Honestly I don't think that he should ever be unbanned from the forums, however I do believe that there is nothing wrong with him being unbanned on the servers.
The blood's in the water now. Everyone in CG has been a dick to someone else in CG at any given time, so where do we draw the line is the real question.
So it really comes down to:
Who is in charge of determining people's intent, and determining what ACTUALLY is breaking the rules and what isn't? Because it seems like some things people get away with are pretty bad, whereas things other people get punished for don't that bad at all (I'm speaking about this generally because it has been brought up, I understand why Crypto can't be unbanned) so really, who makes these decisions/judgements, and how are they held accountable? There is a LOT of bias evident in this thread here, I think Alpha's post above is the only one without significant bias.
TL;DR: some punishments over the course of CG seem pretty biased to me, and there is lots of -hopping and misinformation. What steps are we taking/CAN be taken to ensure FAIR judgement? Because this thread seems like a massive mess of bias to me.
'Unban' on servers +1, Crypto's always good to have on ZPS.
Unban on forums -1, There's no real way to do this without looking like we're hypocrites, and he will inevitably say one thing someone will take the wrong way and not understand the sarcasm and he will get pbanned from the forums AGAIN making us all look EVEN WORSE.
What we NEED is a system of rough standards/guidelines (meaning it doesn't have to be like NO MATTER WHAT THIS IS THE PUNISHMENT) for punishments for forum rule breaking because the way it stands right now everything is vague as shit, and some people have gotten away with bending the rules/breaking minor rules repeatedly with no recourse taken because there doesn't seem to be any tracking of who committed what offense, so we need a system of accountability like I mentioned, like from hereThe blood's in the water now. Everyone in CG has been a dick to someone else in CG at any given time, so where do we draw the line is the real question.
So it really comes down to:
Who is in charge of determining people's intent, and determining what ACTUALLY is breaking the rules and what isn't? Because it seems like some things people get away with are pretty bad, whereas things other people get punished for don't that bad at all (I'm speaking about this generally because it has been brought up, I understand why Crypto can't be unbanned) so really, who makes these decisions/judgements, and how are they held accountable? There is a LOT of bias evident in this thread here, I think Alpha's post above is the only one without significant bias.
TL;DR: some punishments over the course of CG seem pretty biased to me, and there is lots of -hopping and misinformation. What steps are we taking/CAN be taken to ensure FAIR judgement? Because this thread seems like a massive mess of bias to me.
Re hypocrisy: Because I'm fucking sick of everyone saying "LOLOLOL THIS WOULD BE LIKE UNBANNING REBELMASTER OR LILG THIS IS STUPID GG" and because he was banned a shitload of times and as I said, it would only be a matter of time before someone gets butthurt and bans him again
Like a certain former CL
If you want Pillz, I can make a new thread (or maybe the CLs want to whip something up?) covering the whole issue of accountability and who has been punished for what, and making sure we have fair judgement and not someone being butthurt, so we can have a proper discussion of this issue
Kinda makes you wish we could all be robots like Bananas always claims to be eh?