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CG Administration Section => Admin Department => Admin Abuse => Topic started by: andyoh0123 on July 21, 2013, 03:07:12 AM
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Name of player reporting abuse: Andyoh
Server: ttt
Admin who is suspected of the abuse: Äante the Äaemon
In which server did the abuse occur?: ttt
What occurred, what did the abuse consist of: Wrongful slay, wrongful call-outs, threaten to ban with ill-reasoning (reason: ragequit)
What time and day did it happen (put down your time zone too): 7/19 (ragequit threat + wrongful slay); 7/20 (wrongful KOSing)
Please link any evidence (videos, screen shots, etc.):
7/19 Dante talks about banning Energizer for ragequitting after a mute
http://gyazo.com/51d63ee87ab40e896962d1b029182ab4.png
7/19 location I landed where I was threatened a slay
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/andyoh0123/Garrys%20Mod/dant2_zps7afb1ea2.jpg
7/19 location I was slain at
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/andyoh0123/Garrys%20Mod/dant3_zpsb1bbeec1.jpg
7/20 Dante stating electrifying the axe is killable and him killing me another round for doing it again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTlxfV3ubH4&feature=youtu.be
(Video currently uploading)
Additional comments:
On 7/19 Dante said that he could have banned Energizer for "rage quitting, along with other reasons". Later that day on the map camel, I was slain for discombob-jumping to the small building; Dante said that discombob-jumping was considered glitching and he could ban me for 1 hour.
I understand my proof against the slay here is vague but I'm sure Dante will admit to slaying me.
On 7/20 Dante said that simply electrifying the axe was KOSable. I was killed once for simply carrying the axe by another player and Dante took no action against him. Later he saw me electrify the axe and simply killed me.
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Ok, Dante, please re-read the rules. 1. First of all, energizer probably had a claim if rdm against him, and that is why Dante could have banned him, no problems there. 2. Discombobs jumping is not glicthing if it was the only means used to get to an area, unless Cortez wants to clarify otherwise. 3. Simply electrifying the axe is not traitorous, carrying it towards someone is. Not carrying it in the direction of someone, but exactly towards them. Not really admin abuse in this case, but andyoh is a regular, so if everything checks out, Dante should really just need clarification on what is killable/glicthing.
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It was still inside the map so it wasn't glitching
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While I've been on, only really dodgy things I've seen him do were some quite unfair slays and some out of order kills. Can't name any but there were a few.
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Looks like a total bunch of bad administrating to me. Carrying the axe isn't killable, it's not traitorous If it's not electrified, if it's electrified it's still not traitorous, if you carry it towards some while it's electrified, it's traitorous. Discombob jumping over to the roof shown in picture isn't even slayable. It's like discombob jumping over to the construction site from the prison in the old 67th way. (there's a ladder in the current version.) However, if they jump on all the rubble to get to higher places where you wouldn't generally expect someone to be, or if they have an unfair advantage, it's slayable. (glitching.) Discombob jumping to the roof in the picture has no unfair advantage, infact someone in the tower at the back of the map would have an advantage, because you're extremely exposed on that roof. You can't ban someone for ragequitting or leaving when you've muted them, If they come back, you remute them. You don't ban them. You mute them to stop them talking in-game, what's the point in banning them if they leave when you muted them? they're not going to be able to talk either way. In the picture andy was slain at was a fair slay. You're not allowed up there anyway. It's glitching and you can be slain, but not for being on the roof infront.
Dante you need to go and read the rules and ask questions if you're not sure.
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Dante, as a general rule if thumb, if you aren't 110% sure, don't proceed with that action until you are.
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Most of what andyoh is saying is a lie, he is a known troll and let me prove it by debunking what he said.
7/19 Dante talks about banning Energizer for ragequitting after a mute
http://gyazo.com/51d63ee87ab40e896962d1b029182ab4.png
I said that sarcastically for one. You also didn't hear him blow up admin chat after trying to evade a mute. I could have banned him for avoiding the mute.
7/19 location I landed where I was threatened a slay
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/andyoh0123/Garrys%20Mod/dant2_zps7afb1ea2.jpg
No I threatened to slay you because you jumped behind the building and were walking behind the invisible barrier. You even hid behind the obvious walls, which you didn't take a screen shot of. Then when you said you were going to get out you procrastinated and got further away from the only way out. So your telling 1/10th of the story.
7/20 Dante stating electrifying the axe is killable and him killing me another round for doing it again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTlxfV3ubH4&feature=youtu.be
I warned you because a Vet admin told me it was, you ignored me and blew me off like you always do when I try to get you to follow the rules.
I said I am SUPPOSE to ban you for glitching, I didn't. I gave you ample opportunity to get out yourself, you choose to goof around and blow me off like you always do. Not to mention you tried getting behind the map a Second time the next round, trying to bring Dark Yellow with you. Which I told you twice in round not to do.
Andyoh you are a troll, you are also an rdmer. You ignore me when ever I tell you not to break the rules. You even stated yourself you only go onto TTT to troll. Why you are still here I will never know.
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Most of what andyoh is saying is a lie, he is a known troll and let me prove it by debunking what he said.
Andyoh is a regular and pretty much never trolls from what I see. Honestly he knows the rules as well as any regular, and ive never had a problem with him. I cant even recall ever slaying him.
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Looks like a total bunch of bad administrating to me.
Yes don't let me tell my side of the story judge on one persons post.
Carrying the axe isn't killable, it's not traitorous If it's not electrified, if it's electrified it's still not traitorous, if you carry it towards some while it's electrified, it's traitorous.
A vet told me electrifying it is Traitorous. So I went off of that. Not to mention I didn't punish him till he killed 3 people including a detective with it.
Discombob jumping over to the roof shown in picture isn't even slayable. It's like discombob jumping over to the construction site from the prison in the old 67th way. (there's a ladder in the current version.) However, if they jump on all the rubble to get to higher places where you wouldn't generally expect someone to be, or if they have an unfair advantage, it's slayable. (glitching.) Discombob jumping to the roof in the picture has no unfair advantage, infact someone in the tower at the back of the map would have an advantage, because you're extremely exposed on that roof.
He went behind the building were the walls are that protect him from getting shot. He litteraly got out of cover for a few seconds (Picture shown) And went back into it.
You can't ban someone for ragequitting or leaving when you've muted them, If they come back, you remute them. You don't ban them. You mute them to stop them talking in-game, what's the point in banning them if they leave when you muted them? they're not going to be able to talk either way.
It was sarcasm to old cg members that were on. Renember when Ragequiting was a perma ban? Thats what I was refrencing. Energizer was lucky I didn't ban him for, Trolling, Admin Disrespect, Avoiding Mute, and Spamming admin chat ONTOP of rdm.
In the picture andy was slain at was a fair slay. You're not allowed up there anyway. It's glitching and you can be slain, but not for being on the roof infront.
I didn't slay him on the roof, I slayed him when he went back into cover from that picture. I told him if he goes down there like he was saying he was suppose to I was suppose to punish him. He did exactly that.
Dante you need to go and read the rules and ask questions if you're not sure.
The only thing I wasn't sure was the electric axe and I believed the Vet that told me.
Next time guys please don't make judgement without the other person posting.
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Most of what andyoh is saying is a lie, he is a known troll and let me prove it by debunking what he said.
Andyoh is a regular and pretty much never trolls from what I see. Honestly he knows the rules as well as any regular, and ive never had a problem with him. I cant even recall ever slaying him.
I have seen him troll other players, admin disrespect and completely ignore me. I have slain him several times for killing people with props, electric axe (He killed 5 people), and general rdm.
That means you he either does it only when I am on and no admins are on, or he does it all the time and you just never happened to see it.
Edit: You also start to notice the trolls when you played for 18 hours every day for the past week.
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Carrying the axe isn't killable, it's not traitorous If it's not electrified, if it's electrified it's still not traitorous, if you carry it towards some while it's electrified, it's traitorous.
A vet told me electrifying it is Traitorous. So I went off of that. Not to mention I didn't punish him till he killed 3 people including a detective with it.
I thought it was kill-able as-well.
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Fyi I just reread the rules the only thing I didn't know about was that you can do 2 warning shots for following and say nothing.
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Perhaps instead of condemning an admin for badadmining we should hear his/her side of the story first? Along with all the screenshots and other evidence that he or she may have gathered... Would be a good idea to implement that in future admin abuse posts I think...
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Fyi I just reread the rules the only thing I didn't know about was that you can do 2 warning shots for following and say nothing.
You didn't seem to know this though: 1. Carrying the electric axe towards someone
It was under Map-Specific Traitorous Actions. Also I'm a loser so i spend many hours at a time on the server. Many times with no admins and i have never seen anything from Andyoh.
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Fyi I just reread the rules the only thing I didn't know about was that you can do 2 warning shots for following and say nothing.
You didn't seem to know this though: 1. Carrying the electric axe towards someone
It was under Map-Specific Traitorous Actions. Also I'm a loser so i spend many hours at a time on the server. Many times with no admins and i have never seen anything from Andyoh.
I did see that don't assume I didn't. If you read my posts you would know a Vet told me it is now killable to even light the axe which is what I went off of.
And I see the exact opposite taco. I see him trolling and saw him litteraly say "I only play TTT to troll." I refer to the fact Part of his claims on abuse I never did anything with. "Can be banned for rage quiting" Never banned him I was talking to old CG members. Which he knew since I told him ingame who I was talking to. He also is complaining about a just slay. Even after giving him ample opurtinity to get out on his own. Dark Yellow and Kaelthax were there and I am asking them to post here.
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Dante, we have the right to make a judgement with the information provided. Why would someone lie about an admin abusing his powers I will never know.
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Dante, we have the right to make a judgement with the information provided. Why would someone lie about an admin abusing his powers I will never know.
People have and will continue to do so, I would go on a total rant about how it's human nature, but I truly am too lazy today.
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Dante, we have the right to make a judgement with the information provided. Why would someone lie about an admin abusing his powers I will never know.
Because you are acusing me without the whole story. Which is entirely biased not to mention rude.
Why would he lie? Lets see here, he trolls me purposefully, I see him troll randoms too. He is litteraly not telling the whole story, only parts that help him and has a grudge against me for some reason.
Andyoh reminds me too much of Remscar.
Also I thought Storm of ashes (The one who told me about the axe) Was a vet.
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Stop acting so hostile. Remscar has nothing to do with this entire thing. Hes providing evidence for this entire thing, and has developed a reputation as being the kind of person who wouldn't try to troll you. Now as I read this, the things you've done seem to just show some inconsistencies with how you are administrating. As wella s giving out the wrong punishments for certain things, and otherwise being uneducated. Honestly, I think all of the admins should be mentored when they are freshly added, because this sort of thing happens wayyyy too often.
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Firstly you told me simply jumping to the building was considered killable, as you were getting ready to kill me and DarkYellow the round after that before we even did, which we were joking about; and I did go behind the walls after you already threatened to slay.
For the axe, the round that I killed 3 people with it was a few days earlier than 7/20. Also, that day I did not kill anyone with the axe, but I hid the axe and then people ran into it; a player something along the lines of Asphaltxx consistently ran into it as a joke. The round I intentionally killed 5 people with it I was a traitor. For me, electrifying the axe is always just a fun thing that makes the round more interesting.
Also I did post a while back saying "I dont even like ttt I just come to troll", and in context you could tell I was joking. You're calling me a troll but I'm always just joking around messing with some props or something goofy when you call me a troll.
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Dante, we have the right to make a judgement with the information provided. Why would someone lie about an admin abusing his powers I will never know.
Why would someone lie, well there is several reasons:
1. To get the admin in trouble.
2. To troll.
3. I'm sure there is more reasons but these will suffice.
It's not unheard of that people try to get others in trouble.
As for Andy I've never seen him troll, but that might be because he doesn't do it while I'm around.
I've also never had a problem with the way dante administrates.
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Firstly you told me simply jumping to the building was considered killable, as you were getting ready to kill me and DarkYellow the round after that before we even did, which we were joking about; and I did go behind the walls after you already threatened to slay.
First I said getting behind it is. The round after was no joke, that is a complete lie, you discombobed off nearly killing Dark Yellow and you fucked up hitting a wall, I watched you. I never punnished you for the roof and wasnt going to, I even didn't slay you since dark was going to through you a dsicombob so you could get out. And exactly you ignored me telling you not to go down there or a slay and did it anyway.
For the axe, the round that I killed 3 people with it was a few days earlier than 7/20. Also, that day I did not kill anyone with the axe, but I hid the axe and then people ran into it; a player something along the lines of Asphaltxx consistently ran into it as a joke. The round I intentionally killed 5 people with it I was a traitor. For me, electrifying the axe is always just a fun thing that makes the round more interesting.
You are lying again, you did kill 3 people on the day of that video, right after I said that you killed a Det and 2 innos.
And the round you killed 5 people I didn ban you, not because you were INNOCENT. But because you were killed and your corpse hid the axe, you intentionaly killed one then killed the rest just because the axe was under your corpse.
Also I did post a while back saying "I dont even like ttt I just come to troll", and in context you could tell I was joking. You're calling me a troll but I'm always just joking around messing with some props or something goofy when you call me a troll.
Because I have had to slay you for rdm and you insult me, regulars and try to prop kill in the beginning of the round claiming its not in the rules.
I don't take "I dont even like ttt I just come to troll" as a joke since right before you rdmed someone. There was no humor in it at all.
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Stop acting so hostile. Remscar has nothing to do with this entire thing. Hes providing evidence for this entire thing, and has developed a reputation as being the kind of person who wouldn't try to troll you. Now as I read this, the things you've done seem to just show some inconsistencies with how you are administrating. As wella s giving out the wrong punishments for certain things, and otherwise being uneducated. Honestly, I think all of the admins should be mentored when they are freshly added, because this sort of thing happens wayyyy too often.
Kwaurtz I punnish a lot lesser than I should be, After Andyoh blew me off and jumped down there *Refrencing his post* I gave him time to grab the discombob from Dark Yellow (Which he didn't) and get out instead of being slayed, which he should have been for glitching and ignoring an admin.
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Also, Dante said "Holding the axe is killable" after, a group of people said no its not, we said "Coming towards people with the axe is killable". He said he was dealing with RDM afterwards, but I still don't think it's right to mute someone for correcting an admin. (Btw, kinda understandable to mute some people because a majority of them were screaming at him.)
Edit: Reworded, I made it sound a more harsh then it was.
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Also, Dante said "Holding the axe is killable" and 10 or so people said no its not, we said "Coming towards people with the axe is killable" and he threatened to mute us..
Later then, he talked to me about correcting an admin about the rules?
I didn't mute anyone HerpDerp. I said a Vet told me it is and the entire server was screaming at once during round, I told them stop talking all at once or they would be muted. And herp derp I told you to stop screaming at me the rules since I was also dealing with rdmers and trolls, but you spammed my steam. I litteraly had to stop playing and talk you down because you would not stop spamming my steam.
It is a pain in the ass to deal with rdm and trolls when you and 10 other people are screaming over the mic and spamming me in steam.
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Dante, we have the right to make a judgement with the information provided. Why would someone lie about an admin abusing his powers I will never know.
Because you are acusing me without the whole story. Which is entirely biased not to mention rude.
Why would he lie? Lets see here, he trolls me purposefully, I see him troll randoms too. He is litteraly not telling the whole story, only parts that help him and has a grudge against me for some reason.
You know who he reminds me of? Remscar.
You know who I said was a bad person and trolled? Remscar.
Who acts like Andyoh? Remscar.
Who did everyone believe and say they didn't troll? Remscar.
Who got permanantly banned later for trolling? Remscar.
Who lied about admin abuse? Remscar.
Also I thought Storm of ashes (The one who told me about the axe) Was a vet.
Speaking of rules Dante should reread:
Conjoint Gaming Forum Rules:
1) No Personal Attacks, Flaming, Griefing, or Name Calling.
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HerpDerp isn't lying, about 6 or 7 people were saying that it is not killable and Dante threatened to mute the next person who said it for arguing with an admin.
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Dante, we have the right to make a judgement with the information provided. Why would someone lie about an admin abusing his powers I will never know.
Because you are acusing me without the whole story. Which is entirely biased not to mention rude.
No. It's not rude. I went and gave my opinion from the information that was provided in the report, the full story should be explained in the report. How was I supposed to know whether he was lying or not?
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Dante, we have the right to make a judgement with the information provided. Why would someone lie about an admin abusing his powers I will never know.
Because you are acusing me without the whole story. Which is entirely biased not to mention rude.
Why would he lie? Lets see here, he trolls me purposefully, I see him troll randoms too. He is litteraly not telling the whole story, only parts that help him and has a grudge against me for some reason.
You know who he reminds me of? Remscar.
You know who I said was a bad person and trolled? Remscar.
Who acts like Andyoh? Remscar.
Who did everyone believe and say they didn't troll? Remscar.
Who got permanantly banned later for trolling? Remscar.
Who lied about admin abuse? Remscar.
Also I thought Storm of ashes (The one who told me about the axe) Was a vet.
Speaking of rules Dante should reread:
Conjoint Gaming Forum Rules:
1) No Personal Attacks, Flaming, Griefing, or Name Calling.
Ok I will change it, i was trying to say he reminds me of Remscar so much, not personal attack.
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HerpDerp isn't lying, about 6 or 7 people were saying that it is not killable and Dante threatened to mute the next person who said it for arguing with an admin.
I never said he was lying, I said my reason for muting was because people were spamming text chat and mic chat with it.
Dante threatened to mute the next person who said it for arguing with an admin.
Again another lie. I threatened to mute all of the people screaming at once. Hell I even said through chat, Stop screaming over mic or I will mute you, I am trying to deal with rdm reports. Butt you all kept screaming.
Look andyoh I am an for around 18 hours a day. When ever you get on I always have problems with you. Like on camel where you blatantly disregarded me telling you not to go into the glitch area and tried it again the next round. I have to deal with so many "Badasses", Trolls, "Gods", racists, and homophobs, and you come on to troll and ignore me when I tell you not to do something against the rules *Camel glitch area*. I did mess up with the axe, I realize that and I apologize, but you did kill people with the axe after I told you, and you did lie several times in this thread.
Also: Later that day on the map camel, I was slain for discombob-jumping to the small building; Dante said that discombob-jumping was considered glitching and he could ban me for 1 hour.
You contradict yourself.
7/19 location I landed where I was threatened a slay
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/andyoh0123/Garrys%20Mod/dant2_zps7afb1ea2.jpg
I didn't threaten you nor slay you for the roof, I threatened a slay if you jumped behind it which you did. I also said I am suppose to ban you for an hour for it, but I was going to let dark yellow help you get out. Which you blew off, so I slayed you.
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Alright dude I don't know what to do because everything I say you claim is a lie. Everything I posted is true.
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Alright dude I don't know what to do because everything I say you claim is a lie.
I don't claim everything Is a lie I claim parts are lies or you leave out important parts.
Everything I posted is true.
No.
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Alright lets see what Cortez has to say about this please.
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I'll put in my opinion:
Dante doesn't deserve a punishment imo, he made a mistake and people were screaming at him (I was also because you kept saying the rules were different, which I am sorry) But dante made an honest mistake :/, and now he learned from it..
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I've seen Dante ignore rules several times before. I even have some evidence at home (currently at work).
He and another admin killed me for having a diamond block on Minecraft and not using it to complete the objective (An auto inno win). They both said "I'll take the slay" or something to that effect. There was no rule listed against holding/hiding them. This tells me 2 things:
1. The will break the rules when they please
2. They knew what they were doing it wrong.
Andoyh has a lot of proof and several witnesses to back him up. Dante has his word (which is in question) and I believe 1 or 2 people who may not have even been there.
ALL ADMINS, you should not contradict what he MOTD say. If an admin (any level other than Cortez) or Coder (:P) tell you to enforce a rule that goes against what the MOTD says, confirm with Cortez. It'll help avoid these problems in the future. The players will only know what is in the MOTD, do not blame them if they were not warned. It may be the case Cortez forgot to update the MOTD, a 30sec fix that will avoid complaints in the future.
Verdict: I would remove him based on the evidence by the person complaining AND his general demeanor. It seems this is not the first time he has acted like this and I doubt it'll be the last. If my evidence is necessary, I'll post it around 3:30pm - 4:00pm est.
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I've seen Dante ignore rules several times before. I even have some evidence at home (currently at work).
He and another admin killed me for having a diamond block on Minecraft and not using it to complete the objective (An auto inno win). They both said "I'll take the slay" or something to that effect. There was no rule listed against holding/hiding them. This tells me 2 things:
1. The will break the rules when they please
2. They knew what they were doing it wrong.
That was Blade not me. I didn't even kill you, I was just following you trying to force you to drop the diamond block. Nor did I ever say "I'll take the slay" You are looking at the wrong person. Also, yes there is a rule to hiding the diamond blocks.
IV. Map-Specific Traitorous Actions (Killable):
Minecraft:
1. Hiding Diamond Blocks or throwing them into lava
Andoyh has a lot of proof and several witnesses to back him up. Dante has his word (which is in question) and I believe 1 or 2 people who may not have even been there.
Andyoh has very little proof at all. I also asked Dark Yellow and Kaelthex to get on and post about it, since he did disregard me when I told him not to go behind the building.
ALL ADMINS, you should not contradict what he MOTD say. If an admin (any level other than Cortez) or Coder (:P) tell you to enforce a rule that goes against what the MOTD says, confirm with Cortez. It'll help avoid these problems in the future. The players will only know what is in the MOTD, do not blame them if they were not warned. It may be the case Cortez forgot to update the MOTD, a 30sec fix that will avoid complaints in the future.
Yes. I will do that next time.
Verdict: I would remove him based on the evidence by the person complaining AND his general demeanor. It seems this is not the first time he has acted like this and I doubt it'll be the last.
He litteraly has proof of one thing, and sorry I'm a little upset about this guy, I am on for 16-18 hours and when ever he gets on he disregards me and tries to glitch the map or prop kill. Also he only has evidence on one thing, the axe. He doesn't show that he immediately killed 3 people with the axe AND HerpDerp is talking about a different occasion. Andyoh has no witnesses to back him up, so I don't see where you get that, no one has posted about those incidents.
Two of his screen shots actually support me.
So you all in all you want me removed for a rightful slay, (look at his screen shot he was out of bounds after 4 warnings), A sarcastic joke to Chaoticats(Dante Cats), and me (which I admit to) Saying the axe is killable and shooting someone for it, because I believed the word of Storm of Ashes. Oh yeah, and because Blade killed you on minecraft for running away with the diamond block, which he reasoned was a traitorous act since it was the very last one we needed.
That doesn't seem fair at all, especially the last part. That wasn't even me.
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7/19 Dante talks about banning Energizer for ragequitting after a mute
http://gyazo.com/51d63ee87ab40e896962d1b029182ab4.png
7/19 location I landed where I was threatened a slay
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/andyoh0123/Garrys%20Mod/dant2_zps7afb1ea2.jpg
7/19 location I was slain at
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/andyoh0123/Garrys%20Mod/dant3_zpsb1bbeec1.jpg
7/20 Dante stating electrifying the axe is killable and him killing me another round for doing it again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTlxfV3ubH4&feature=youtu.be
7/19 -> I agree not proof.
7/20 -> that's as solid as proof gets. He didn't chase anyone. You even said "I told you it was traitorous" but the MOTD says otherwise. The only time another admin should tell you of a rule is when nothing is there on the MOTD.
As for the Minecraft incident -> " Hiding Diamond Blocks or throwing them into lava" I was holding it. Therefor I never threw it / hid it. I didn't run into nether and I actually stayed close to the oven until you AND blade said you were gonna kill me. I was killed in the middle of the map, not really a place to hide it. I couldn't put it in the T room from that side, which i why I walked AWAY from the T room door.
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7/19 Dante talks about banning Energizer for ragequitting after a mute
http://gyazo.com/51d63ee87ab40e896962d1b029182ab4.png
7/19 location I landed where I was threatened a slay
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/andyoh0123/Garrys%20Mod/dant2_zps7afb1ea2.jpg
7/19 location I was slain at
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/andyoh0123/Garrys%20Mod/dant3_zpsb1bbeec1.jpg
7/20 Dante stating electrifying the axe is killable and him killing me another round for doing it again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTlxfV3ubH4&feature=youtu.be
7/19 -> I agree not proof.
7/20 -> that's as solid as proof gets. He didn't chase anyone. You even said "I told you it was traitorous" but the MOTD says otherwise. The only time another admin should tell you of a rule is when nothing is there on the MOTD.
As for the Minecraft incident -> " Hiding Diamond Blocks or throwing them into lava" I was holding it. Therefor I never threw it / hid it. I didn't run into nether and I actually stayed close to the oven until you AND blade said you were gonna kill me. I was killed in the middle of the map, not really a place to hide it. I couldn't put it in the T room from that side, which i why I walked AWAY from the T room door.
I never killed you. I wasn't even going to. I was LYING to get you to drop the diamond block "Oh shit they will shoot me if I don't drop it!" Blade actually shot you. And the reason I brought up the rule is you said hiding the block isn't kill able.
As for 720 The round before like 1/4th of the server died because someone (Might be andyoh can't remember) dropped the axe which clipped into a corpse, so no one could see it. And I admitted that I was wrong about the axe, I thought I was suppose to do what ever higher level admins said in regard to punishments and rules.
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It appears to me that this thread has been convoluted with a lot of bullshit. From what I can tell, there have been wrongs done by both sides. While Dante may have been wrong in the slay ( I checked out the spot shown in the screenshot and he should have at least asked for a second opinion because there is nothing about being there in the MOTD) and was defiantly wrong with the axe, but Andy was also wrong to aggravate him. I am also disappointed at Dante's behavior in this thread though, it is unnecessary to breakdown every single part of everyone's posts and counter them. There's nothing wrong with defending yourself but that is a little much. Also making direct comparisons to two different people is not good as well. Admin abuse threads should be a place of evidence and discussion, not arguing and disrespect.
So, I am giving Dante a weeks suspension for a few reasons; his behavior, the fact he is just a newly minted trial admin and that he's pushing himself way to hard. Being on for 16-18 hours a day isn't something to brag about, that's unhealthy. Take a break, watch how some of the other, more experienced admins handle things, and make sure you have the rules and punishment standards memorized. Thread locked.