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CG Administration Section => Ban Appeal => Solved Ban Appeals => Topic started by: ItzMatt on July 14, 2013, 08:05:20 PM
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Who were you banned by: I don't remember
Why were you banned: What happened was there were no admins on and someone prop killed me on my t round, Obviously I took the game to seriously and I revenge rdmed him the next round. That round that I killed him back about 2 more poeple tried to kill me and I defended and I killed them. So someone got an admin on and banned me permanatley. If I do get unbaned I will be happy and make sure it won't happen agian.
What server where you banned from: ttt
What date and/or time around were you banned: About a month ago
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:65436858
Your in game name: ItzMatt
Link to your steam page: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091139445/
Additional comments:
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Banned By: DJBilly
Banned: July 2
Permanantly Ban
Reason: get out
Thats what the logs say. Apparently Billy didnt put a good description.....
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Seems quite unprofessional Billy. Care to elaborate?
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I Do admit to revenge rdming on the guy, but this is one of my favorite servers and I would really like a 2nd chance. :)
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I promise that nothing like that will happen again.
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Did you leave after revenge rdm? or did you get banned while online
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Oh, I remember this guy. Yeah, he got RDMed and he mentioned that he was just going to get revenge on the guy, ... so he did, and then he left. I don't really remember the details. When I give a reason like that though, it's because you did really bad things. I guarantee it was more than just revenge RDM. I'm pretty sure it was revenge + 3.
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Can you provide more evidence Billy? Pictures?
Cortez, can you check the damagelogs?
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TTT isn't really my forte and forgive me if I have no place in this ban appeal but... Billy it's fine that you banned him for the RDM and stuff, but you can't just say "get out" for the reason. If there are ban appeals you guys need to know what occurred and what caused the ban especially if you can't remember what exactly happened, the description will serve as a reminder so you can remember exactly (and if not exactly then you could at least be reminded) so that when an appeal come around you can share your side of the story...
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Can you provide more evidence Billy? Pictures?
Cortez, can you check the damagelogs?
I honestly don't remember the explicit details in what happened.
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Yes I was online, and I agree with red I would really like to be able to explain to the admin before he bans me. Like I said in the appeal I revenge rdmed him but 2 more people wanted to kill me (Thinking I was a traitor, instead of just letting them kill me, I did fight back and unfortunately I did get the kills. I really am sorry and I would be extremely grateful for one more chance to prove that I can play for real with other players on this great server.
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Billy I know your trying to do whats best for the server, but as soon as you got on the server you didn't even hesitate to ban me without knowing what happened :/
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Matt, please use the modify button to avoid double posting.
Billy, didn't you take any pictures of the damage logs or his karma? You need to have evidence to back up bans in case people make appeals, it helps us avoid having to dig through damage logs. Were there any other admins on at the time to verify this as well, that would help.
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i'm pretty sure i was on when he ban him and it was a deserve ban
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So I guess I just wait it out... Caboose I remember the only admin that was on was dj and he got on right after the rdm. That was one of the main problems, I was having an argument with another player about how the person who rdmed me on my t round wasn't going to get a punishment but when I revenge rdm I was gonna get banned. If only there was an admin on to slay him when he did rdm me none of this would of happen. But I also do know revenge rdm would of just made the problem bigger, I guess I wasn't really thinking.
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Oh, I remember this guy. Yeah, he got RDMed and he mentioned that he was just going to get revenge on the guy, ... so he did, and then he left. I don't really remember the details. When I give a reason like that though, it's because you did really bad things. I guarantee it was more than just revenge RDM. I'm pretty sure it was revenge + 3.
This is false. If he rdm and left YOU could not have banned him as a trail.
Also, if he revenge rdm's and defends himself, that is not reason to add more punishment. They are not more rdm, but he is defending himself.
Please, follow the punishment standards and use proper banning reasons.
As far as I see, he should be unbanned do to, honestly, poor administration on Billy's part.
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Oh, I remember this guy. Yeah, he got RDMed and he mentioned that he was just going to get revenge on the guy, ... so he did, and then he left. I don't really remember the details. When I give a reason like that though, it's because you did really bad things. I guarantee it was more than just revenge RDM. I'm pretty sure it was revenge + 3.
This is false. If he rdm and left YOU could not have banned him as a trail.
Also, if he revenge rdm's and defends himself, that is not reason to add more punishment. They are not more rdm, but he is defending himself.
Please, follow the punishment standards and use proper banning reasons.
As far as I see, he should be unbanned do to, honestly, poor administration on Billy's part.
He may have derped. It is possible, I actually remember a similar circumstance. I called billy in game because someone was saying he was going to revenge rdm a mass rdmer, I told him not too and billy joined only for the two to pretty much try gunning down each other and other players, to then get gunned down by other players. It may be the same person but it may just be different people. I remember billy getting them both before they could leave.
Edit: Different guy then.
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There was poor judgement on my part, and his. He revenge RDMed, as well as murdering 2 others, and I banned him (perhaps too harshly) before he had a chance to speak.
I apologize for the informality, but chances are, I was in a bad mood. Usually, I'll be busy or just not in the mood to play, and I get an invite from someone saying there's an RDMer on the server, so I go in and spectate them for a round or two and then do what needs to be done after. I've only banned 2 or 3 people with the reason "get out" and it was all usually because they blatantly broke rules with the intent of breaking them -- and they usually don't appeal because they never play on the CG server anyway.
So, as he said himself, he DID revenge RDM someone, and in turn ended up killing 2 more after that. Perhaps he didn't leave after, I don't know. I can't say for sure.
TL;DR: I don't remember the full story, I didn't listen to what he had to say prior to banning him, I may have banned him too harshly for what he did; however, it is confirmed he Revenge RDMed one, and RDMed (self defense unconfirmed) 2 others.
As the admin that banned him, I believe the ban should be reduced to a week. Tower is right, that was poor administration on my part. Actually, the ban should just be lifted, period, since its been over a week since the ban.
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Thank you very much, I appreciate the help from the others. Billy I understand that the situation was bad, and I apologize for putting you in that position. Thanks again for the ban being lifted. :) :)
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Alright if somebody could unban this fellow it would be great.
Matt: Please follow the rules of the server. 'Street justice' is not a valid reason to kill somebody. If people break the rules, feel free to take a screenshot of the damage logs and post a formal ban request. We always check that page out and so long as the evidence is good, you can be certain that they will get proper punishment. Also looking at your history, I suggest being on your best behivor. Seems like you have had quite alot of bans lately on other servers and I can ensure that if you do not follow the rules, you will be punished accordingly.
Billy: Make sure you put in the correct reason for banning somebody. Every admin will not remember every single ban, but putting in the correct reason will jog your memory. I would also suggest taking screenshots of the evidence for future appeals. FRAPS has a screenshot button and the screenshots themselves take up very little space.
Other TTT admins: Please, please, please take screenshots/videos before you ban somebody. Damage logs, chat, etc anything that will be considered as evidence. That way when somebody does make an appeal, all you have to do is bring up said evidence. If you can't get evidence, at least have another admin with you that can verify what happened.
When he gets unbanned, please post on here so this can be locked.
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Thank you very much, I will follow the rules. I look foward to having great fun on conjoint gaming ttt :)
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Okay, he's unbanned. Thread locked.