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Title: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Sqtgdog on November 20, 2013, 06:27:48 PM
Why doesn't Minecraft have a real Forum board? 

This child board business is kinda like saying MC is a 3rd World / 2nd Class community.

Along with having a listed/dedicated Forum, I would like to see a server status banner included.  If that is something I need to work with a CL to create, I will be happy to do so.

I know the MC server isn't a true CG run server, but I feel like it's been widely accepted, and is the default MC server for CG.

If there are some changes you guys would like to see, in order for my request to happen, I am also very willing to see what I can do to accommodate.

-Sqtgdog
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Pillz on November 20, 2013, 06:42:00 PM
Yeah I often wonder this too, and think it was just because of how MC has always been ran by someone outside of CG just helping out. It's a big enough part of the community to have a forum for.

I think someone has also offered their Pixelmon MC server for CG in a similar fashion but I don't know if that's still alive or not..

So I'll be glad to get you a banner up and have the section changed, we just need to get a decent banner that's similar to the others and then I'll throw it up.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Kwaurtz on November 20, 2013, 07:16:00 PM
Then Dota needs one.



JK, you banned most of the dota playerbase
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Sejo Mino on November 20, 2013, 07:56:30 PM
Then Dota needs one.



JK, you banned most of the dota playerbase
Wasn't that because as soon as the CL change some of the Dota2 players started jumping on and Trolling or spamming. Also I play Dota as well.

ALSO i do think we need a board for this
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Old Crow on November 20, 2013, 07:58:16 PM
Minecraft really doesn't need one. Sure people play it, but nobody really posts stuff on the forums concerning minecraft.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Pillz on November 20, 2013, 08:05:21 PM
Minecraft really doesn't need one. Sure people play it, but nobody really posts stuff on the forums concerning minecraft.

We talk about it more on the forums than TF2, NMRiH and ZPS, though. It helps to have a more obvious section of the forum to effectively plan building and to communicate with other MC players outside the server itself.

I say when the server has a functioning bukkit plugin and the such we should throw it up there. I think Minecraft is a common game for most everyone in CG so hey, why not.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Finniespin on November 21, 2013, 06:38:51 AM
EDIT: ok yea, might wanna move it OUT of the child board.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Old Crow on November 21, 2013, 12:23:35 PM
Considering CG could never hold a proper server together for more then one month, why would it deserve its own board? You know that I love Minecraft Pillz, but giving it its own board won't increase any sort of posts on it, or even show up better. I think it actually does pretty good where it is because its one of the first things that pops up.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Red on November 21, 2013, 01:56:39 PM
I think it should have it's own board, heck we have boards for servers we don't even talk about at all whereas we talk about Mincraft a lot =P.

+hey why not, it's not like it would make problems for anyone, if anything it might help =P
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Sqtgdog on November 22, 2013, 07:33:20 PM
Just a few stats for consideration:

Posts related to the MC server I host with recent replies have...

18,652 views
705 replies

...as of this post.  Seems pretty lively to me.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Live Bait on November 23, 2013, 12:22:06 AM
Minecraft really doesn't need one. Sure people play it, but nobody really posts stuff on the forums concerning minecraft.

Well, I'm gonna call "BullShit" on that, Sir.
I think the Minecraft playerbase here has expanded well enough to have its own board.
We ended up repurposing (hijacking?) a thread about upcoming 1.7 screenshots into a thread about the things we've seen. Like Haelin attracting a couple spiders. Or Haelin's memorial a world away. And Haelin's house catching on lava...
The Point is that "child" board is growing up and needs a little more room than a crib. :)
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Old Crow on November 23, 2013, 02:49:54 PM
I suppose you guys are right. The stats alone speak the truth. I reverse my previous position, lets make it a full board. That being said, I think it would be cool to get a Minecraft server again at some point, if we can keep the population up. I haven't been playing lately because sometimes the lag is horrible, and Sqt, we need to be able to get ahold of you better man when the server is down.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Pillz on November 23, 2013, 02:56:20 PM
I was thinking if we did get an official CG server maybe we could have Sqtg run it, but I feel if we put it on the serverbox it'll only be a smidgen better than Sqtg's spare computer.

When he get's bukkit and everything back on the current server it should be back to normal though. When we have the funds and resources we can look to purchasing upgrades and have Sqtg run as HA with a HA/a or two for when he's busy.

Until then, we can move the board; just waiting on a fancy banner.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Old Crow on November 23, 2013, 03:50:12 PM
I was thinking if we did get an official CG server maybe we could have Sqtg run it, but I feel if we put it on the serverbox it'll only be a smidgen better than Sqtg's spare computer.

When he get's bukkit and everything back on the current server it should be back to normal though. When we have the funds and resources we can look to purchasing upgrades and have Sqtg run as HA with a HA/a or two for when he's busy.

Until then, we can move the board; just waiting on a fancy banner.

Wait, why would Sqt be an HA? That would kinda be unfair to the process of pulling from the pool of Vet admins we have and while Sqt is a cool guy, I know he has much better things to do then run the server (we already have enough inactive HA's right now :/ )
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Pillz on November 23, 2013, 11:51:08 PM
I was thinking if we did get an official CG server maybe we could have Sqtg run it, but I feel if we put it on the serverbox it'll only be a smidgen better than Sqtg's spare computer.

When he get's bukkit and everything back on the current server it should be back to normal though. When we have the funds and resources we can look to purchasing upgrades and have Sqtg run as HA with a HA/a or two for when he's busy.

Until then, we can move the board; just waiting on a fancy banner.

Wait, why would Sqt be an HA? That would kinda be unfair to the process of pulling from the pool of Vet admins we have and while Sqt is a cool guy, I know he has much better things to do then run the server (we already have enough inactive HA's right now :/ )

Well because he knows what he's doing, and he doesn't really have any means of becoming a trial, regular or vet?

We don't exactly have trial/regular admins for MC and if we got an official CG server he would have to be at least the coder/HA'a.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Leetgrain on November 23, 2013, 11:58:07 PM
Well if he's already a server owner, is there really any need? If there should be HA for things like minecraft, there should just be "CG Community (GAME NAME HERE) Server Owner" tags, to show that someone owns a particular server that isn't "owned" or paid for by Conjoint Gaming's leaders.  Just to associate difference. (and could help out with getting more servers)
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Pillz on November 24, 2013, 12:02:47 AM
Well if he's already a server owner, is there really any need? If there should be HA for things like minecraft, there should just be "CG Community (GAME NAME HERE) Server Owner" tags, to show that someone owns a particular server that isn't "owned" or paid for by Conjoint Gaming's leaders.  Just to associate difference. (and could help out with getting more servers)

Oh I mean if CG purchases it's own MC server, Sqtgdog would probably be the best bet for who to have do it as opposed to having someone without much recent experience trying to do it.

Though if we had our own server I suppose we could have him start as trial and move his way up but he'd need access to FTP and everything so it'd just be a weird situation. If it ever happens we can focus on that then though.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Old Crow on November 24, 2013, 12:40:08 AM
If that's the case Pillz he would really need to make sure we could reach him and that he could run it. No sense in giving somebody an "HA in name only" because from what I've seen, its hard to get a hold of him (anybody remember the animal spawn spam? How about the horses "dying") Again Sqt is a great guy, but when it comes to MC, things need to be sorted ASAP.

IMO Red might make a better candidate for that :P

And again, I think HA's should only be pulled from the Vet pool, unless you guys make a rule change.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on November 24, 2013, 01:50:25 AM
If that's the case Pillz he would really need to make sure we could reach him and that he could run it. No sense in giving somebody an "HA in name only" because from what I've seen, its hard to get a hold of him (anybody remember the animal spawn spam? How about the horses "dying") Again Sqt is a great guy, but when it comes to MC, things need to be sorted ASAP.

IMO Red might make a better candidate for that :P

And again, I think HA's should only be pulled from the Vet pool, unless you guys make a rule change.

^
This.

It would make sense to give him access to the server files for coding purposes but for admin management it would be smarter to have an admin from CG.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Sqtgdog on November 24, 2013, 01:58:26 AM
Guys,

I will be the FIRST to admit that i'm not capable of running the server by myself.

This is why Pillz usually gets OP permissions, along with Admin stuff.  It always helps to have another person to help out.  We all have lives outside of MC, and can't be online ALL the time.

If you guys want to promote/vote in ( I honestly don't know your process ) someone to assist as an Admin on the server, I am completely open to that.  I would welcome that help, especially if it's someone the community has chosen.

Being that the current server is stored, hosted, and run off my personal computer, there are some limitations to what the additional admins will be able to do.  I/We need to establish how to enable remote restarts and stuff like that, which will help keep the server up longer and more reliably.

I will attempt to get a decent banner for the server status, but i'm limited to the free options at this time.  If anyone knows of a good product, please feel free to let me know, and i'll look into that.

Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Red on November 24, 2013, 02:01:19 AM
-snip-
Mmm I think Sq would be fine as HA too be honest... I love Minecraft that's true and I like to help people on it, that's also true... But being a HA on it? I don't have enough experience with minecraft servers in general whereas Sq has a ton. I'm also not the most active person on it =P Leninade, Live Bait, Burgers, an too be honest probably Sq are all more active on it than I am =\. Any one of them would be much better candidates for HA on any future Minecraft server we have than I would be. I think the only thing Sq has to really do to be contacted more easily would be to turn on his steam more often and maybe give a few people his cell phone number =P.
^my two cents.

Why not hold a HA nomination for Sq for any future MC servers?
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: DBag on November 24, 2013, 10:25:29 AM
Team viewer is good for working from a distance. Its what wooley has me use when I work on his servers.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Old Crow on November 24, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
-snip-
Mmm I think Sq would be fine as HA too be honest... I love Minecraft that's true and I like to help people on it, that's also true... But being a HA on it? I don't have enough experience with minecraft servers in general whereas Sq has a ton. I'm also not the most active person on it =P Leninade, Live Bait, Burgers, an too be honest probably Sq are all more active on it than I am =\. Any one of them would be much better candidates for HA on any future Minecraft server we have than I would be. I think the only thing Sq has to really do to be contacted more easily would be to turn on his steam more often and maybe give a few people his cell phone number =P.
^my two cents.

Why not hold a HA nomination for Sq for any future MC servers?

Because we had an HA for the Minecraft server that was never on, was never on the forums and never updated the server.....and therefor after two weeks the server died.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Pillz on November 26, 2013, 02:01:22 AM
Done, needs more work still though.

There's discussion of a Tekkit server going up too in a similar fashion to Sqtgdogs server so we might create child boards for the individual MC servers.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Old Crow on November 26, 2013, 02:09:07 AM
Done, needs more work still though.

There's discussion of a Tekkit server going up too in a similar fashion to Sqtgdogs server so we might create child boards for the individual MC servers.

Again, probably best to make the first server sustainable, then think about others. We always seem to bite off more then we can chew and it never ends well, even if the server is free.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Pillz on November 26, 2013, 02:12:46 AM
Done, needs more work still though.

There's discussion of a Tekkit server going up too in a similar fashion to Sqtgdogs server so we might create child boards for the individual MC servers.

Again, probably best to make the first server sustainable, then think about others. We always seem to bite off more then we can chew and it never ends well, even if the server is free.

Yes but this would be ran by a friend of Mr. Soap who's been running a server for them and they recently got it changed to dedicated hosting which we'd like to do with Sqtgdog's server one day so we're looking into all that right now; but to have both a Tekkit and mostly Vanilla server in CG would be quite neat.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Leninade on November 26, 2013, 02:24:38 AM
Was confused for a moment since DotA 2 was in Minecraft's spot. Then I realized that it had its own forum finally.
Title: Re: Minecraft Forum
Post by: Pillz on November 26, 2013, 02:48:53 AM
Was confused for a moment since DotA 2 was in Minecraft's spot. Then I realized that it had its own forum finally.

Seriously considering moving Dota to it's own forum too, but it's the only one that we technically don't have a server for so eh.
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