trying to be a prick, it's the fact that if it was up to us, we'd probably fuck up the entire community.
I don't take offense to it unless someone uses it in an offensive way, therefore I could care less.
But Someone who will take it to the next level and despises anyone who even thinks about saying it will be offended... You have to think about the community as a whole, and try not to be selfish in the process. "Well, I really like using the word...we might as well keep it". No, you can't do that... It's not fair and Heaven forbid if you need to have a word taken away in order to keep the community together.
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Really dude? your a dick.
No, I'm not. I'm simply stating the truth. Wholegrain should stop letting the community decide on whether or not they find the word offensive.
You might hate the word, but the someone like Kwaurtz will come around and call his friends a ****got just because he can. It's not the fact that I'm trying to be a prick, it's the fact that if it was up to us, we'd probably fuck up the entire community.
I don't take offense to it unless someone uses it in an offensive way, therefore I could care less.
But Someone who will take it to the next level and despises anyone who even thinks about saying it will be offended... You have to think about the community as a whole, and try not to be selfish in the process. "Well, I really like using the word...we might as well keep it". No, you can't do that... It's not fair and Heaven forbid if you need to have a word taken away in order to keep the community together.
YOU CONTRIDICTED YOURSELF SIR! "Wholegrain should stop letting the community decide on whether or not they find the word offensive." and then you said "You have to think about the community as a whole, and try not to be selfish in the process."
The community voted no, meaning its not just me being selfish. Thinking about the community is why i made this.
You are not making sense dude.