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Reply #15
by Live Bait on 30 Nov, 2013 17:34
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I want you all to know I have read each reply and appreciate your time and opinions on this.
Keep in mind that is what I wanted: Opinions and points of view.
It's seeming that it's better to not pursue them as a community.
I appreciate knowing the CG members, while as passionate about anti-hacking as I, are just as passionate about what is right and wrong, not enough or too far.
I realize I talk a lot. I have far too much free time and I appreciate you spending some of yours here.
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Reply #16
by EagleWulf on 30 Nov, 2013 17:36
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as fun as the idea is of blacklisting hacking scum from Hidden servers, it might be a little too far. they are only our concern when they're on our servers, but other servers are out of our domain. leave it to them to figure out for themselves who the players are they want in their community, and who knows, maybe these players comport themselves differently on other servers. No one's to say that a hacker will always be a hacker, and perhaps in time, they could shape up their act and realize their actions are wrong.
tl;dr it's only our business when it's on our servers
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Reply #17
by DBag on 30 Nov, 2013 18:02
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I don't believe its right to shame them but I do think it is a good Idea to keep lines of communication open between communities. Through this we can warn about possible hackers of the like. Although he did deserve it for getting on our servers and hacking.
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Reply #18
by Old Crow on 30 Nov, 2013 19:02
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Chasing them down on other servers, not a fan of that. That being said, I have exactly zero fucks to give for hackers getting banned.
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Reply #19
by raddude-pancake ruler on 01 Dec, 2013 09:27
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i want to add that putting a hacker to shame makes you no better then trolls stalking peoples profiles
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Reply #20
by Kwaurtz on 01 Dec, 2013 09:29
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If you commit a crime, your information is available to the public, but the police don't show up to your work saying 'HEY HE BROKE THE LAW'.
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Reply #21
by Christovski on 01 Dec, 2013 14:05
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Sex offenders have to go door to door to tell their neighbors
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Reply #22
by Live Bait on 01 Dec, 2013 14:34
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If you commit a crime, your information is available to the public, but the police don't show up to your work saying 'HEY HE BROKE THE LAW'.
Actually, they kinda do, in a different way. They go around to investigate. They'll go to your work. They'll go to your relatives. They'll go to your frequent coffee shop if they think they need some information there. The police will most likely tell you "He's been accused of fraud, identity theft, etc", whatever it may have been. They don't divulged important facts about the case, but they can say why they're investigating.
Also, if you're CONVICTED of said crime, LOTS more people know about it in real life than someone caught hacking on here. So we're still not pushing that limit.
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Reply #23
by BladeTwinSwords on 01 Dec, 2013 15:33
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While I don't mind warning other communities that he is known to hack, hacker shaming isn't really the best thing to do. Yes, they are scum but at the same time there is a right and a wrong way to go about it.
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Reply #24
by AlphaWeeaboo on 01 Dec, 2013 16:24
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If you commit a crime, your information is available to the public, but the police don't show up to your work saying 'HEY HE BROKE THE LAW'.
Actually, they kinda do, in a different way. They go around to investigate. They'll go to your work. They'll go to your relatives. They'll go to your frequent coffee shop if they think they need some information there. The police will most likely tell you "He's been accused of fraud, identity theft, etc", whatever it may have been. They don't divulged important facts about the case, but they can say why they're investigating.
Also, if you're CONVICTED of said crime, LOTS more people know about it in real life than someone caught hacking on here. So we're still not pushing that limit.
I think when he said commit crime he meant the crime was already done.
So like, basically, yeah the information is there but the cops sure as hell aren't going to be running around telling everybody. (unless maybe it's like sex offender?)
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Reply #25
by crovv on 01 Dec, 2013 18:37
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Having a (public?) list of permabanned people would be helpful, in my opinion, especially hackers, ghosters, and other "heavy" offenses; not only to the greater community, as they could see the bans with a simple SteamID search, but also to our community, keeping track of who are banned and should not be able to appeal the ban.
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Reply #26
by Kwaurtz on 01 Dec, 2013 18:49
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Reply #27
by crovv on 01 Dec, 2013 18:54
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http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?page=pageBans
Srsly?
We don't have this for TTT as SB doesn't work with TTT (that's the reason I was given, at least).
I was mostly referencing TTT, but also: if we have a list of bans
with proof rather than just a reason, it would be helpful for appeals, separate communities, etc.