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Title: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Guztav. on October 21, 2013, 02:24:20 PM
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/345942/Nasa-admit-huge-asteroid-could-destroy-Earth-in-just-NINETEEN-years

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/18/were_doomed_again_as_astronomers_spot_asteroid_that_could_hit_earth_in_2032/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2465563/Will-world-end-2032-Ukrainian-astronomers-discover-massive-asteroid-hit-earth-power-2-500-nuclear-bombs.html

...thoughts?

Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Old Crow on October 21, 2013, 02:32:35 PM
Daily Star, the US Weekly of news aka its bullshit.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Guztav. on October 21, 2013, 02:40:41 PM
Daily Star, the US Weekly of news aka its bullshit.
There's actually a few more sources I believe, but yep you never know when it comes to these sites
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Old Crow on October 21, 2013, 02:49:18 PM
Give me BBC, NY times or WSJ. If I don't see it there, then its not reliable.

Edit: Also did you even read the articles dude?? Russian boss says it (yeah, they have been doing a stellar job lately :P),
 and one of the articles you posted says NASA says its a 99.984% miss chance, so now you are confusing me.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: arth987 on October 21, 2013, 02:58:16 PM
Give me BBC, NY times or WSJ. If I don't see it there, then its not reliable.

Edit: Also did you even read the articles dude?? Russian boss says it (yeah, they have been doing a stellar job lately :P),
 and one of the articles you posted says NASA says its a 99.984% miss chance, so now you are confusing me.
LOL the liberal vibe you put out.... Ny times is shit BBC is shit. WSJ in particular is shit.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Old Crow on October 21, 2013, 03:23:37 PM
Give me BBC, NY times or WSJ. If I don't see it there, then its not reliable.

Edit: Also did you even read the articles dude?? Russian boss says it (yeah, they have been doing a stellar job lately :P),
 and one of the articles you posted says NASA says its a 99.984% miss chance, so now you are confusing me.
LOL the liberal vibe you put out.... Ny times is shit BBC is shit. WSJ in particular is shit.

BBC is consistently known as the best and most unbiased news source. The others aren't as unbiased but still good.

Leet, TBH you have nothing to worry about. 1) Its predicted for 2032. 2) 99.984% chance its going to miss. 3) A few years before it gets close, NASA will be able to predict its path better, so stop freaking out!
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Christovski on October 21, 2013, 03:42:44 PM
BBC is consistently known as the most unbiased news source

This, it still is gonna have some bias, but it is much more trustworthy than most of the other sensationalist shitty news sources.

And as has been stated, We've had these near misses in the past, it is nothing new and nothing to panic about.  With that good of a chance of missing, it would be easy to knock it the tiniest bit off course if it comes that close.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Tictactoe360 on October 21, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
Good, earth needs a nice ass kicking for all the shit it caused.
Poor Pluto never did anything to anybody and then we took his title away because we thought he was too little.

Besides the Earth is the smug asshole in this group
"Oh look at me, I've got life on me."

Oh shut up Earth, nobody cares anymore it's lost the novelty value.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Dante on October 21, 2013, 04:09:55 PM
Even if that .1% chance happened, couldn't we just nuke it?
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Leetgrain on October 21, 2013, 04:19:20 PM
If it's real, then... I don't know, may just be me being apathetic today, but I'm not worried - and I'm not saying that it won't hit, but I'm saying I'm not worried is because there's no need for me to be, 19 years is a long time, and I will have opportunities to do everything I want to do. If it's certain oblivion, then I'm just going to live on as usual, and when the time comes close, I'm going to tie up any loose ends, fix out any regrets I may have, and take a holiday somewhere beautiful with my partners, and watch the end of the world with the two people I love and adore.

Actually sounds pretty tranquil.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Billy on October 21, 2013, 04:37:35 PM
Who cares?

If it happens, neat. If it doesn't, boring.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Guztav. on October 21, 2013, 04:52:14 PM
Give me BBC, NY times or WSJ. If I don't see it there, then its not reliable.

Edit: Also did you even read the articles dude?? Russian boss says it (yeah, they have been doing a stellar job lately :P),
 and one of the articles you posted says NASA says its a 99.984% miss chance, so now you are confusing me.
I skimmed through the other 2, just to show that there were other sources, and whatever, it's not that big of a difference :P
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Leninade on October 21, 2013, 06:53:16 PM
Even if that .1% chance happened, couldn't we just nuke it?
Think pretty much every international space treaty signed by just about everyone prohibits doing stuff like that. Nukes in high orbit = very bad things for a lot of people. Fallout in jetstreams isn't a good thing.

But yeah, we could probably hit it with your regular store-brand ICBM. Just no nuclear payload.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Dante on October 21, 2013, 07:37:33 PM
Even if that .1% chance happened, couldn't we just nuke it?
Think pretty much every international space treaty signed by just about everyone prohibits doing stuff like that. Nukes in high orbit = very bad things for a lot of people. Fallout in jetstreams isn't a good thing.

But yeah, we could probably hit it with your regular store-brand ICBM. Just no nuclear payload.
Who said in the Atmosphere? Im talking before it even gets close to the moon.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Inject OH 4 on October 21, 2013, 08:36:13 PM
New generally doesn't lie... it over hypes or extenuates. It's up for the common man to read between the lines.

The source then therefore should be mostly irrelevant.
NASA says it could hit us in 19 years....
This happens all the time. What are the chances? 1 in 2000? Yeah... we are fine.

Also we have protection from this kind of stuff, so if we found it would hit us we could still protect our self.

So while you may not like the source. It wasn't lieing it just made it seem like a big deal when it isn't as all. Thus it is still relevant news.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Blazyd on October 21, 2013, 09:07:33 PM
Even if that .1% chance happened, couldn't we just nuke it?

Causing billions of meteorites to rain all over earth and cause widespread damage? I don't think so.


Also, it's more like 1 in 60,000 chance that it'll actually hit earth. There's a better chance of this asteroid striking earth than you winning basically any lottery.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Dante on October 21, 2013, 09:28:12 PM
Even if that .1% chance happened, couldn't we just nuke it?

Causing billions of meteorites to rain all over earth and cause widespread damage? I don't think so.


Also, it's more like 1 in 60,000 chance that it'll actually hit earth. There's a better chance of this asteroid striking earth than you winning basically any lottery.
You can blow it up super far away from earth. Or did everyone forget that?
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Tictactoe360 on October 21, 2013, 10:04:50 PM
Even if that .1% chance happened, couldn't we just nuke it?

Causing billions of meteorites to rain all over earth and cause widespread damage? I don't think so.


Also, it's more like 1 in 60,000 chance that it'll actually hit earth. There's a better chance of this asteroid striking earth than you winning basically any lottery.
You can blow it up super far away from earth. Or did everyone forget that?

What would you suggest?
America wastes another several billion dollars to send a nuke into space, towards an asteroid that could potentially shift its course at any time due to a number of things. That also has a almost .5% chance of hitting us in 19 years.

It's a waste of money and a bad idea in general.
If it's going to hit us, it'll hit us, maybe it won't be one big one anymore, it'll just be thousands/hundreds of smaller ones capable of hitting a much larger area.

Unless someone manages to come up a better solution in the next 19 years, there's no proper way to stop an asteroid especially one of that size.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on October 21, 2013, 10:19:46 PM
If the asteroid is big a nuclear bomb will do shit all. Even if you do manage to blow up it up the fragments will still be big enough and fast enough to cause an apocalyptic event. It would only take an asteroid the size of an american football field to destroy the ecosystem.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Inject OH 4 on October 21, 2013, 10:21:22 PM
Even if that .1% chance happened, couldn't we just nuke it?

Causing billions of meteorites to rain all over earth and cause widespread damage? I don't think so.


Also, it's more like 1 in 60,000 chance that it'll actually hit earth. There's a better chance of this asteroid striking earth than you winning basically any lottery.
You can blow it up super far away from earth. Or did everyone forget that?

What would you suggest?
America wastes another several billion dollars to send a nuke into space, towards an asteroid that could potentially shift its course at any time due to a number of things. That also has a almost .5% chance of hitting us in 19 years.

It's a waste of money and a bad idea in general.
If it's going to hit us, it'll hit us, maybe it won't be one big one anymore, it'll just be thousands/hundreds of smaller ones capable of hitting a much larger area.

Unless someone manages to come up a better solution in the next 19 years, there's no proper way to stop an asteroid especially one of that size.
There already is better solutions. If within 10 years or 18 years we know for a fact if it will hit or not NASA will send it of course, and not explode it. Is actually not that hard. Theres videos on this. It's all been done before. easy peasy.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: raddude-pancake ruler on October 21, 2013, 11:38:33 PM
This is another bullshit doomsday story. It's will be the same as y2k and 2012 after it doesn't happen there will be a new doomsday story for people to worry about.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Tictactoe360 on October 22, 2013, 12:06:37 AM
This is another bullshit doomsday story. It's will be the same as y2k and 2012 after it doesn't happen there will be a new doomsday story for people to worry about.

Isn't this our 7th apocalypse prediction in the last 15 years?
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Old Crow on October 22, 2013, 01:13:28 AM
This is another bullshit doomsday story. It's will be the same as y2k and 2012 after it doesn't happen there will be a new doomsday story for people to worry about.

Isn't this our 7th apocalypse prediction in the last 15 years?

20th if your part of a cult.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Dante on October 22, 2013, 01:32:41 AM
Even if that .1% chance happened, couldn't we just nuke it?

Causing billions of meteorites to rain all over earth and cause widespread damage? I don't think so.


Also, it's more like 1 in 60,000 chance that it'll actually hit earth. There's a better chance of this asteroid striking earth than you winning basically any lottery.
You can blow it up super far away from earth. Or did everyone forget that?

What would you suggest?
America wastes another several billion dollars to send a nuke into space, towards an asteroid that could potentially shift its course at any time due to a number of things. That also has a almost .5% chance of hitting us in 19 years.

It's a waste of money and a bad idea in general.
If it's going to hit us, it'll hit us, maybe it won't be one big one anymore, it'll just be thousands/hundreds of smaller ones capable of hitting a much larger area.

Unless someone manages to come up a better solution in the next 19 years, there's no proper way to stop an asteroid especially one of that size.
I am saying we threaten the Meteor with nuclear warfare till we know it will miss or not and if it would hit we nuke it in such a way that it either doesn't exist or goes off course.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5bNe7sQanTk/TmXTyVls5eI/AAAAAAAAAmc/1GAbixtZLOA/s1600/Poster%2B-%2BExterminatus%2B1.jpg)
That or we get a bunch of wizards and teleport onto the Meteor fighting the Banes on it with the assistance of garou. (http://digitalgothic.net/Rules/hr_symbols.gif)
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Finniespin on October 22, 2013, 07:53:50 AM
It would only take an asteroid the size of an american football field to destroy the ecosystem.
How big was the meteor in russia?
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Inject OH 4 on October 22, 2013, 09:20:18 AM
It would only take an asteroid the size of an american football field to destroy the ecosystem.
How big was the meteor in russia?
"1.5-metre-long (five-foot-long) rock from the lake"
Not big.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Finniespin on October 22, 2013, 09:41:04 AM
"1.5-metre-long (five-foot-long) rock from the lake"
Not big.
What was the estimated initial size before it went into the atmo burn?
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: crovv on October 22, 2013, 11:47:33 AM
"1.5-metre-long (five-foot-long) rock from the lake"
Not big.
What was the estimated initial size before it went into the atmo burn?

Here's the quote from Wikipedia (doing college stuff at the minute, else I'd research it more):

"With an estimated initial mass of about 10,000 tonnes (11,000 short tons ...), and measuring between 17 and 20 metres in size..." [source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor)]

The atmosphere absorbed most of the object's energy, with a total kinetic energy before atmospheric impact equivalent to approximately 440 kilotons of TNT (about 1.8 PJ), 20–30 times more energy than was released from the atomic bomb detonated at Hiroshima, and about 10% greater than the former Soviet Union's own RDS-6s "fusion boosted" nuclear device's test detonation on August 12, 1953.

With an estimated initial mass of about 10,000 tonnes (11,000 short tons, heavier than the Eiffel Tower), and measuring between 17 and 20 metres in size, it is the largest known natural object to have entered Earth's atmosphere since the 1908 Tunguska event that destroyed a wide, remote, forested area of Siberia. The Chelyabinsk meteor is also the only meteor confirmed to have resulted in a large number of injuries.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Leetgrain on October 22, 2013, 02:07:25 PM
Guess nobody really agrees with my point on not caring (well, not a point, really), and just living life regularly for those nineteen years. There's no point worrying if it's bound to hit or not, because if chances are that it does hit, either we'll find a way to stop it, or it will be instantaneous, and most definitely non-painful.

Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: crovv on October 22, 2013, 03:24:04 PM
Guess nobody really agrees with my point on not caring (well, not a point, really), and just living life regularly for those nineteen years. There's no point worrying if it's bound to hit or not, because if chances are that it does hit, either we'll find a way to stop it, or it will be instantaneous, and most definitely non-painful.

This.

I also thought your original post was (insert synonym for good here), but hadn't had a chance to reply.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: AlphaWeeaboo on October 22, 2013, 04:22:33 PM
There's been so many of these predictions I don't really believe in any of them anymore. Also it's funny how a majority of these predictions actually have a slim chance of hitting us behind them.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Old Crow on October 22, 2013, 07:42:39 PM
There's been so many of these predictions I don't really believe in any of them anymore. Also it's funny how a majority of these predictions actually have a slim chance of hitting us behind them.

But..but.... it could happen man!

(http://www.kerrydean.com/pictures/balloon-boy-meme-i-want-to-believe.jpg)
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Leninade on October 24, 2013, 12:54:57 AM
Even if that .1% chance happened, couldn't we just nuke it?
Think pretty much every international space treaty signed by just about everyone prohibits doing stuff like that. Nukes in high orbit = very bad things for a lot of people. Fallout in jetstreams isn't a good thing.

But yeah, we could probably hit it with your regular store-brand ICBM. Just no nuclear payload.
Who said in the Atmosphere? Im talking before it even gets close to the moon.
I don't think you quite understand what kind of jurisdiction a Space treaty encompasses. Even then, using nukes on it when it's far out is still a bad idea. The leftover debris would still be moving in the same general direction, and there's no guarantee that it'll all be far enough away from the Earth. Sure the debris would likely not be as catastrophic, but again, you're potentially releasing radioactive material into the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Dante on October 24, 2013, 02:20:26 AM
Even if that .1% chance happened, couldn't we just nuke it?
Think pretty much every international space treaty signed by just about everyone prohibits doing stuff like that. Nukes in high orbit = very bad things for a lot of people. Fallout in jetstreams isn't a good thing.

But yeah, we could probably hit it with your regular store-brand ICBM. Just no nuclear payload.
Who said in the Atmosphere? Im talking before it even gets close to the moon.
I don't think you quite understand what kind of jurisdiction a Space treaty encompasses. Even then, using nukes on it when it's far out is still a bad idea. The leftover debris would still be moving in the same general direction, and there's no guarantee that it'll all be far enough away from the Earth. Sure the debris would likely not be as catastrophic, but again, you're potentially releasing radioactive material into the atmosphere.
Because posting Exterminatus pic means nothing.It was a joke Hence the Exterminatus pic
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Fluffalupagus on October 24, 2013, 02:23:23 AM
Just gonna leave this here...

http://history.nasa.gov/conghand/nuclear.htm

Basically what I'm trying to say is a nuke would be useless. Space is a vacuum. Which means no waves. Which means no blast or heat, only a shit ton of radiation.

Soooo if it is gonna hit us we can't blow it up. No meteor showers for us! :(
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Dante on October 24, 2013, 02:25:07 AM
Just gonna leave this here...

http://history.nasa.gov/conghand/nuclear.htm

Basically what I'm trying to say is a nuke would be useless. Space is a vacuum. Which means no waves. Which means no blast or heat, only a shit ton of radiation.

Soooo if it is gonna hit us we can't blow it up. No meteor showers for us! :(
But exterminatus solves everything!
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on October 24, 2013, 04:35:44 PM
Just gonna leave this here...

http://history.nasa.gov/conghand/nuclear.htm

Basically what I'm trying to say is a nuke would be useless. Space is a vacuum. Which means no waves. Which means no blast or heat, only a shit ton of radiation.

Soooo if it is gonna hit us we can't blow it up. No meteor showers for us! :(

THIS! I said this, but a source is always nice :P
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Leetgrain on October 24, 2013, 05:29:47 PM
Just gonna leave this here...

http://history.nasa.gov/conghand/nuclear.htm

Basically what I'm trying to say is a nuke would be useless. Space is a vacuum. Which means no waves. Which means no blast or heat, only a shit ton of radiation.

Soooo if it is gonna hit us we can't blow it up. No meteor showers for us! :(

THIS! I said this, but a source is always nice :P

Looks like we're going to have to mine an earth-sized hole into it! xP
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Fluffalupagus on October 25, 2013, 01:27:12 AM
Just gonna leave this here...

http://history.nasa.gov/conghand/nuclear.htm

Basically what I'm trying to say is a nuke would be useless. Space is a vacuum. Which means no waves. Which means no blast or heat, only a shit ton of radiation.

Soooo if it is gonna hit us we can't blow it up. No meteor showers for us! :(

THIS! I said this, but a source is always nice :P

Looks like we're going to have to mine an earth-sized hole into it! xP

Soooo... Grab a shovel guys! And a space suit. Time to save the Earth. :D
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: FluffyHeals on November 09, 2013, 04:18:52 PM
19 years is a long time to develop more advanced missiles to destroy it or more advanced methods to deflect it, by the time a significant asteroid crosses our path head on we would be able to deal with it easily. We are far more of a threat to ourselves than any random space rock heading our way.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Sejo Mino on November 09, 2013, 04:20:38 PM
Talk about necro. Anywayz PLz don't necro old threads.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: FluffyHeals on November 09, 2013, 04:26:47 PM
Sorry.
Title: Re: Nasa admit huge asteroid could destroy Earth in just NINETEEN years
Post by: Guztav. on November 09, 2013, 08:15:02 PM
locked.
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