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CG Administration Section => Admin Department => Topic started by: Wholegrain on January 09, 2012, 08:02:27 PM
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If you were not on the forums for the last 2 months you were removed from admin
you are exempt from this if you made a time away
If it shows you have admin on the forums than you are good if not and would like to know why please pm me. Mistakes do happen and if you believe your admin being removed was a mistake please PM me.
I will be going through the servers talking to head admins about the removal of these admins as their inactivity is beyond unacceptable.
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FINALLY someone is doing something about it. +11111, game on, I luv you 4ever and 5ever, etc.
Oh, and you might wanna do something about ranks on TTT. I was promoted to regular within 1 month and now it's been 6 months that I have been an admin on the server and I'm still regular, same with other people like Arth; even thought he's an admin since september and is amongst the most active admins on the server, he's still trial. Looks like whoever is in charge of promoting/demoting isn't doing their job.
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FINALLY someone is doing something about it. +11111, game on, I luv you 4ever and 5ever, etc.
Oh, and you might wanna do something about ranks on TTT. I was promoted to regular within 1 month and now it's been 6 months that I have been an admin on the server and I'm still regular, same with other people like Arth; even thought he's an admin since september and is amongst the most active admins on the server, he's still trial. Looks like whoever is in charge of promoting/demoting isn't doing their job.
Everything Admin related is the HEAD admin's job aka Towersheep talk to him. It can be hard because TTT has many admins and it can be hard to keep track.
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FINALLY someone is doing something about it. +11111, game on, I luv you 4ever and 5ever, etc.
Oh, and you might wanna do something about ranks on TTT. I was promoted to regular within 1 month and now it's been 6 months that I have been an admin on the server and I'm still regular, same with other people like Arth; even thought he's an admin since september and is amongst the most active admins on the server, he's still trial. Looks like whoever is in charge of promoting/demoting isn't doing their job.
Promoting/demoting in CG has always been very strange. Trial admin has always seemed liek a waste of time, and sometimes people forget they're trial or why, and don't find any reason to "promote" them. Idk what makes a player a vet either, I thought the time limit for being a vet was six months, but I'm not sure if everyone's whose played six months exactly deserves it.
Let's get a New CL and have him promote/depromote people and he talks to HA's about it. Or something.
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Wholegrain doesn't have to worry about me being inactive because I spawn an admin abuse form almost every other week so I'm golden!
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... Create a standard amount of time required for the ranks of admin and make a spreadsheet with the names of all active admins, the date they were added and the date that they should be promoted. Suddenly promoting admins is not a problem.
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... Create a standard amount of time required for the ranks of admin and make a spreadsheet with the names of all active admins, the date they were added and the date that they should be promoted. Suddenly promoting admins is not a problem.
It happens that, like WG said, some admins may or may not deserve to be promoted. I don't see any that shouldn't at least in our TTT server, except the inactive ones.
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But i dont wanna be on the forums..... They Make fun of me their.... XP
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... Create a standard amount of time required for the ranks of admin and make a spreadsheet with the names of all active admins, the date they were added and the date that they should be promoted. Suddenly promoting admins is not a problem.
^ Close to what I did to remember when to promote my admins. But instead of being fancy like Cor suggested, when an admin was added, I simply put in parenthesis when they should be promoted next to their name on the admin list. This way, even if I had forgotten to promote them, anyone could see and remind me. For me, it really worked. We should try it?
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... Create a standard amount of time required for the ranks of admin and make a spreadsheet with the names of all active admins, the date they were added and the date that they should be promoted. Suddenly promoting admins is not a problem.
It happens that, like WG said, some admins may or may not deserve to be promoted. I don't see any that shouldn't at least in our TTT server, except the inactive ones.
For admins who don't impress, their time should be suspended until they prove themselves as a good admin. :p
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IF we can set up a time on server per week thing and if an admin doesn't meet that requrement he gets a warning, on the third week of inactivity without an timeaway forum the admin is either demoted or removed. Id say 18 hrs a week would be acceptible.
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I only removed admins based on forum inactivity for the last 2 months
I am going to be working with head admins and cleaning the books of inactive admins on the servers next.
Also when the main cg web page goes up EVERYTHING about EVERYTHINg in CG will be listed including rank requirements rules protocol tutorials etc.....
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Ok. If you are an Admin on ANY server, and have had the length of time required to be Vet, and have NOT brought it to the attention of the Head Admin for that server, then why should you be automatically given Vet?
Not pointing out you should be Vet Admin smacks of not caring. IMHO.
Oh, and if you are not dropping by the forum and logging in, you might miss important Admin related info, which means you could make mistakes as an Admin. Rare, but it can occur. In the future, you WILL be missing important info, by not logging into the forum.
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I only removed admins based on forum inactivity for the last 2 months
I am going to be working with head admins and cleaning the books of inactive admins on the servers next.
Also when the main cg web page goes up EVERYTHING about EVERYTHINg in CG will be listed including rank requirements rules protocol tutorials etc.....
Aww yeah clearing out the admins that don't actually do stuff
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Ok. If you are an Admin on ANY server, and have had the length of time required to be Vet, and have NOT brought it to the attention of the Head Admin for that server, then why should you be automatically given Vet?
Not pointing out you should be Vet Admin smacks of not caring. IMHO.
Oh, and if you are not dropping by the forum and logging in, you might miss important Admin related info, which means you could make mistakes as an Admin. Rare, but it can occur. In the future, you WILL be missing important info, by not logging into the forum.
Well, live I've said, it's still a bit confusing how the ranking system works on CG. But that I've already said in my first post. But mostly that when I was promoted, I didn't have to ask Tower (or whoever promoted me, not sure who was) to do so. And yes, we (at least me and the admins I talked to) do care about the community. I thought we made it pretty clear when we were active on the forums and on the respective servers.
After all, I don't think it's our job to keep bothering Tower whenever we feel like we should be promoted.
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I only removed admins based on forum inactivity for the last 2 months
I am going to be working with head admins and cleaning the books of inactive admins on the servers next.
Also when the main cg web page goes up EVERYTHING about EVERYTHINg in CG will be listed including rank requirements rules protocol tutorials etc.....
Take your time. It's not like CG is a complete chaos like other communities.
And no, that wasn't irony. I'd give you a cookie but I know you're an adult now and Grandma understands that. Meme9
*remembering a certain Spongebob Squarepants episode*
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I only removed admins based on forum inactivity for the last 2 months
I am going to be working with head admins and cleaning the books of inactive admins on the servers next.
Also when the main cg web page goes up EVERYTHING about EVERYTHINg in CG will be listed including rank requirements rules protocol tutorials etc.....
Take your time. It's not like CG is a complete chaos like other communities.
And no, that wasn't irony. I'd give you a cookie but I know you're an adult now and Grandma understands that. Meme9
*remembering a certain Spongebob Squarepants episode*
fuckn lold at the spongebob part. I remember that episode.
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IF we can set up a time on server per week thing and if an admin doesn't meet that requrement he gets a warning, on the third week of inactivity without an timeaway forum the admin is either demoted or removed. Id say 18 hrs a week would be acceptible.
18 hrs a week? That's kinda steep. I don't want to have to make admin time away threads when I don't feel like playing ttt that week.
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IF we can set up a time on server per week thing and if an admin doesn't meet that requrement he gets a warning, on the third week of inactivity without an timeaway forum the admin is either demoted or removed. Id say 18 hrs a week would be acceptible.
18 hrs a week? That's kinda steep. I don't want to have to make admin time away threads when I don't feel like playing ttt that week.
the official stance has been 15 hours/ 2 weeks (7.5 for 1 week)
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Yes, 18 a week? That's a bit over 2.5 hours a day, if you work full time/go to school, have shit to do, or have a social life, that could be difficult for a lot of people.
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Yes, 18 a week? That's a bit over 2.5 hours a day, if you work full time/go to school, have shit to do, or have a social life, that could be difficult for a lot of people.
its not that read what whole said so its 1 hour per day.
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Did you read what wholegrain was quoting? I was referring to what megadave said. He suggested 18h a week, which is a lot.
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I think 15 is rather low.. usually when someone has 10-20 hours I think they haven't been playing much, I think we should just set the minimum to 10-15, with 30+ a week marking them as "exceptional" or something.. lol
Honestly, the ZPS team seems to play around 30-40 hours every 2 weeks, while I fluctuate from 40-100. So for them I would set the minimum at 20 every two weeks, but I wouldn't punish them for falling under it. I would definitely give them a talking to about it though.. basically it's just duly noted, and if they stay in the danger zone long enough, well, they lose their admin.
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I think 15 is rather low.. usually when someone has 10-20 hours I think they haven't been playing much, I think we should just set the minimum to 10-15, with 30+ a week marking them as "exceptional" or something.. lol
Honestly, the ZPS team seems to play around 30-40 hours every 2 weeks, while I fluctuate from 40-100. So for them I would set the minimum at 20 every two weeks, but I wouldn't punish them for falling under it. I would definitely give them a talking to about it though.. basically it's just duly noted, and if they stay in the danger zone long enough, well, they lose their admin.
NO LIVES! XD
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The one thing about TTT is that sometimes its a hard game to play for a long time before getting full of it and stopping for a while. Everything from being inno for 5 rounds in a row to having bad traitor rounds and especially right now, the map cycle (minecraft, 67th way, richland, repeat!). 7.5 a week is good, 18 hours is quite high.
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Just to clarify that is one of the things we are NOT changing about CG is the minimum amount to play on the server.
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School. Work. Poop.
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Just got this from smiffy, it's quite simple for some of us really.
Part 1 - The uselessness of the forums: My opinion is that the forums aren't really anything of importance to me in my admin work on the zm server, basically nothing is posted of relevance anything that is posted is usally relayed onto me by smiffy or arbys. The concept that forum activity and post count was based on admin application is just a joke, as long as we're doing a good job on the server what the hell difference does it make what the forums?
Part 2 - Popularity of the admins and the server: The server for zm is awkward, it crashes quite a number of times a day in which arbys has to restart it, the admin assistance messenger doesnt work for me at all so he is the only one we can contact and we usually notify him as soon as we notice. The server itself is usually populated and done so only by the 4 main admins in me smiffy pyro and arby, what do you expect to do without that? Another thing is many players play for our making the server fun and enjoyable; Making votes, keeping things sped up slaying/kicking inactives and playing music. If you kick us out of the admin people will inevitably ragequit the server and go to other servers like zFc which im sure nobody here would want, I myself have made more friends on the server than in other games combined, people there only play usually when an admin is on because they enjoy playing with us.
Part 3 - My reason for forum inactivity: Other than my thought of it being pointless, I do however have university and searching for a part-time job to attend. Before anyone says "Oh im at college and I'm still active" you can stuff right off cause University is like 20x more workload compared, with my other hobbies and activities as well as playing the zm server, the likeliness of my being able to check the forums is unrealistic.
Part 4 - I told you when I applied for admin my forum activity would be heavily restricted because of the university reason, you didn't seem to mind at the time!!!
You're just digging yourselves a hole by doing this, not helping Conjoint Gaming whatsoever.
Regards,
Sammeh^^ (Veteran admin for Conjoint ZM Server)
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Just got this from smiffy, it's quite simple for some of us really.
Part 1 - The uselessness of the forums: My opinion is that the forums aren't relaly anything of importance to my in my admin work on the zm server, basically nothing is posted of relevance anything that is posted is usally relayed onto me by smiffy or arbys. The concept that forum activity and post count was based on admin application is just a joke, as long as we're doing a good job on the server what the hell difference does it make what the forums?
Part 2 - Popularity of the admins and the server: The server for zm is awkward, it crashes quite a number of times a day in which arbys has to restart it, the admin assistance messenger doesnt work for me at all so he is the only one we can contact and we usually notify him as soon as we notice. The server itself is usually populated and done so only by the 4 main admins in me smiffy pyro and arby, what do you expect to do without that? Another thing is many players play for our making the server fun and enjoyable; Making votes, keeping things sped up slaying/kicking inactives. If you kick us out of the admin people will inevitably ragequit the server and go to zFc which im sure nobody here would want, I myself have made more friends on the server than in other games combined, people there only play usually when an admin is on because they enjoy playing with us.
Part 3 - My reason for forum inactivity: Other than my thought of it being pointless, I do however have university and searching for a part-time job to attend. Before anyone says "Oh im at college and I'm still active" you can stuff right off cause University is like 20x more workload compared, with my other hobbies and activities as well as playing the zm server, the likeliness of my being able to check the forums is unrealistic.
Part 4 - I told you when I applied for admin my forum activity would be heavily restricted because of the university reason, you didn't seem to mind at the time!!!
You're just digging yourselves a hole by doing this, not helping Conjoint Gaming whatsoever.
Regards,
Sammeh^^ (Veteran admin for Conjoint ZM Server)
The way I see it, if you have time to play on the server you have time to check in on the forum. When you're dead just shift+tab log in, and browse.
And you said the forums don't have anything of importance to your admin, it's not just about admin, admins need to get to know the community. I have no idea who the heck you are, same goes for a lot of people who don't post on forums. It makes sense to me that people outside of zm should at least get to know who's in the other branches of the community, but if people don't post on the forums it won't happen.
By the way, in part 2 of your post, you sound very arrogant when you say everybody is going to ragequit the server if you lost your admin. I'm not going to further comment on that.
My point is, you have almost been registered for a year and have 33 posts. If someone tried, they could get that in two days. We want players to register on the forums to help CG expand, if they love playing with the admins on zm so much they're probably going to be disappointed if they register and find half of them aren't active on the forums. forum activity does = profit for CG via ads you know, you could at least view it as trying to support the community.
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Admin should be viewed on hours played BEFORE forum activity.
"By the way, in part 2 of your post, you sound very arrogant when you say everybody is going to ragequit the server if you lost your admin. I'm not going to further comment on that.
Arrogant eh? No wonder I don't go on when someone as rude as you is part of the community.
You wouldnt understand as you don't play the zm server, if you again bothered to read the entire post, the admins are very popular and quite a few people only really play when the admins are on. FOR EXAMPLE:
15:40 - Spade: Want to post something on my behalf real quick?
15:41 - Sammeh^^: Yeah I can bring it up in a post.
15:43 - Spade: ''You say admins need to get to know the community, but in the games that we play, all of us regulars are really attached to these admins. By being frequent players and great administrators they've helped keep the community in these games fun and fresh for people. Regardless of the amount that he's posted on the forums, he's a massive part in why that server still thrives. Most people would just switch over to one of the other top servers for the game if it wasn't for Sammy and Smiffys adminship.''
15:45 - Spade: Im pretty proud to be part of the community, if not for the awesome people, it's for the quality of the admins i've encountered... Most other servers dont have that, and thats what makes the CG ZM server really really special.
15:48 - Spade: Seen. Like, i look at my friends list now, and all except like 8 people are people who i met on the CG ZM server, and most of them still go on there to play because of you, arby, smiffy and pyro. You keep the community going, and without that, it's just a subpar zombie game where it's impossible to select your units as the zm.
15:48 - Spade: So i dont see the point in removing you guys for lact of forum activity
"My point is, you have almost been registered for a year and have 33 posts. If someone tried, they could get that in two days. We want players to register on the forums to help CG expand, if they love playing with the admins on zm so much they're probably going to be disappointed if they register and find half of them aren't active on the forums. forum activity does = profit for CG via ads you know, you could at least view it as trying to support the community." Is what you say.
So CG only care for the profit? With people donating so much I don't see the need. Plus what has the money generated done for zm? We were told ages ago we were getting a new server and yet I don't seem to see anything on that.
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I'm sorry, I wan't trying to be rude, just trying to get my point across. Anyway, I'm not saying that CG is alll about the money, it is far from that, but to quote the steam page 'CG is a buisness as well as a community' It does need revenue to survive, server hosting costs money and just because we ha. ve generous donors doesn't mean we shouldn't try to make a stable income. Relying on donations is a bad idea. Okay back on topic: forum activity.
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1. Sammy, your posting now shows exactly why we need admins to be active on the forums, so that opinions such as yours will not go unnoticed. I, however, disagree. You may be a good admin on ZM, but i've never heard of you in my life. If we are to be a "community" then we should communicate. Simple as that, i have no argument otherwise and do not wish to be argued at on this point.
2. Sorry for not being active on the forums and not playing much recently. I will devote more time to CG, end of story. Such a good online community deserves attention of its admins, after all :) I shouldn't forget why i'm happy to be here.
EDIT: also, i'm still a trial admin on the forums. Just sayin
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question. Is Sammy the same person as Symmy? Who the hell is Symmy cause ive never heard of them but they are an admin on TTT.
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Nah, no idea who the hell you're on about, don't play TTT only Zombie Master for CG
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Then whos Symmy????????????
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1. Sammy, your posting now shows exactly why we need admins to be active on the forums, so that opinions such as yours will not go unnoticed. I, however, disagree. You may be a good admin on ZM, but i've never heard of you in my life. If we are to be a "community" then we should communicate. Simple as that, i have no argument otherwise and do not wish to be argued at on this point.
2. Sorry for not being active on the forums and not playing much recently. I will devote more time to CG, end of story. Such a good online community deserves attention of its admins, after all :) I shouldn't forget why i'm happy to be here.
EDIT: also, i'm still a trial admin on the forums. Just sayin
Contradictory, you dont know who we re cause nobody here ever plays zm, and you just proved that tf2 and ttt players never play zombie master and you also just proved that you dont post often yourself. How are we supposed to get noticed when nobody from the community ever bothers to play it? Inject knows me not as he comes of every now and then!
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Personally I believe that the community has a problem in itself. The concept that the forums should be used to know each other isn't great. I think we need more community events where the members AND admins get together and play a specific game. This applies to EVERYONE this way we can get to know each other much better. If you guys actually bothered to play zm or another of the servers CG own rather than just you're own then you wouldnt be bitching to me that none of you know me, you'd both know myself and the other zm admins more!
I know im guilty of this too, I only play zm but im willing to play on events of tf2 and other servers.
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Symmy is symbols, I dunno if he's active anymore. He used to be around a while ago.
I know a ton of non ttt members via vent and forums, pills is super active on forum for example. I don't need to play Zm to get to know you and vice versa.
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Im just making a suggestion, and you obviously do cause you dont know me at all. If people bothered to play the mods they can get for free then they could get to know everyone really easily. The zm server is only ever played on by my, arbys, smiffy, pyro and occasionally Inject, none of the admins in the community ever bother to give it a go.
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Im just making a suggestion, and you obviously do cause you dont know me at all. If people bothered to play the mods they can get for free then they could get to know everyone really easily. The zm server is only ever played on by my, arbys, smiffy, pyro and occasionally Inject, none of the admins in the community ever bother to give it a go.
So you're implying that community events are not a good idea? Correct me if im wrong but surely it is FAR better than just forum posting, the zm forum is dusty and just has cobwebs because only 5 admins from the community play it... none of the others even thouch it! You're telling us to be active for a forum area that isn't even used, how the hell do you expect us to comment on games we arent familiar with!!!!!!
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Are you talking to yourself?? I'm confused. Anyway, the point of the forum is to unite those who don't play on eachother's servers, I don't play zm you don't play ttt, but if you're on the forums you still can get to know the other players. Ventrilo is also fantastic for this. You're complaining about zps not getting noticied but if more admins were on the forum it might get more attention.
Also, you don't have to post in zm section. Btw I'm conused whether we're talking about zm or zps so I say both. By the way the reason I don't know you is because unlike others you're not[\] in vent or forums.
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When the hell did I mention zps at all? Im talking about zombie master as I always have, im just saying that other than the forums which seem to cause all this problem, why the hell not make events... Plus as I've said, forums are complicated, if you didn't bother reading properly the zm forums are dead, and nobody posts there, there is no point. We cant post on other threads cause we dont play there!
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Im just making a suggestion, and you obviously do cause you dont know me at all. If people bothered to play the mods they can get for free then they could get to know everyone really easily. The zm server is only ever played on by my, arbys, smiffy, pyro and occasionally Inject, none of the admins in the community ever bother to give it a go.
You're contradicting yourself. You just said you don't have time to open your browser, type in your log-in informations and at least VIEW the most recent threads which may be relevant to you or the ZM community, but now you're suggesting TTT/TF2 and what-not admins that also have a personal life to take care of to help populate the server they didn't even apply to be an admin on? I'm sorry, not trying to be rude, but it's not our fault the ZM server is empty. Not saying it's yours either (nor the CL's), but when you signed up to be an admin, you compromised yourself to also be a part of the community, that INCLUDES checking the forums at least once every 2 or 3 days. And we also have the other sections of the forums, like the off-topic section and such, which we use when we're too lazy to actually check the relevant part of the forums to know the community better. parrot
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I never said the zm server is empty, I said the thread for zm is never used, I rarely ever have time to check the forums, I have essays due every week which count towards grades. Yeah I maybe slightly contradicting myself but I still stand by the fact that there isnt enough on the forums for us to reply to, even the other extra posts are totally irrelevant for me personally, the fact that you're forcing me to be active on the forums is silly considering im aiding the community in the zm server. I still state that this entire admin watch should be reviewed on hours played.
Source SDK Base 2006
55.9 hrs / 234.5 hrs
Last 2 weeks/ Since I started playing CG zm server in September.
I dont see how you can criticise that amout of work I'm putting into the server to keep it busy and fun!
EDIT: I think I have said more than enough to back my case, knowing that when wholegrain and the other leaders come on they will likely get bored reading my replies to you guys there is no need to carry on after I have more than reasonably argued myself and the other zm admin(s) cause.
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27hours a week is a lot of free time. That's 4hours a day. Try taking 10 min out of each day and check forums. Simple as that.
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(Definately my last post) But theres nothing to check! Never is! It's just a waste of my time!!!
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If there's honestly nowhere for you to post just log in, check announcements, check admin office for important stuff, and log out. I'm sure there was at least one thread you could've posted in in the last 2 months. This isn't the first thread saying admins need to be active on the forum you know. I guess you missed the last one. But the way off topic board is a goood place to post, you can talk about whatever. You also can start threads too.
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(Definately my last post) But theres nothing to check! Never is! It's just a waste of my time!!!
Clearly you're a waste of CG's time then. You started posting in this thread with useful input and then decided to leave the community? Great gameplan.
My ZPS admins may not all post on the forums but they stay updated on the community by checking the forums, I know because they often message me and bring up things I posted on the forums. Not all of them know what to post though, and generally avoid doing so. I could get them to post more if it's an issue, but like the ZM server we feel like outcasts.
Nobody on the forums really plays ZPS except a handful, mostly veterans who play all the time(Krolin, Doc, Kingtrue, Tictac) and same for the other games. Each game has it's own little community, which is one of the biggest flaws of CG imo.
I think it's safe to say, it's easier to like someone you've talked to on the mic or played a game with, than just trying to like them based off their forum posts. Especially when they're as illiterate as some people are..
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(Definately my last post) But theres nothing to check! Never is! It's just a waste of my time!!!
Clearly you're a waste of CG's time then. You started posting in this thread with useful input and then decided to leave the community? Great gameplan.
My ZPS admins may not all post on the forums but they stay updated on the community by checking the forums, I know because they often message me and bring up things I posted on the forums. Not all of them know what to post though, and generally avoid doing so. I could get them to post more if it's an issue, but like the ZM server we feel like outcasts.
Nobody on the forums really plays ZPS except a handful, mostly veterans who play all the time(Krolin, Doc, Kingtrue, Tictac) and same for the other games. Each game has it's own little community, which is one of the biggest flaws of CG imo.
I think it's safe to say, it's easier to like someone you've talked to on the mic or played a game with, than just trying to like them based off their forum posts. Especially when they're as illiterate as some people are..
This. Like many have said being an admin is part community forum, part ingame but you're are being to thick skulled to understand that apparently. So I suggest that if you don't want to do both just leave or next time make an admin away from forum thread. Not that hard.
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Sigh.
Ok. Here is the deal Sammy: It is a requirement in keeping your admin. If you don't want to do a simple check in, say once a week, which won't take 2 minutes to do, then why keep you?
ZM is "different" in some aspects. So? TTT is very different, yet, admins there have to check in. ZPS? Different, but they have to check in. TF2? Yep, different. And they have to check in, too.
Further, the soon to be new forum will have more impact on the day-to-day admin, even with ZM.
In addition, WE LOOK AT THE ACTIVITY OF THE FORUMS TO GUAGE ISSUES, EVENTS, AND WHETHER OR NOT TO KEEP CERTAIN SERVERS ONLINE.
Do not want to post here, or even check here, as several of your ZM admin also do not check in? Congrats, you are negatively impacting the ZM server!
Oh, and simply this: Want the ZM server back up after it crashes? Log in and post in the Shoutbox. This way more people who CAN restart it, see the server is down...
Gee, another negative impact from NOT using the forums.
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The Forums and Vent CENTRALIZE the community so yes pillz if you feel like outsiders maybe hop on vent more where we all stay? possibly hop on minecraft with us all and just chill on vent while doing so.
It is the glue that holds this community together.
Also the OFFICIAL requirements to get or keep admin are
-Must be at LEAST 15 years old.
-Must have at LEAST 7.5 hours in the server you are applying for every week. (15 per 2 weeks look on your steam page to see how much you have played)
-MUST HAVE A BARE MINIMUM OF 20 NON-SPAM POSTS ON THE FORUM. We do require our current admins to be active on the forums as well. It lets us know "Hey, I am here, and up to date with you guys". Plus, it's good way to get to know more of the community. Please do NOT necro posts (post to threads that are "dead," or have not been posted to in the past few weeks.) Doing so will have consequences, like having your application denied...
so as you see it is a mixture.
Also I removed ALL ADMINS that didn't even go on the forums ONCE not once (say it again) NOT ONE TIME VIEWING THE FORUMS in a 2 month period up until now. If you don't even bother to at least even read the forums you have no right to be admin.
Honestly if I see some posts here and there you are fine. We are not intensely strict on it.
Although Arbys if head admin if you are not meeting the requirements you may get a warning and if it persists get suspended and may re apply at a later time.
CG getting people on the forums to get money from ad revenue?
Holes in your theory
1. Ad revenue is on WHO clicks it not WHO comes on the forums
2. We get like $5 a month from ads which pays like what vent? (I still pay $45 out of my pocket a month for our serverbox)
3. Most members have ad blockers
also CG uses something like $90 a month now for everything so $5 doesn't even really dent our budget.
Also you being lazy and not wanting to go on the forums let me tell you what I am doing for this community tomorrow
I am dedicating an entire day ( COULD BE FUCKING DRUNK AND FUCKING BITCHES OR GETING FUCKING MONEY GRRR XD) to GOING OUT buying ram going to the data center (DON'T HAVE A CAR AND THE TRAIN STOPS A MILE AWAY FROM THE DATACENTER) walk a fucking mile to the dc (datacenter) talk to the staff pull the box WALK ANOTHER MILE BACK TO THE TRAIN go home swap out ram (IF I EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT SCREWDRIVERS) go back take train walk mile put serverbox back walk another mile.
Oh and the train costs like $20 for all trips and I am not getting paid and really could have been doing so much better shit with my time.
ZM and ZPS are mods TF2 and TTT are games
you can do so much more with garrymod and tf2 in terms of gamemodes than ZPS and ZM (more flexible).
Also trying to make it seem like it is a cross community server flame war doesn't really help either.
Honestly I barely even know and I HAVE played on the zm server
FYI if you were active on the forums you would also know sammeh that ALL HEAD ADMINS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS HAVE ACCESS TO RESTART ALL THE SERVERS ON THE MAINBOX. If you were active you would have realized that at least 10 of us can restart the box if you even knew WHO we were and WHAT we did.
MOVING ON WITH THE ORIGINAL TOPIC ALL POSTS THAT MAY CONTRIBUTE TO A FLAME WAR WILL BE REMOVED AT THIS POINT WITHOUT OR WITH THE NOTIFICATION OF THAT MEMBER
nothing to see here everything is solved move along discuss inactivty even more
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BIG YELLOW FONT THAT HURTS MY EYES
So uh, yeah guys heading on the forums is probably a good idea so you can stay up to date and stuff.
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Why is this even a problem?
It isn't a hard concept, you come onto the forums to know what is going on in the community... it takes like five minutes to check through some of the recent threads. Maybe post something to put your input on an issue you think is important.
AND NOW FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT:
Israel has defined the mass stealing of credit card numbers as terrorism (paraphrasing).
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Funny story:
The two communities that say they feel like outsiders are both saying they don't see a reason to post on the fourms. The rest of CG doesn't see ourselves split by server because we all shoot the breeze about a variety of things, some are not even game related. We get to know each other by talking, not forcing people to play games they may not enjoy. I particularly don't care for ZPS or ZM.
tl;dr
You want to feel like a part of the community come to the fourms. You want to be an outcast, don't post.
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Yep, i pretty much agree with the last 4 posts. I don't think anything else really needs to be said.
Also yeah, vent + minecraft is pretty good idea, because most people like minecraft anyway