Conjoint Gaming [Game On]
CG Gaming Section => Zombie Panic: Source => Topic started by: Smiley on December 21, 2013, 06:22:39 PM
-
So i'm here again, i just wanted to ask everyone's opinion if i should be a admin or not. I understand that you guys hate the hackers in game and i just wanted to apologize for hacking back then and i wont do it anymore. I really want to be admin because i'm in the server everyday for at least like 5-8 hours and watching the button spammers, mic spammers and hackers. I want to be a admin soon to take care of all of those problems. I know it's only been a few weeks but I just want to know if I even have a chance at becoming admin because I'd really like to help out more.
-
We kind of have a zero tolerance policy for hacking. I vote no.
-
We kind of have a zero tolerance policy for hacking. I vote no.
Zero tolerance?
No Cheating / Vac Bans, Hacking, trolling, or Minging other communities, or clans within the last 6 months or of CG at any time.
Seems time based, and given ZPS's state and his helpfulness as of late; I'd be willing to look the other way given the community is okay with it. We could wait five or six months though, if Smiley would be willing to wait that long that is. He's helped ban at least two hackers so far, and has kept the server more alive than it's ever been since I first started playing ZPS. I'd really like to give him a chance.
-
I'm completely fine with him being an admin.
-
I'm completely fine with him being an admin.
Same, keep your nose clean and I think you'll be a great admin
-
Don't we have a thing about waiting 3 months or so before reapplying? He applied 29/30th of Nov, so it should probably stay til 29th/30th of Jan.
And the bans from what I've seen are mostly been from within six months. Using US MM/DD/YY instead of DD/MM/YY. And even some using normal DMY. So again, you're either going to stick with formalities, or remove that for everyone.
-
I'm not reapplying day i'm just asking everyone's opinion.
-
Today*
-
Just FYI, there's a modify button to the right of your post. You should use it instead of double-posting.
On-topic, asking us for our opinion isn't really going to do anything. Just as long as you follow rules/regs, and prove yourself to be a viable choice. Then that's when you can think about it. That's what you should be aiming for if you'd like to apply.
So TL;DR wait a few months until bans are past 6 months (most of which are or nearly are, just one that's most recent. So it should be close). Prove yourself a good player and then we'd all be happy to see how you do.
-
Just FYI, there's a modify button to the right of your post. You should use it instead of double-posting.
On-topic, asking us for our opinion isn't really going to do anything. Just as long as you follow rules/regs, and prove yourself to be a viable choice. Then that's when you can think about it. That's what you should be aiming for if you'd like to apply.
So TL;DR wait a few months until bans are past 6 months (most of which are or nearly are, just one that's most recent. So it should be close). Prove yourself a good player and then we'd all be happy to see how you do.
I mean he's already proved himself to me to be a good player, and some of the bans aren't even his but his cousins who gave him the account. He's got WAY more than the standard 7.5 hours per week and has helped so much; it's kind of ridiculous IMO that the most obvious candidate for admin can't apply for another four months.
Don't we have a thing about waiting 3 months or so before reapplying? He applied 29/30th of Nov, so it should probably stay til 29th/30th of Jan.
And the bans from what I've seen are mostly been from within six months. Using US MM/DD/YY instead of DD/MM/YY. And even some using normal DMY. So again, you're either going to stick with formalities, or remove that for everyone.
NOTE: Head Admins have the right to adjust the requirements for their specific servers. This includes adding to, or removing requirements. Please check with the Head Admin of the server you wish to apply for BEFORE you apply, to ensure you meet all requirements.
ZPS has never really followed formalities and I wish I had asked him to wait until he made his first application; I definitely jumped the gun and I feel that was MY mistake, not his. I'm just a little bummed because we only have Vet admins who play from time to time, and I mean~ "Smiley- 52.3 hours past 2 weeks".. this guy has been nothing but awesome and it just feels completely pointless to wait another four months before letting him try being an admin. He might not be as active then and who knows if our server will even be around anymore then.
I've always stood by the fact that trial admin is a trial period to see if people can be admins; and while I understand his ban for "spinhacking?" complicates things, I believe he should have a chance.
-
I've seen this feller' a lot on zps and I know he tries to help out with the CG server.
But I do think that the he needs to wait the 6 months.
I'm getting lazy explaining...
-
I've seen this feller' a lot on zps and I know he tries to help out with the CG server.
But I do think that the he needs to wait the 6 months.
I'm getting lazy explaining...
Aside from formality and it being a longtime CG rule; is there any reason we should wait? I mean I agree we SHOULD wait but what exactly does waiting SIX months even do?
I mean I guess I'm fine with continuing to have no admins, but it's been a long time since we've had a new one and it's been years since anyone was as active as him.. Kind of desperate to keep the server I guess.
-
I've seen this feller' a lot on zps and I know he tries to help out with the CG server.
But I do think that the he needs to wait the 6 months.
I'm getting lazy explaining...
Aside from formality and it being a longtime CG rule; is there any reason we should wait? I mean I agree we SHOULD wait but what exactly does waiting SIX months even do?
I mean I guess I'm fine with continuing to have no admins, but it's been a long time since we've had a new one and it's been years since anyone was as active as him.. Kind of desperate to keep the server I guess.
Well like I said on his admin application, he's going to be representing CG.
Because right now, he's already has issues with other communities/clans relating to ZPS.
Obviously this makes CG looks bad if becomes admin. We'd be harboring a hacker and such.
If he wants admin that badly he should honestly wait, people will forget. Patience is a virtue.
-
So how much should i wait for 6 months?
-
If you really want to be admin, then you should post some ban reports on anyone you find that breaks the rules. Because it's all well and good wanting to become admin. But there's wanting to be admin for the sake of it, and wanting admin to help out. You're... eagerness is most common in people of the former. So hence my reservations.
-
If you really want to be admin, then you should post some ban reports on anyone you find that breaks the rules. Because it's all well and good wanting to become admin. But there's wanting to be admin for the sake of it, and wanting admin to help out. You're... eagerness is most common in people of the former. So hence my reservations.
Your*
Again, he only ever asked for admin because I noticed immediately he was a nicer guy than the regulars and told him we were looking for help. It was then I told him he should play on the server for a week or two and make a few posts on the forums before applying and he did. He made his application because I told him too, and today he was asking about having at least the mute and kick commands and I explained I can't really do that unless he gets admin and he wanted to know if he'd ever have a shot at it at all; so with my permission he made this thread to see what the deal is, because I'm curious as well.
He hasn't posted the ban requests he made to me on the forums, but he privately sent me two separate reports of hackers on the servers that I looked into, and banned. He's also called me into the server plenty of times to mute spammers, and to kick/ban rule breakers. There aren't that many in ZPS though, I've seen less than 20 hackers on our ZPS server over the past 3-4 years and most rulebreakers are just micspammers. It's a SIMPLE server to administrate and Smiley is more capable of being admin than some of our Veteran admins who have had spouts of inactivity amongst other problems.
He's had a lot of insightful input he's posted on new maps and the removal of others, if you check his posts. He happily greets every player who joins the server and suggests occasionally that people register on our forum to join CG. He's going to be on our server EIGHT HOURS EVERY DAY this Christmas break while I won't even be on 1/10th of that. Shit, he should be HA. (Just kidding, that's my forever job.)
Already, he is a better admin than some of the admins in CG; who just play the game semi-regularly and don't contribute aside from an occasional ban or kick. Of course he "WANTS" admin, he feels helpless without it and has to wait for me to come online to mute/ban people and when he has to play for 4 hours before I can come on and mute the kids screaming into their mics. Because he wears our tag and enforces the rules so much; PEOPLE ALREADY THINK HE'S AN ADMIN. I told him early on that I thought he'd have the chance to be an admin soon if he plays actively and does good; and he's been doing his best.
He would be glad to live without having admin, but only if other admins take his place. I have a feeling we're not going to get any more enthusiastic players on ZPS in a long time.
TLDR He is the epitome of wanting admin to help out.
I've seen this feller' a lot on zps and I know he tries to help out with the CG server.
But I do think that the he needs to wait the 6 months.
I'm getting lazy explaining...
Aside from formality and it being a longtime CG rule; is there any reason we should wait? I mean I agree we SHOULD wait but what exactly does waiting SIX months even do?
I mean I guess I'm fine with continuing to have no admins, but it's been a long time since we've had a new one and it's been years since anyone was as active as him.. Kind of desperate to keep the server I guess.
Well like I said on his admin application, he's going to be representing CG.
Because right now, he's already has issues with other communities/clans relating to ZPS.
Obviously this makes CG looks bad if becomes admin. We'd be harboring a hacker and such.
If he wants admin that badly he should honestly wait, people will forget. Patience is a virtue.
This is true, although he did play under a different name when he was banned.. as long as he's connected to that SteamID though I guess it doesn't matter.
I just feel like the past will be the same in 4-5 months and that's four months where we could of had one of the most active admins we've ever had. I do agree with you though, this is just so incredibly inconvenient for the ZPS server, him and I. I don't imagine CG can look too much worse than it already does after recent events but I guess every little bit helps.
I feel like after pushing for Crypto's unban people will start to think I don't care about the rules, but at least with Smiley we'd be getting some serious help.
How about this, instead of waiting another 4 months for his hacking in October(which just seems pointless to me anyway, but eh), how about we just wait the two months he needs to wait to reapply? That way he can continue playing with CG and people can join ZPS and hang out with him and I; and he can reapply in February?
This way it's not as ridiculous of a timeframe to wait; and perhaps if he donates or something I can give him the power to mute as a perk?
-
Alright, 2 months seems reasonable. I've trust your judgement over these years and you've never been wrong.
I've always had my doubts about him for admin, but there are no better, or other candidates.
Good Luck Smiley, Hope to play zps with you, preferably not a deathrun map.
-
Alright, 2 months seems reasonable. I've trust your judgement over these years and you've never been wrong.
I've always had my doubts about him for admin, but there are no better, or other candidates.
Good Luck Smiley, Hope to play zps with you, preferably not a deathrun map.
It is because dox can't use his haxor powerz. Also I agree with the 2 month wait period, it will give us time and not make it ridiculously long wait time. ZPS doesn't really have a lot of admins like TTT. XP
-
So yeah i will wait two months to at least be a trial admin. I really do enjoy playing the Zombie Panic source server. Doc you should play tomorrow with me if you see me on. parrot
-
I'd say yes from hearing all the good things you helped and no because of hacking... :-\ but youll have my vote
-
Thanks cannon but its all late gotta wait 2 months! ;D