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Admin Abuse / Re: Admin Abuse/Neglect - Billy
« on: December 30, 2013, 12:13:48 AM »
Alright, this is going to cause a problem, since I haven't been online all day so I speed-read through the topic and therefore probably missed a lot of major points.
A lot of the evidence is mine. The dates on my evidence are the nights (and therefore sometimes next-mornings) of December 25 and 28 - just this week. The reason the evidence is so recent is because I'm never on the server at the same time as Billy, and noticed he wasn't doing his job as well as he could have.
First, I'll start with the ban:
Billy, you were banned for one week for RDM and Leave. On the next map, the person you killed reported you as RDMing with the axe, and you had been killing multiple people with the axe without them jumping into it, so I believed it. If this was false, feel free to look for an unban, but I don't think he (Mayor) was the one jumping into your axe all the time. I have the .dem files to prove it, we'll see, but people were complaining about you using the axe all night. Maybe he was just trying to frame you.
Next, the .dem files and other evidence:
He has been banned twice now. Once for glitching - an offense that isn't too bad, considering he only did it once with other admins around, but the one time that we did catch him,
Some people are saying the chat logs can be faked, as they are censored. here's the uncensored versions.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/SenpaiBilly2.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/SenpaiBilly1.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/SenpaiBilly3.png
Senpai also added this when I asked him if posting the uncensored version would be alright (I wasn't the one who censored them, so I wondered if the people involved would not like their names shown).
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/SenpaiBilly4.png
To be honest, the .dem files mostly originated from my general recordings of GMod, so I'd have to edit them a LOT in order to upload them to YouTube with only the evidence against Billy involved. I don't have this kind of time right now, but I can work on it if it will make this process go faster.
The RDM and Leave evidence is very out of place, I agree, but in that part of the demo (I was recording at the same time), I reported the RDM and Leave twice - once before, once after the map change - and Billy did nothing about it. I did ban him later that day, so it's no problem, but this is just one instance of Billy missing slays/bans that I screenshotted rather than recorded.
A few more notes.
Billy, I'm not out to get you. I may have been collecting all this evidence against you, but at first it was purely circumstantial. I happened to be recording and taking screenshots, and I noticed that you weren't doing your job correctly. I contacted someone else about it, rather than talking to you directly. As someone of the same rank I didn't see it to be my place to use this evidence against you, so I made sure someone knew about what was going on, and it turns out people did, and that's where this thread came from, I guess.
The moment in particular where I noticed you were -13 score, I was concerned, so I came on to see if you needed any help. Then I realized it was only you with such low karma and score, so I stayed, looked around, and from my point of view only saw some instances of RDM amongst playing with the two people who were apparently okay with you killing them and them killing you over explosive barrels. This is not my judgement call, but I think you need a reminder of what being an admin is about. TTT is supposed to be a game - fun, and admining it gets stressful at times, but ignoring your responsibilities, especially when you're the only admin on, means ruining other people's experiences because, unfortunately, TTT is a game where not having an admin on means free reign of RDM, revenge RDM, and rulebreaking. If you're going to act like a regular rather than an admin, why not become a regular rather than an admin?
You are an admin, which means you aren't above the rules, but you also have to enforce them. If this doesn't end with your suspension or a removal of your admin, here are a few notes for you: Investigate slays and bans more, re-read the rules and follow them more closely, and don't break them or promote breaking them.
TL;DR: The basis of my argument against Billy, if we should call it an argument, is that he is neglecting his rank rather than abusing it. He misses a lot of bans and slays, even when reported, and breaks some of the rules though he should know them by now.
A lot of the evidence is mine. The dates on my evidence are the nights (and therefore sometimes next-mornings) of December 25 and 28 - just this week. The reason the evidence is so recent is because I'm never on the server at the same time as Billy, and noticed he wasn't doing his job as well as he could have.
First, I'll start with the ban:
Billy, you were banned for one week for RDM and Leave. On the next map, the person you killed reported you as RDMing with the axe, and you had been killing multiple people with the axe without them jumping into it, so I believed it. If this was false, feel free to look for an unban, but I don't think he (Mayor) was the one jumping into your axe all the time. I have the .dem files to prove it, we'll see, but people were complaining about you using the axe all night. Maybe he was just trying to frame you.
Next, the .dem files and other evidence:
He has been banned twice now. Once for glitching - an offense that isn't too bad, considering he only did it once with other admins around, but the one time that we did catch him,
Some people are saying the chat logs can be faked, as they are censored. here's the uncensored versions.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/SenpaiBilly2.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/SenpaiBilly1.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/SenpaiBilly3.png
Senpai also added this when I asked him if posting the uncensored version would be alright (I wasn't the one who censored them, so I wondered if the people involved would not like their names shown).
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/SenpaiBilly4.png
To be honest, the .dem files mostly originated from my general recordings of GMod, so I'd have to edit them a LOT in order to upload them to YouTube with only the evidence against Billy involved. I don't have this kind of time right now, but I can work on it if it will make this process go faster.
The RDM and Leave evidence is very out of place, I agree, but in that part of the demo (I was recording at the same time), I reported the RDM and Leave twice - once before, once after the map change - and Billy did nothing about it. I did ban him later that day, so it's no problem, but this is just one instance of Billy missing slays/bans that I screenshotted rather than recorded.
A few more notes.
Billy, I'm not out to get you. I may have been collecting all this evidence against you, but at first it was purely circumstantial. I happened to be recording and taking screenshots, and I noticed that you weren't doing your job correctly. I contacted someone else about it, rather than talking to you directly. As someone of the same rank I didn't see it to be my place to use this evidence against you, so I made sure someone knew about what was going on, and it turns out people did, and that's where this thread came from, I guess.
The moment in particular where I noticed you were -13 score, I was concerned, so I came on to see if you needed any help. Then I realized it was only you with such low karma and score, so I stayed, looked around, and from my point of view only saw some instances of RDM amongst playing with the two people who were apparently okay with you killing them and them killing you over explosive barrels. This is not my judgement call, but I think you need a reminder of what being an admin is about. TTT is supposed to be a game - fun, and admining it gets stressful at times, but ignoring your responsibilities, especially when you're the only admin on, means ruining other people's experiences because, unfortunately, TTT is a game where not having an admin on means free reign of RDM, revenge RDM, and rulebreaking. If you're going to act like a regular rather than an admin, why not become a regular rather than an admin?
You are an admin, which means you aren't above the rules, but you also have to enforce them. If this doesn't end with your suspension or a removal of your admin, here are a few notes for you: Investigate slays and bans more, re-read the rules and follow them more closely, and don't break them or promote breaking them.
The slaps are allowed post round if they are ok with it though, the screens with those slaps don't have any protesting to it, so it verry well could have been in fun with friends.You are correct - my screenshot with the slaps is meant to show Billy leaving the server after an RDM, not him slapping people. The slaps were post-round. "Fun with friends" is debatable, but the slaps in question were not abuse.
TL;DR: The basis of my argument against Billy, if we should call it an argument, is that he is neglecting his rank rather than abusing it. He misses a lot of bans and slays, even when reported, and breaks some of the rules though he should know them by now.
