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Title: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Hells Angels on January 30, 2011, 03:16:01 PM
I wanna see peoples opinion on what they DO like and what they DONT like about the server. hopefully if wholegrain or another admin reads this then they can possibly fix some of the DONTs
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Wholegrain on January 30, 2011, 03:59:45 PM
^ agree and think is a good idea

i already know alot of things need fixing up but our coder isn't interested and hasn't really been active lately so dunno

waiting for our 2nd coder to come in because he would be more willing to code for darkrp and frees up ducky to code for other things he enjoys more
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Travis on January 30, 2011, 04:05:17 PM
>Hates Wiremod
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: arnold on January 30, 2011, 04:07:09 PM
wiremods helpful i like it
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Blood on January 30, 2011, 04:09:24 PM
^is jealous cuz he doesnt know how to use it


Pros: Cool people that know how to RP
Cons: Wholegrain last night when you went afk people went crazy and started rdming,prop killing,prop blocking,etc until mindtrixx called me onto the server, so in other words we need more admins.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Scotty on January 30, 2011, 05:04:05 PM
^agree
we really do need more admins whenever an admin isnt on everyone turns and becomes killers
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Ducky on January 30, 2011, 05:08:57 PM
Con: There is no actual RP.
        The only way to make money is drugs and guns.
       
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Holy on January 30, 2011, 05:14:07 PM
Pros:
-Good rules and good tools.
Cons:
-Can't furnish your house/business with props.
-Wiremod is useless without props to wire with.
-Can't use the door tool.
-Some of the admin only wire tools such as: Thrusters, forcers, vector thrustors, e2, ect... are really not that big of a deal and should be respected instead. If you wish to argue this, gun dealer is for everyone and they sell weapons that kill. Forcers/e2 are helpful when making auto gunshops in buildings.
-Due to lack of non-combat alternatives (such as building or furnishing) or encouragement to be a cook or bartender, RDM is more likely to happen.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Kwaurtz on January 30, 2011, 05:26:40 PM
We don't have hunger mod anymore. We have jackasses who don't actually try to rp within our community. The only thing people do is shoot one another or use drugs.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Scotty on January 30, 2011, 05:39:19 PM
^ hes right especially whenever theirs no admin on its rdm we've got to get something so that everyone doesnt rdm
con: need new map
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Wholegrain on January 30, 2011, 06:43:37 PM
We need a more dedicated player base nobody in CG really is dedicated enough or cares enough to start up the server


all of these problems are known but we are lacking a few admins and its perpetuating

you dont start up server and admins dont play on server they dont get added to admin players dont  come to server cause of rdm which means less players which means CG members dont want to play on it because they are loosely dedicated which means nobody wants to apply for admin or start it up and our coder doesnt want to work on it its bugged glitched and fucked and im waiting really for vincent to rub his magic against the rp server when he gets free

pretty much how i feel right now is basically pissed and disappointed

if server is over 15 people i couldnt give less of a fuck if you are there
if it is under 15 people the server pretty much needs a few people to help get it to that point where it reaches a threshold where alot more players join and then stay and it gets full


i want to add lucifer and arnold but both are inactive


Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Patty Cakes on January 30, 2011, 06:58:29 PM
^agree
we really do need more admins whenever an admin isnt on everyone turns and becomes killers
D: YES. Everyone keeps pressing all of people's buttons and won't stop on the ZPS deathrun maps. And then there are people playing music on mics. Ugh
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: AlphaWeeaboo on January 30, 2011, 07:26:06 PM
Perhaps we need to have our admins be more strict on Dark RP until we get more or people stop being idiots.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Bloody Mion on January 30, 2011, 07:30:49 PM
Perhaps some admins need to be given their powers.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Scotty on January 30, 2011, 08:46:47 PM
well i would start up the server like i used to do but ive said this before i just got a new laptop and need external hard drive for games so it well be a while before i can really really help but as soon as i get an external hard drive i well work my ass off to populate the server. (sorry i cant be of much help for the nxt little while)

and btw just because ur not an admin on the server and dont have powers does NOT mean that u cant still keep order and justice in the server, whenever the server is getting out of hand with rdm and just bullshit then go onto vent for a quick sec and serch for an available admin, considering its the admins responsiblite to respond to a problem in the server it shouldnt be hard to find someone, okay i think its more just that people dont care and dont want to deal with the bullshit and problems okay look its ur dam job so get off ur ass and do ur part or what are u really doing posting that app for admin. (i know for a fact their are some very hard working admins though so im not talking about everyone, u know who u are). just 15 minutes on the server would help populate.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: TowerSheep on January 30, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
FORMAL OFFER: If you would like I would step down from TTT admin and learn DarkRP. I'm a quick study and I'm on a lot, so I could be a frequent admin. I'm almost always on steam, so even if I'm not playing and they need an admin I'll be reached easily.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Wholegrain on January 30, 2011, 09:46:10 PM
its not so much as stepping down as transferring over

one thing that it definitely requires is good common sense and knowing the rules and having a cool head



i want to see you a bit on the server and sure you'll get admin just play on it a bit
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: TowerSheep on January 30, 2011, 10:56:17 PM
Alrighty, I was away for the weekend but I'll be on more this week.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Hells Angels on January 31, 2011, 12:32:11 AM
In my personal preference. i think we should not make E2 an admin only tool. but make it to where NOONE can use it.. not even head admins..
pros: Fun, entertaining, friendly admins and people, not that much RDM, propblocking, and prop-killing.
Cons: Some RDM, propblocking, and prop-killing, radio abuse, ownable PD doors, not much RP(never really is much RP in a RP server on Gmod), and people tend to pres no on votes... ALOT
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Mindtrixx on January 31, 2011, 01:16:37 AM
Perhaps some admins need to be given their powers.
Yeah that would be nice.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Holy on January 31, 2011, 03:31:56 AM
If you guys need me for admin on the server I'd be glad to again. I'd have to find time between school work and my band but I can devote a few hours a week for sure when I need a break from studying.

With over 900 hours on gmod (70%+ being on roleplay) I am sure I can do a good job in holding the server down while on.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Dante on January 31, 2011, 02:20:39 PM
I dont even know how to use the radio.  :'(
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: slimd1995 on January 31, 2011, 10:02:59 PM
Pro: Entertaining, casual, friendly admins
Cons: Police Department is fucked up.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Scotty on February 01, 2011, 10:39:08 PM
pros: its great and fun when an admin is on cause theirs not much rdm, prop blocking, people  following rules better when admin on
con:when no admins on server sometimes gets out of hand with propblocking and rdm and prop killing and yes the jail needs to be fixed cause theirs the 2 front doors that dont say anything and noone can lock or unlock sometimes and sometimes it does say police and mayor only or something and the police and mayor can only lock and unlock and then theirs one jail door the first cell that doesnt have a name it can be bought by anyone and so unlocked by anyone so it needs a name and made so only police and mayor have acess to lock and unlock.
other than that its doing very good, people enjoy the server alot and it seems its brought in ALOT more people into the community slimd is new nice to see u active slimd and so far ive seen an increase of the amount of memebers here so ya so far its doing great

OH and i wanted to say i noticed we seemed to have a problem with the vent server the other day as in not having very many slots i think we need to increase it something like 32 or something so that we dont have that much of a problem with that.
and i also ask that when u are in game on any server that u are in vent especially if u are admin so that if ur help is needed u are contactable more easily and if ur online but not playing any games say ur studying or something but have ur computer on i still would like u to be on vent if ur admin so that if someone ever needs ur help u contactable, thats all i ask.

(tell me what u think about that wholegrain i was thinking we should make it almost madatory that if ur online ur on vent so that ur always contactable)
(and yes im probably going to assume we've tryed this before so i suggest i know this would be a bit strict but if ur in game and not in vent ya we can remind u for a while but if it becomes a habbit that we have to remind u to go on vent then we warn u that if u dont start going on vent (without our reminders) u well be suspended without ur admin powers for 1 day and 2nd time 1 week and 3rd time one month and the forth u lose ur admin powers. what do u think wholegrain) just so we can always contorl the rdm, abuse, prop killing, prop blocking, and racism and all that and of course all the other things in ttt, zps and etc)

ps:sorry about the length lol
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Whitellama on February 02, 2011, 12:50:22 PM
if server is over 15 people i couldnt give less of a fuck if you are there
if it is under 15 people the server pretty much needs a few people to help get it to that point where it reaches a threshold where alot more players join and then stay and it gets full
Yeah, I was playing for quite a while last night, and at one point literally EVERYONE but me and mindtrixx were afk. We roleplayed for a while, even during the great afk crisis, but then we both just got bored and left. This was with 7 players on. I'm surprised not one more joined. (And it wasn't like we joined when they were afk, but we were playing and one by one players had to do something.)

And while E2 should be a respected tool, I am curious about restrictions. As we all know, knowing how to work E2 essentially gives you the hands of a god, and there are ways to abuse it. (Or, some people just say, E2 is allowed for them so they can do what they want with it...) But I've seen teleporters and I've seen these things called "Fairies" that will rape whoever tries to kill you. These are only two examples, definitely not adding to RP, so there should be certain restrictions. However, there are beneficial things. Like running an automatic shop like someone said, or creating a drug-sniffer/printer-hunter. (Whether those two are allowed is debatable, maybe for Police force only or something.)
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Scotty on February 02, 2011, 10:15:34 PM
YA if the police had some blood hounds (u know what i mean lol) that would be really kool and i think help attarct people to our server BUT if we did that all i have to say is first we need a limit of 8 police and second people would have to stop saying NO to people just because u dont know them and their new and they kinda want to see the dogs or what ever, but ya especially dogs for the lockdown to make sure the streets are clear u know good idea lamma :D
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: DrOctapu on February 08, 2011, 08:05:41 PM
Pros: Often times you get a lot of cool people.
Cons: Prop blocking, prop killing, people can copy others' names, needs votekicking.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Zukuto on February 09, 2011, 02:45:32 AM
I'm new to the forums, but I've spent plenty of time in the server. Here's my take on the Pro's and Con's

Pros:
Great Mods
Wire mod is awesome
CG Admins are good
Jobs are beautifully done

Cons:
Not enough props(15 is too low, maybe like 50)
The admins are great, but there needs to be more on
Some things should be unblocked, like wire thrusters
I think there should be some type of Respected status, so good players get rewarded


Theres MUCH more I could list, but this is a more generic list,
the server is amazing, but It could use a little bit of improvement.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Dinomoto on February 09, 2011, 06:57:42 AM
Quote
I think there should be some type of Respected status, so good players get rewarded


We did think about getting a respected status, but we decided not to in the end.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Zukuto on February 09, 2011, 05:19:30 PM
Quote
I think there should be some type of Respected status, so good players get rewarded


We did think about getting a respected status, but we decided not to in the end.

Why? I think it's a great idea, maybe so many playing hours and you get rewarded. Just so people can have more fun building and RP'ing. AND you can also block alot of things so greifers don't ruin the server.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Wholegrain on February 09, 2011, 05:47:29 PM
Quote
I think there should be some type of Respected status, so good players get rewarded


We did think about getting a respected status, but we decided not to in the end.

we are actually just a bit later on
maybe 2 status
respected and donor respected gets access to a few more things and donor gets access to even more things and more props etc.....
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Zukuto on February 09, 2011, 09:40:27 PM
Quote
I think there should be some type of Respected status, so good players get rewarded


We did think about getting a respected status, but we decided not to in the end.

we are actually just a bit later on
maybe 2 status
respected and donor respected gets access to a few more things and donor gets access to even more things and more props etc.....

Awesome! If you need any help just PM me, I've owned an ran many servers, including G-Mod, and can help with Lua scripting if needed :D
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Polygraph on February 13, 2011, 04:35:33 AM
Pros:  Radio Broadcaster.   trollface
Mostly cool people.

Cons:  Drug Prices.  375 for some rock?  C'MON, MAN. (At least make them shipments)
No votekicking. 
No admins on ever.  EVER.
E2.  Fairy protectors are bullshit.
WAY too much RDM.  Solved by votekicking.
Prop-killing/blocking, also  would be solved if we had votekicking.
People vote "No" for EVERYONE if they're someone they don't recognise.

Really, most of these cons would be solved if we had active admins.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Scotty on February 13, 2011, 05:10:37 AM
^we do not have votekicking because if we did then people would just rage and vote yes and yes we are trying to somehow get people to stop pressing no and say yes :D
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Polygraph on February 13, 2011, 05:36:21 AM
^we do not have votekicking because if we did then people would just rage and vote yes and yes we are trying to somehow get people to stop pressing no and say yes :D

THEN I ISSUE AN ULTIMATUM.
Get more active admins or votekicking. 

I can't really think of anything else to deal with minges.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Scotty on February 13, 2011, 05:56:18 AM
^we are currently in the process of recruiting more dark rp admins okay now if u wish to help more why dont u apply for admin ur self plz and thank u :D now have a great night i gtg peace :D
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Polygraph on February 14, 2011, 01:52:02 AM
^we are currently in the process of recruiting more dark rp admins okay now if u wish to help more why dont u apply for admin ur self plz and thank u :D now have a great night i gtg peace :D

I'm 14.  If Wholegrain didn't accept whitellama and blackllama, he won't accept me.
And I don't have a high post count, I DON'T KNOW HOW2VENT (so I don't know many people), etc., despite my unbiasedness in judgement, I'm often on the server, but whatever.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: FearlessThor on February 14, 2011, 02:13:14 AM
RP fucking sucks all you do is run around and buy things. wtf? gansters cant do anything fun cause RDM wtf ya RP fucking sucks and people bitch its lags a lot and their are to many rules that fuck shit up
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Polygraph on February 14, 2011, 02:37:20 AM
RP fucking sucks all you do is run around and buy things. wtf? gansters cant do anything fun cause RDM wtf ya RP fucking sucks and people bitch its lags a lot and their are to many rules that fuck shit up

TTT fucking sucks all you do is run around in paranoid fear and buy things. wtf? terrorists cant do anything fun cause RDM and traitors and detectives wtf ya TTT fucking sucks and people bitch about RP its lags a lot and their are to many rules that fuck shit up

 trollface
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: FearlessThor on February 14, 2011, 03:08:59 AM
your cool bro didn't fucking say TTT was any better.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Scotty on February 14, 2011, 03:38:10 AM
^lol  :P
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: myLord on February 14, 2011, 07:57:03 PM
Weener...

I like RP, but sometimes it's a little hard to keep people under control. :/
More admins, and not only that, but more capable admins would be coool.
It's hard to stop someone from propblocking without kicking them, which in my mind is dumb because it's easier to just remove the prop..which only a select few can do.
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Bjork on February 14, 2011, 08:06:13 PM
Pro - Its CG

Con - Its Dark Minge rp

I wan't proper rp server  :(
Title: Re: Pros and Cons of CG DarkRP
Post by: Polygraph on February 14, 2011, 09:22:12 PM
Weener...

I like RP, but sometimes it's a little hard to keep people under control. :/
More admins, and not only that, but more capable admins would be coool.
It's hard to stop someone from propblocking without kicking them, which in my mind is dumb because it's easier to just remove the prop..which only a select few can do.

I blame the age limit.

I mean, we have the Trial Admins for a reason, meaning they're not permanent.  A thirteen year old could be a trial admin and be very mature and responsible about it, then some other thirteen year old might abuse to no end.  It just varies on the person.
I've seen seventeen year old admins be super abusive while there were younger admins doing the right thing.  Age doesn't matter.
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