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CG Administration Section => Admin Department => Topic started by: Ãeath. on November 22, 2013, 03:13:10 AM
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Community Leader VACANCT
Inject Oh!4
AlphaWeeaboo / DarkEmo RESIGNED
Pillz - RESIGNED
Ãeath. / Blood Mage Merrill RESIGNED
Global Moderator VACANT
Guztav RESIGNED
oobla RESIGNED
Board Moderator VACANCY
Head Admins VACANCY
Cortez - Trouble in Terrorist Town
Christovski - Zombie Master RESIGNED
Pillz - Zombie Panic! Source RESIGNED
Red - Hidden: Source RESIGNED
Yahtzee - Team Fortress 2 Vanilla/Saxton Hale
VACANCY - No More Room in Hell
Head Admin Assistant VACANCY*
TTT
Nexus RESIGNED
Hidden Source
Ima|Haelin RESIGNED
Zombie Panic! Source
Zombie Master
Veteran Admins VACANCY*
TTT
Wooley
Blazyd
Ashes Relandi
Caboose74
Yankees
Finniespin
Muffins RESIGNED
Zombie Panic! Source
Deadly Kisses RESIGNED
Sandbellie RESIGNED
Scott Mentalist RESIGNED
Zombie Master
Hidden Source
NMRIH
Regular Admins VACANCY
TTT
BladeTwinSwords RESIGNED
Scooby RESIGNED
Dylan RESIGNED
Oobla RESIGNED
Crovv RESIGNED
Billy RESIGNED
mjb627
StormOfAshes
NMRIH
Fluffalupagus
Zombie Master
Hidden Source
Live Bait
DBag RESIGNED
Proxy
EagleWulf
Fluffalupagus
Blue Belladonna RESIGNED
Trial Admins VACANCY
TTT
Zombie Panic! Source
Zombie Master
Whenbananasattack
Toku
Dante RESIGNED
Hidden Source
Retired Admins
Cadaver
Old Crow RESIGNED
Jorgen
Sejo Mino
Leomire
Guvnuh
FullMetal MegaDave
Nurse MeowMoo
Tendovvi
Coreybush11
Pancake of Doom
Link236
symbolzzzz
Mercy
JohnCyKlopZ RESIGNED
Sprite
??Mr.E??
UnknownError
Multigrain
Bloody Mion
pwn3dl1fe
Blackllama
Klondor
OMG_ZombiePenguin VETERAN ADMIN?
Zukuto
xXArbysOvenMittXx
Smiffy
Lyssa
SlyWilliam
Burgers
Leninade
EchoChrome
Pyro
Any questions, comments, or concerns should be directed to me via PM or steam message; any requested revisions should also be asked via this.
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Tictac resigned from ZM to do the youtube channel FYI...over a month ago...
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Veteran admin TTT.
TF2 board moderator (needs to be removed...)
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http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=11147.0
Herp's not an admin on TTT anymore. :(
Also, http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=169
Sejo Mino is retired, apparently.
I do have one/two question(s):
The Global Moderators vs. Global Administrators - those that wish to be GMs, will they be allowed to be promoted to GA, or is that a separate position altogether? I personally am going to stay on the servers for as long as possible, helping out TTT, but I notice that no one is GA right now and the CLs are "Ironining out the details," so I wish to know what's going on towards that front, as well as the HA assistant and changes to Vet Admin. Or will those be announced when the details are set in stone?
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Keep in mind the admins are just a rough grab from what was listed on the forums, still need to iron that out in regards to who is actually still admin.
As for GM vs GA, Global Mod is forum, Global Admin is for the servers. Forum moderation roles are entirely separate from adminship positions. (with Head Admins technically being an exception, though only in regards to how the forum works.)
There should be a follow up post of our meeting sometime soonish.
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--Elaboration on Bigger Changes--
GA- Basically a HA/a across all servers, updates + maintains servers, same forum powers as GM(if we can trust them with FTP might as well), enforces activity and hour requirements, recruits and trains new players, keeps CL's informed of server status (with weekly reports possibly) and they watch the forums for information CL's/HA's might miss or see to late (IE Finnies post about how he's still TF2 mod), requires user to be Veteran with at least 100 posts.
HA/a- Has FTP(maps/plugins) and CP(restart/stop/start) access, only does FTP / CP when HA is busy, encourages players to populate, recruits trial admins for servers, watches admin hours for inactivity, keeps tabs on what maps the playerbase enjoys and what maps need to be removed, looks for updates and helpful plugins.
Comm. Officer- Maintains steam page, creating rough-draft announcements for CL's to approve, takes notes on meetings + responsible for getting information out that we want public (IE stuff like ZM SERVER IS GETTING UPDATED, UPDATE SDK IF YOU HAVENT), handles public relations + drama if necessary, makes sure the people are happy + more
Retired(or just change Vet to Retired?) Admin- If you were an honorary admin in CG and did your job well, you are eligible for Retired admin. If you broke the rules and were mostly inactive you will lose your admin completely and must begin the process again later. Ideally only Veteran admins and above are eligible for Retired admin but exceptions can be made if needed.
Veteran(and then change Veteran to Super?) Admin- Must EXCEED the required hours/playtime for their server and go above expectations for being an admin. If a regular admin proves them self worthy they will be rewarded basic admin powers to any server of their choice if the HA allows it. Laziness and abusing time away format will no longer be tolerated for Vets much longer.
--Minor Changes--
Moderator- Maintains the rules in the 1-3 boards applied for, reports posts before editing them, stickies/locks threads when appropriate, keeps threads on topic and intervenes before things get too off track, keeps things organized
Trial Admin- Ideally standards for applying should be low, but standards for promotions would be high. So anyone who wants to help can try for trial admin and post later if the HA thinks they're capable, but I think people like trial the way it is. I just don't expect any possible new admins we could get from ZPS, ZM or TF2 would be immediately interested in the forums, so like I said in the last post the post count should be optional for each server. If we're keeping closer tabs on our admins activity this shouldn't be an issue.
Regular Admin- Must have 20-30 posts, full understanding of the rules, active at least 7.5 hours every week, no rule infractions as trial, love and compassion
Community Leader- Must have experience as HA/HAa/GA/GM, must have minimum of X posts, 90% approval rate minimum when applying, active at least 4 out of the 7 days of the week, blahblahblah(more basics to come)
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Tictac resigned from ZM to do the youtube channel FYI...over a month ago...
Still has the admin rank, will remove though, I suppose.
Veteran admin TTT.
TF2 board moderator (needs to be removed...)
Ah, Veteran Admin on TTT? Yes, fixed that.
(http://filesmelt.com/dl/ahyesanadmin.png)
I just haven't noticed you ever on the server.
Ever. :I
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Can I get retired status? I left honorable a while ago and I did the community good. Please? :'(
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Everyone forgets me on these god damn lists!!! Am i really that forgettable? Anyways i admin on TTT.
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Everyone also focus on keeping your hours above 7.5 for the server you're admin on as we'll be watching you. We'll be giving everyone a little leeway at first but ideally we'd like to have all the inactive and unmotivated admins weeded out by start of December. The holidays are often very popular for gamers so we're going to try to use that towards our advantage.
I was thinking of a "gold star" system where admins who populate a server from 0-8 are given a gold star and getting X amount of gold stars will reward you with a new rank or some other form of reward for your hard work.
We seriously need some activity reform though. This is the current admin hours for Gmod Vet admins. They aren't too good..
Cortez- 0.0
Death- 100+
ashes relandi- 25.4
muffins- 0.9
blazyd- 0.6
caboose- 6.5
yankees- 5.5
wooley- 1.9
So I'd hate to call you all out, and there's no punishments or anything yet but if you rarely play on the server you might as well just play as a regular CG member, no hard feelings. We just need active people to enforce the rules and populate on TTT and other servers.
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If I remember correctly, StormofAshes is a Trial for TTT.
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Any questions, comments, or concerns should be directed to me via PM or steam message; any requested revisions should also be asked via this.
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(This is pertaining to Pillz's post)
Erm, TL;DR
How do you keep track of time on the servers? Just by going to the steam profiles or is there something in the sourcebans/mods log for the individual mods that records the amount of time an account with admin capabilities has been on? Or some other method? I wonder this because the Hidden mod doesn't record play time in steam so it would be difficult to keep track of the playtime for those admins if you were to simply check on their steam profiles.
Also, how would the rank system for your gold star idea work? What I mean is, would the only way you could get stars be by going into an empty server and getting people on it, or do you just mean spending time on the server in general. Also, could you lose stars if you went inactive for a period of time? For example, you go inactive for no reason for six weeks and you have six stars, would you lose all your stars (one for each week, or would you lose your admin for being inactive and the stars wouldn't matter). Also, how would you keep track of gold stars? You could put them running along the bottom of the Admin tag.
Also,
Would the ranks be entirely different from what they are now if an admin was rewarded for their dedication? I mean like... A veteran admin is rewarded for their dedication with a special rank, what would the title be? Outstanding Veteran Admin, Special Veteran Admin, Etc. Or would the title of the admin change and the tag stay the same. What I mean is, you'd still have the tag you would normally have at your rank, be it Trial, Regular, Veteran, Etc admin, but the title of the rank would change, like mine says CG Veteran Admin for the title but my tag is the picture that says I'm a Veteran Admin.
(lemme know if what I said needs more clarification)
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We can use Gametracker to track hours played based on name. http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/198.50.26.34:27030/
Of course there's still issues when people change their names but you just have to add together the names; it's what I've done for ZPS for years, as it shows what day's they played and the minutes played that day in a graph.
Here's your chart for this past week on Server#1 Red.
Player score-
(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/player_score.php?nameb64=yYxlZA%3D%3D&host=198.50.26.34:27030&start=-1w)
Player Time-
(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/player_time.php?nameb64=yYxlZA%3D%3D&host=198.50.26.34:27030&start=-1w)
Or time over the past month-
(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/player_time.php?nameb64=yYxlZA%3D%3D&host=198.50.26.34:27030&start=-1m&request=08109720338671136)
Steam only tells you what game they've spent their hours on, it's not server in particular so this and other websites help.
The Gold Stars suggestion is just something I threw out there and I'm not sure how exactly it would work yet. I'm 100% open to ideas and suggestions but the main idea is inspiring admins to populate when they see the server empty.
I also think it would be cool to have admins communicate with other admins when they leave the server adminless. I know that especially seems a little far-fetched but it would be cool if when there were no admins on it like posted where only admins could see it, like they all get a PM or Steam message when no admins are on.
I think that would be a fun task for someone who's willing to do it.. haha.. just sit and watch all the servers making sure we have admins on, but that seems a bit much; possible GA task though.
For your last question~
I don't want to diversify Veteran into separate mini-vet sections, if that's what you mean. We just feel like tweaking what needs to be done to get Vet and what it takes to keep it.
Same goes for the other groups like Trial and Regular, as the only change for Trial I suggested was optional.
Aside from being moderator everyone should only ever be just a single group. I think we have VIP and then Senior VIP and I need to look into that more but otherwise we don't really do anything like that as far as I know.
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We can use Gametracker to track hours played based on name. http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/198.50.26.34:27030/
Of course there's still issues when people change their names but you just have to add together the names; it's what I've done for ZPS for years, as it shows what day's they played and the minutes played that day in a graph.
Here's your chart for this past week on Server#1 Red.
Player score-
(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/player_score.php?nameb64=yYxlZA%3D%3D&host=198.50.26.34:27030&start=-1w)
Player Time-
(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/player_time.php?nameb64=yYxlZA%3D%3D&host=198.50.26.34:27030&start=-1w)
Or time over the past month-
(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/player_time.php?nameb64=yYxlZA%3D%3D&host=198.50.26.34:27030&start=-1m&request=08109720338671136)
Steam only tells you what game they've spent their hours on, it's not server in particular so this and other websites help.
The Gold Stars suggestion is just something I threw out there and I'm not sure how exactly it would work yet. I'm 100% open to ideas and suggestions but the main idea is inspiring admins to populate when they see the server empty.
I also think it would be cool to have admins communicate with other admins when they leave the server adminless. I know that especially seems a little far-fetched but it would be cool if when there were no admins on it like posted where only admins could see it, like they all get a PM or Steam message when no admins are on.
I think that would be a fun task for someone who's willing to do it.. haha.. just sit and watch all the servers making sure we have admins on, but that seems a bit much; possible GA task though.
For your last question~
I don't want to diversify Veteran into separate mini-vet sections, if that's what you mean. We just feel like tweaking what needs to be done to get Vet and what it takes to keep it.
Same goes for the other groups like Trial and Regular, as the only change for Trial I suggested was optional.
Aside from being moderator everyone should only ever be just a single group. I think we have VIP and then Senior VIP and I need to look into that more but otherwise we don't really do anything like that as far as I know.
That isn't going to work for ZM because the name-changing is in-game and literally we change names almost daily. I know I do and Tic used to do it even more than me. Thats about a metric fuckload of names to add up and thats a lot of nope/
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We can use Gametracker to track hours played based on name. http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/198.50.26.34:27030/
Of course there's still issues when people change their names but you just have to add together the names; it's what I've done for ZPS for years, as it shows what day's they played and the minutes played that day in a graph.
Here's your chart for this past week on Server#1 Red.
Player score-
(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/player_score.php?nameb64=yYxlZA%3D%3D&host=198.50.26.34:27030&start=-1w)
Player Time-
(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/player_time.php?nameb64=yYxlZA%3D%3D&host=198.50.26.34:27030&start=-1w)
Or time over the past month-
(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/player_time.php?nameb64=yYxlZA%3D%3D&host=198.50.26.34:27030&start=-1m&request=08109720338671136)
Steam only tells you what game they've spent their hours on, it's not server in particular so this and other websites help.
The Gold Stars suggestion is just something I threw out there and I'm not sure how exactly it would work yet. I'm 100% open to ideas and suggestions but the main idea is inspiring admins to populate when they see the server empty.
I also think it would be cool to have admins communicate with other admins when they leave the server adminless. I know that especially seems a little far-fetched but it would be cool if when there were no admins on it like posted where only admins could see it, like they all get a PM or Steam message when no admins are on.
I think that would be a fun task for someone who's willing to do it.. haha.. just sit and watch all the servers making sure we have admins on, but that seems a bit much; possible GA task though.
For your last question~
I don't want to diversify Veteran into separate mini-vet sections, if that's what you mean. We just feel like tweaking what needs to be done to get Vet and what it takes to keep it.
Same goes for the other groups like Trial and Regular, as the only change for Trial I suggested was optional.
Aside from being moderator everyone should only ever be just a single group. I think we have VIP and then Senior VIP and I need to look into that more but otherwise we don't really do anything like that as far as I know.
That isn't going to work for ZM because the name-changing is in-game and literally we change names almost daily. I know I do and Tic used to do it even more than me. Thats about a metric fuckload of names to add up and thats a lot of nope/
That's understandable, but there are ways to make sure the admins are playing. I just would like each HA or the HA/a(s) to create a small list of their admins and keep tabs on everyone's hours/whereabouts to the best of their ability.
EDIT: Red's been looking at time tracking plugins~
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=839075
If one HA wants to send me a Spreadsheet of their admins and hours, sweet.
If you want to write a paragraph on who's been playing, who's not and who you're not sure about, I would be glad to take that too.
Then we can make active decisions together and if we need to, we start recruiting new admins. I think we all just need the proper direction and motivation. I know how it feels to be tired of the same game and same maps but if we're going to commit to this community and to being an admin we need to take it a little more seriously. Nothing's immediate but this is the plan. It's also optional if it causes too much of an issue or if nobodies playing the game currently like both ZPS and ZM.
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Pillz and I found a plugin that might work (needs to be tested still) for keeping track of admin time, so for now we can leave that issue behind and address the other questions and stuff.
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That's understandable, but there are ways to make sure the admins are playing. I just would like each HA or the HA/a(s) to create a small list of their admins and keep tabs on everyone's hours/whereabouts to the best of their ability.
EDIT: Red's been looking at time tracking plugins~
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=839075
If one HA wants to send me a Spreadsheet of their admins and hours, sweet.
If you want to write a paragraph on who's been playing, who's not and who you're not sure about, I would be glad to take that too.
Then we can make active decisions together and if we need to, we start recruiting new admins. I think we all just need the proper direction and motivation. I know how it feels to be tired of the same game and same maps but if we're going to commit to this community and to being an admin we need to take it a little more seriously. Nothing's immediate but this is the plan. It's also optional if it causes too much of an issue or if nobodies playing the game currently like both ZPS and ZM.
Yeah right now ZM is awaiting SDK update because as far as I know I'm the only CG member who didnt update SDK and can therefore still play, once in a while one player joins me then noone else does they get bored and leave -_-
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I'm still a Reg. Admin for TTT. I haven't been on too much recently for reasons I've already explained with Cortez, but I'm trying to make more of an active effort to be on as often as I can.
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Pyro - Veteran Admin on Hidden:Source; no longer Head Admin
Dark ÉŒed - Head Admin on Hidden:Source; no longer Global Admin
MissScarlettLegacy - renamed Blue Belladonna
Ima - no longer Regular admin; Head Admin Assistant
@Edit Blue Belladonna - no longer Head Admin Assistant; Regular Admin
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leninade should be added to retired as well, he was reg admin for hidden
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echo needs to be added to retired too for hidden
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Add no more room in hell
Fluffalupagus transfered to NMRIH
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plz n ty
<3
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I'm currently admin on NMRiH only so if someone could change that.
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StormofAshes is also a reg now.
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StormofAshes is also a reg now.