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Title: Phantox Hacking*NOT BANNED*
Post by: Biohazard on October 14, 2010, 09:48:20 PM
YOUR in game name EXACTLY!: -_^B!OhAzArD#

the exact name of the person you are requesting a ban at the time they were on the server: [<3Megan]Phantox

What were they doing: Hacking

Which server was it: TTT

What time/day was it (include timezone if possible): 8:35 EST 10-13-10

Additional Notes: Video below.
I have seen him disappear like this before, but I ignored it thinking he just lagged or something, but then I had a little issue with Phantox RDMing me, so at the start of the round I started recording. Then, all of a sudden, he magically disappears, and now I have it on video. Please, watch the video in 1080P so you can see that there was no teleporter used, and no mark was left on the ground. After I die you see me bring up the scoreboard, that shows that there were no connection issues at the time. In fact, his ping was 43, and mine was 28. There was no video lag or lag on my screen either. he jsut disappears, then reappears behind me even though there was no one there. Oh, and he didn't die either.



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Phantox Hacks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCt27NwzbKc#)

Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Jorgen on October 14, 2010, 10:16:24 PM
yes what the hell was that lol
what just happened? also is there really a hacking thing that teleports you at all?
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Remscar on October 14, 2010, 10:43:20 PM
That was really weird. I have never seen people disappear like that.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: AlphaWeeaboo on October 14, 2010, 10:45:41 PM
Yeah, that is just plain out weird. I kinda doubt it's a hack cause I'm sure they don't have anything like that. Just weird.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Alzine on October 14, 2010, 10:47:03 PM
i know its off topic but ive been getting complaints of phantox rdming when no admins are on.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Biohazard on October 14, 2010, 11:15:39 PM
i know its off topic but ive been getting complaints of phantox rdming when no admins are on.

This is true, I was on a little bit ago, and as soon as Remscar left, Phantox went on an RDMing spree. For 2 round he went RDming and killed about 4-5 innocents total, his karma got to around 500 but then the map changed before i could screenshot it. But he does this all the time, when there are no admins on he trolls and RDM'd on purpose. I had to kill him several times for shooting me for absolutely no reason.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: FearlessThor on October 14, 2010, 11:48:51 PM
haha wtf that was weird
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Remscar on October 15, 2010, 01:23:09 AM
Its lagg or something. Similar things have happened to me.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Snak on October 15, 2010, 01:25:24 AM
I hate to stick up for Phantox, but he doesn't hack. He doe's everything else, but even he woulden't steep to hacking.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Dinomoto on October 15, 2010, 05:31:32 AM
I hate to stick up for Phantox, but he doesn't hack. He doe's everything else, but even he woulden't steep to hacking.

or would he..... dun dun dun
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: AlphaWeeaboo on October 15, 2010, 09:47:17 AM
I hate to stick up for Phantox, but he doesn't hack. He doe's everything else, but even he woulden't steep to hacking.
Exactly my thoughts. Something must be up with connection or something.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Dinomoto on October 15, 2010, 09:55:03 AM
I hate to stick up for Phantox, but he doesn't hack. He doe's everything else, but even he woulden't steep to hacking.
Exactly my thoughts. Something must be up with connection or something.

or not dun dun dun
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Jorgen on October 15, 2010, 11:10:50 AM
also did you have to make everything all blue and shit? DX
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: FearlessThor on October 15, 2010, 12:02:57 PM
like rebel dont like phantox but am 90% sure he didn't hack
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Biohazard on October 15, 2010, 12:51:56 PM
also did you have to make everything all blue and shit? DX

It's called a water mark, and no, I can't get rid of it.

That was really weird. I have never seen people disappear like that.

Its lagg or something. Similar things have happened to me.

Wait, what?
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Dante on October 15, 2010, 01:18:00 PM
also did you have to make everything all blue and shit? DX

It's called a water mark, and no, I can't get rid of it.

That was really weird. I have never seen people disappear like that.

Its lagg or something. Similar things have happened to me.

Wait, what?
Its lag my good sir i saw it happen on CSS zombie maps so zombies could get in a baracaded room they make it so they can lag then teleport or move through the wall. (This is my asumption but when i get home i will be able to tell better.)
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Kwaurtz on October 15, 2010, 02:01:52 PM
also did you have to make everything all blue and shit? DX

It's called a water mark, and no, I can't get rid of it.

That was really weird. I have never seen people disappear like that.

Its lagg or something. Similar things have happened to me.

Wait, what?
Its lag my good sir i saw it happen on CSS zombie maps so zombies could get in a baracaded room they make it so they can lag then teleport or move through the wall. (This is my asumption but when i get home i will be able to tell better.)

I've seen people induce lag to get into the armory on onesmallshamble.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Pillz on October 15, 2010, 02:10:22 PM
How come they always happen to lag at those dire moments... >.>

I think it should be against the rules anyway, their lag problem creates an unfair advantage, or disadvantage for them, either way making it unfair. Plus, people have a problem with him anyway.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Dante on October 15, 2010, 04:42:33 PM
How come they always happen to lag at those dire moments... >.>

I think it should be against the rules anyway, their lag problem creates an unfair advantage, or disadvantage for them, either way making it unfair. Plus, people have a problem with him anyway.
YAH! WE SHOULD BAN LAGG!
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: AlphaWeeaboo on October 15, 2010, 09:36:59 PM
also did you have to make everything all blue and shit? DX

It's called a water mark, and no, I can't get rid of it.

That was really weird. I have never seen people disappear like that.

Its lagg or something. Similar things have happened to me.

Wait, what?
Its lag my good sir i saw it happen on CSS zombie maps so zombies could get in a baracaded room they make it so they can lag then teleport or move through the wall. (This is my asumption but when i get home i will be able to tell better.)

I've seen people induce lag to get into the armory on onesmallshamble.
Little off topic but that's not lag my friend. Well, perhaps it is but certainly not induced. I have done it before. Me and Pixel were running against the window crowbarring it when I started getting real slidey and I slid right though the window.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Billy on October 16, 2010, 12:03:33 AM
I know we're trying to be fair and all, but..

Are we really not going to ban Phantox?  frogface
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Snak on October 16, 2010, 12:44:20 AM
I know we're trying to be fair and all, but..

Are we really not going to ban Phantox?  frogface

Ironically, I've grown to like him, and enjoy his company.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Dinomoto on October 16, 2010, 12:11:43 PM
I know we're trying to be fair and all, but..

Are we really not going to ban Phantox?  frogface

Ironically, I've grown to like him, and enjoy his company.

Well Rebels gone insane
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Jorgen on October 16, 2010, 02:40:35 PM
jupp next thing we know him and remscar is having sex in the back of a black coloured SUV
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Alzine on October 16, 2010, 08:02:19 PM
Back on topic. i've been getting complaints via steam messages theat phantox has been rdming when there are no admins on..... the odd part is that im getting them when im not on the server,,,while no phantox doesn't hack he has rdm'ed in the past and is apparently doin it alot now.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: AlphaWeeaboo on October 16, 2010, 08:09:55 PM
This is about hacking not RDM.
Also, he has reported RDMers to me when the server was in chaos.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Phantox on October 16, 2010, 08:47:28 PM
Hacking? Really?

There's a difference between hacking and lag. Also, teleport hacks? How obvious and stupid would that be? If you know me, you would know that I always buy the teleporter as a traitor and detective so why would I need a 'teleporting' hack?
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Biohazard on October 17, 2010, 12:20:26 AM
Hacking? Really?

There's a difference between hacking and lag. Also, teleport hacks? How obvious and stupid would that be? If you know me, you would know that I always buy the teleporter as a traitor and detective so why would I need a 'teleporting' hack?

Yeah, here's the problem.

1. You were an innocent
2. You had your m16 out, not the teleporter
3. There was no teleport animation
4. There was no lag, as the scoreboard showed, and my net graph.

So, you're lying about this, which makes you look extremely suspicous. I'm pretty sure that lying to an admin can get you banned as well, since you just lied in a report thread that is directed towards the admins.

Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Dante on October 18, 2010, 01:08:58 PM
Hacking? Really?

There's a difference between hacking and lag. Also, teleport hacks? How obvious and stupid would that be? If you know me, you would know that I always buy the teleporter as a traitor and detective so why would I need a 'teleporting' hack?

Yeah, here's the problem.

1. You were an innocent
2. You had your m16 out, not the teleporter
3. There was no teleport animation
4. There was no lag, as the scoreboard showed, and my net graph.

So, you're lying about this, which makes you look extremely suspicous. I'm pretty sure that lying to an admin can get you banned as well, since you just lied in a report thread that is directed towards the admins.
Calm down bio he gets his say thats what happend. Bio also just because the scoreboard sais hes not lagging dosent mean he isnt when i joined friday into gmod it said i had 7 ping and you know what i lagg crashed.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Billy on October 18, 2010, 01:29:33 PM
Hacking? Really?

There's a difference between hacking and lag. Also, teleport hacks? How obvious and stupid would that be? If you know me, you would know that I always buy the teleporter as a traitor and detective so why would I need a 'teleporting' hack?

Yeah, here's the problem.

1. You were an innocent
2. You had your m16 out, not the teleporter
3. There was no teleport animation
4. There was no lag, as the scoreboard showed, and my net graph.

So, you're lying about this, which makes you look extremely suspicous. I'm pretty sure that lying to an admin can get you banned as well, since you just lied in a report thread that is directed towards the admins.



>1. You were an innocent

Yep. He was. You can't buy a teleporter as an innocent. Check.

>2. You had your m16 out, not the teleporter

Regardless; he was innocent. He can't have a teleporter, unless an admin(who wouldn't) gave it to him, or he cheated to get it. Check.

>3. There was no teleport animation

Once again, the other two add on to this. No explanation needed. Check.

4. There was no lag, as the scoreboard showed, and my net graph.

The video shows no signs of framerate issues or slowed/choppy movement. There is no apparent lag at all. Check.

Every point Bio made is valid and legitimate. Saying, "I've never heard of teleport hacks, that's just weird" is not valid. The same way the teleporter was made, hacks could be made to do the same a lot less obviously. Phantox could have teleported behind the rock he just so happened to be aiming at. He could have walked back out after Bio died, during that time in which that angle wasn't seen in the video. Everything - I repeat - EVERYTHING checks out accordingly. I've no problems toward neither Bio nor Phantox, and do not have a bias toward the two; although in my opinion, I believe that Biohazard is correct in thinking that Phantox used some sort of cheat/hack, and I agree. Bio may have a less-than-great reputation on the server, but so does Phantox.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Phantox on October 18, 2010, 04:17:30 PM
If I'm really hacking, then why has only one person noticed it?
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Tictactoe360 on October 18, 2010, 04:29:04 PM
I was talking to jorgen about this, On the same map (Yesterday) I was a traitor chasing you up the light house you were in front of me (Running up the stairs) I had no lag I shoot at you and you disapear next thing I know you knife me in the back suddenly running up the stairs from behind me
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Dante on October 18, 2010, 06:48:24 PM
I dont realy think its hacking tictac (about the incident that was originaly told about) Like i said because he has low ping dosent mean he isnt lagging. But your incident with him tictac is wierd.
Edit: Somone edited my post. So now i had to correct it and HUNT THEM DOWN!
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Phantox on October 20, 2010, 03:30:28 AM
I was talking to jorgen about this, On the same map (Yesterday) I was a traitor chasing you up the light house you were in front of me (Running up the stairs) I had no lag I shoot at you and you disapear next thing I know you knife me in the back suddenly running up the stairs from behind me

Because I'm gonna know you're behind me with a knife
Because I'm gonna "teleport" instead of blasting your face off.

Dynamic story, man
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Dinomoto on October 20, 2010, 05:38:02 AM
dont make fun of tictac or ill smash your testicles with a hammer
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Wholegrain on October 21, 2010, 12:02:39 AM
lol dino

also true ping type ping in console you can mask your ping on the scoreboard

also different types of lag

cpu lag throttle lag just straight up glitchy lag       gameplay freeze lag (all models animations freeze for like .2 - 3 seconds and then the game as it is designed relocates everything that has had a location change while the lag had started)     

in your case you had no moving objects in your line of sight when the lag occured the only moving object was phantox so you had nothing to compare the sudden teleportation to anything else that had moved (like if everyone and everything had froze up and you saw them all on your screen you would be alerted that it was lag not hack but in this case you only saw phantox)


also explaining how the people were consistently talking though the supposed lag doesnt dispose of that fact that it was most likely lag

game lag may or may not affect voice lag depending on a few variable unknown to me

that is a reasonable explanation of how it could have happened

also i dont think phantox is smart enough to hack
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Remscar on October 21, 2010, 03:54:13 AM
He wasn't hacking his computers sync with the server skipped a few counts and then resynced.
Title: Re: Phantox Hacking
Post by: Kwaurtz on October 21, 2010, 11:41:23 AM
Resolved, locking.
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