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Title: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 06, 2013, 05:23:25 PM
Hey everyone, I saw and commented on this in the most recent news post, but I thought I'd make a thread here as well to get more opinions on the subject.

Basically, according to the meeting notes, there was some discussion on selling Conjoint-related shirts. Since I've had experience with selling community-related merch before, I thought I'd elaborate on the idea and make some suggestions. Here's what I said in the other thread:

I see the idea of T-Shirts were discussed, and I'd be happy to help out setting up a shirt shop for Conjoint.
I've done something similar for the last gaming community I was part of, we used Spreadshirt and recruited designs from our art board. Shirts were generally $20, making about $3-$5 each and had designs on them relating to community in-jokes and logos.
If we did the design recruiting thing I'd recommend accepting designs in a dedicated board, and figuring out a way to pay the artist ~ 50% of the profits from the shirts a month.

So I'm asking you guys: What do you think of the prospect of a CG merch setup? I'd be happy to get everything working and include all the CLs and whatever in running it.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Leetgrain on December 06, 2013, 05:31:00 PM
As in prev post:

I see the idea of T-Shirts were discussed, and I'd be happy to help out setting up a shirt shop for Conjoint.
I've done something similar for the last gaming community I was part of, we used Spreadshirt and recruited designs from our art board. Shirts were generally $20, making about $3-$5 each and had designs on them relating to community in-jokes and logos.
If we did the design recruiting thing I'd recommend accepting designs in a dedicated board, and figuring out a way to pay the artist ~ 50% of the profits from the shirts a month.

That would actually be pretty damn good. I'd love to help out with some designs. As would some others here. And with a ~50% cut it would definitely help everyone involved.

Would love to help make some shirts, both CG centered, and different designs.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 06, 2013, 05:33:08 PM
Would love to help make some shirts, both CG centered, and different designs.

Sweet! Also, I should say that they don't have to be CG-related specifically, it could be used as a portal for CG members to get their designs out in the world and make a little dosh doing so.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Christovski on December 06, 2013, 05:33:24 PM
The problem we've had with shirts in the past is cost. 

Even $20 is a bit steep for something like a CG shirt, unless somehow we get ridiculously good designs that look so amazing people decide they want to pay $20 for it
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 06, 2013, 05:38:56 PM
The problem we've had with shirts in the past is cost. 

Even $20 is a bit steep for something like a CG shirt, unless somehow we get ridiculously good designs that look so amazing people decide they want to pay $20 for it
I do know there's a limit on how low prices can get on SS, but we could even sell some (or all) shirts for no premium (and thus little gain) for about $16 such as one of my favorite YouTubers does (http://broteam.spreadshirt.com/).
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: crovv on December 06, 2013, 05:43:32 PM
The problem we've had with shirts in the past is cost. 

Even $20 is a bit steep for something like a CG shirt, unless somehow we get ridiculously good designs that look so amazing people decide they want to pay $20 for it
I do know there's a limit on how low prices can get on SS, but we could even sell some (or all) shirts for no premium (and thus little gain) for about $16 such as one of my favorite YouTubers does (http://broteam.spreadshirt.com/).

We could also just set up a shop site from CG's website and use a printing company such as:

http://www.jakprints.com/all-over-shirt-printing/
http://www.customink.com/

If we use one of these and order something like 50 shirts at a time, we could get prices around $9-16 each shirt, and sell them for $15-20 each. I'm not sure what the prices for SpreadShirt are, but I found this: http://www.spreadshirt.com/volume-discount-vs-bulk-t-shirts-C6873.

So. Just some looking into we could use.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 06, 2013, 05:48:10 PM
Customink is nice, but only for bulk orders of 30+ shirts.
I think we'd have to do limited runs of stuff to keep prices down, which wouldn't necessarily be bad, we'd just have to hit that 30+ mark to keep prices low.

That being said, if we could be at least 75% sure we'd hit that mark, I don't see the problem with doing sales like that.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: HerpDerpMike on December 06, 2013, 05:53:02 PM
I think bracelets would be cool, I would definitely buy one.

Shirts seem a little too, expensive and I don't think many people would buy em. I wouldn't wear it personally :P.

I didn't read any of the posts above, have to go in like 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Leetgrain on December 06, 2013, 05:55:54 PM
I think bracelets would be cool, I would definitely buy one.

Shirts seem a little too, expensive and I don't think many people would buy em. I wouldn't wear it personally :P.

I didn't read any of the posts above, have to go in like 5 minutes.

Then is there really any point posting now? ¬,¬

You don't even know what will be on offer. And yeah, prices are a bit wonky, but this is what the thread's for, to find a good price range.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: HerpDerpMike on December 06, 2013, 05:57:08 PM
I guess I should have waited but still..

bracelets would be 'mazing.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Billy on December 06, 2013, 05:59:50 PM
Customink is nice, but only for bulk orders of 30+ shirts.
I think we'd have to do limited runs of stuff to keep prices down, which wouldn't necessarily be bad, we'd just have to hit that 30+ mark to keep prices low.

That being said, if we could be at least 75% sure we'd hit that mark, I don't see the problem with doing sales like that.

Once we get a design and stuff, have people preorder shirts, so you have an idea of how many you'd need to get? If it's 30+ go with customink, if not go with somewhere else?
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: crovv on December 06, 2013, 06:02:09 PM
Once we get a design and stuff, have people preorder shirts, so you have an idea of how many you'd need to get? If it's 30+ go with customink, if not go with somewhere else?

I like this. Preorders would give us a sense of scale per shirt design, so we could get the best deal for each shirt.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Leetgrain on December 06, 2013, 06:05:58 PM
This'd work very well. Can't click on the links atm. But if you could find a template, us creative people could make some stuff. I'm willing to make some T-shirt designs.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Kwaurtz on December 06, 2013, 06:11:43 PM
I'd be willing to try out making a shirt design.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 06, 2013, 06:41:12 PM
Once we get a design and stuff, have people preorder shirts, so you have an idea of how many you'd need to get? If it's 30+ go with customink, if not go with somewhere else?
Crovv posted earlier that Spreadshirt would do bulk orders for cheap, so if we could get at least 12 people to preorder, we'd get 15% off. After that, price would depend on colors, type of shirt, and shipping. I'll make a mockup with the CG logo to check costs, but after that all we'd need to worry about would be hitting the 12-person mark.

Hell, if we could get 50 preorders, the shirts would be like $7 each, before shipping.

Edit: Looks like shirts are about $18 apice if I individually make them with the CG logo, that'd be $15 each after the discount (before shipping and taxes). I did find the old Conjoint shop (http://conjointgaming.spreadshirt.com/), looks like prices are pretty steep there. If we did limited runs with preorders, I'm pretty sure we could get prices way down.

Edit 2: Holy hell, I forgot how nice spreadshirt is. For a shirt designed on 100% pre-shrunk cotton and an image with a few colors, the shirts are only $16 (http://conjoint-gaming.spreadshirt.com/men-s-heavyweight-t-shirt-A14074525/customize/color/1). Note that this is before shipping, but damn, that's cheap.
(Assuming you live in the US, shipping is $4.50, bringing the price for a shirt up to $20)

Edit 3: What about my shirt?
I'd be willing to try out making a shirt design.
Us creative people could make some stuff. I'm willing to make some T-shirt designs.
All I need for a design is a PNG or JPG that's about 1000x1000 (dimensions can vary, but that's what it should be roughly). It has to have a transparent background and you need to use 5 colors at the most. Other than that, go ahead and create some stuff, I'll throw it up on the shop to see what the prices look like.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: DBag on December 07, 2013, 10:13:33 AM
Whatever they say do not let there be a Doge shirt.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Billy on December 07, 2013, 01:12:47 PM
Whatever they say do not let there be a Doge shirt.

DOGE SHIRT

Or a parrot shirt.  parrot
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Tyber on December 07, 2013, 01:51:10 PM
Totes is my thing. Damn you.

Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Yahtzee on December 07, 2013, 09:56:03 PM
I'd buy one.. assuming kwaurtz made the designs.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 07, 2013, 09:56:23 PM
So since there's pretty positive feedback on the shirts, I say we try a campaign. How about people PM me designs for a CG shirt, and I'll put up a poll with them to decide which to ship. Afterwards, I'll set up a preorder form and see how many people actually want one.
We'll aim for at least 20 pre-orders, because with that shirts should be $15ish each after shipping and taxes, and I could send them out to everyone who ordered one.

I'm thinking Google Docs and Paypal, so we could get addresses privately and in an organized fashion.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Ðeath. on December 07, 2013, 10:05:50 PM
as long as inject doesn't know my shipping address, kthx.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 07, 2013, 10:12:20 PM
as long as inject doesn't know my shipping address, kthx.
I'd handle shipping if it couldn't be done automatically. Assuming the CLs and whatnot are ok with that :P
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: otterfiend on December 07, 2013, 11:46:42 PM
I may or may not have edited a selfie photo of inject.

(http://i.cubeupload.com/XkvFDJ.png)

You are all welcome.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: DBag on December 08, 2013, 12:01:10 AM
Oh god no.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Dante on December 08, 2013, 12:03:34 AM
What would be the biggest the shirts can be and the smallest?
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 08, 2013, 12:19:45 AM
What would be the biggest the shirts can be and the smallest?

Small to XXL

(http://i.cubeupload.com/XkvFDJ.png)

Nice
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Dante on December 08, 2013, 12:21:42 AM
Well if this happens I can guarantee a purchase of 3-9 shirts in the course of 3-9 months. As long as the designs look good of course.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Christovski on December 08, 2013, 04:35:49 AM
I may or may not have edited a selfie photo of inject.

(http://i.cubeupload.com/XkvFDJ.png)

You are all welcome.

If this was a shirt I would buy it.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: DBag on December 09, 2013, 05:12:48 PM
I know I said otherwise but I want a Dogeject shirt
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 15, 2013, 03:08:34 AM
I know I said otherwise but I want a Dogeject shirt
I can totally make that happen, if otter's ok with me putting his design on the shop.
Also, we still need designs for a CG shirt drive, so PM those to me plz <3 (I'm working on one of my own as well)
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: DBag on December 15, 2013, 06:29:11 AM
I will speak for otter and say he is ok with it. Me and him are pumped for DogeJect
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Christovski on December 18, 2013, 05:43:50 PM
I would buy a Dogeject shirt, as long as its not a white or grey shirt because white shirts get wrecked easily, and I hate how gray shirts are always a composite of different shades of gray and look shitty.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: DBag on December 19, 2013, 08:20:45 AM
So that would leave black for a neutral color
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 19, 2013, 03:46:35 PM
So that would leave black for a neutral color
If it's just a shirt on the store (which I'll put up soon, btw), you can choose colors.
If we did a shirt drive, we'd need to agree on a color though.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Lux on December 22, 2013, 02:05:01 AM
If this happens, i will be both excited and impressed. :3
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 22, 2013, 08:41:41 PM
Well, our first shirt officially community-sourced just went up, meet Dogeject (http://conjoint-gaming.spreadshirt.com/dogeject-A14179646/customize/color/63), and Dogeject for the ladies (http://conjoint-gaming.spreadshirt.com/dogeject-pour-femme-A14179650/customize/color/63).

If anyone wants to send me more designs, I'll gladly put them on the shop and send you 50% of everything earned off commission (the other 50% will go to Conjoint). Also, if anyone would like to help me with CSS and other design for the store, that'd be awesome!
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Ðeath. on December 23, 2013, 03:36:38 AM
...... Well this happened. I'll wait for a shirt to rep that won't make one of my friends murder me. Not even in my sleep. Just where I stand.(the doge-ness of the shirt is unfavorable)
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Red on December 23, 2013, 05:26:07 AM
...... Well this happened. I'll wait for a shirt to rep that won't make one of my friends murder me. Not even in my sleep. Just where I stand.(the doge-ness of the shirt is unfavorable)
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 23, 2013, 11:08:36 PM
...... Well this happened. I'll wait for a shirt to rep that won't make one of my friends murder me. Not even in my sleep. Just where I stand.(the doge-ness of the shirt is unfavorable)
Yep, this was mostly for shits and giggles. I have still recieved 0 suggestions or artwork concepts to use for the shirt drive. I assume we need some sort of incentive to get people to make them, despite the fact they'd get 25%-50% of the profits of the drive (depending on how many shirts are ordered, etc.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Leetgrain on December 24, 2013, 12:22:03 AM
...... Well this happened. I'll wait for a shirt to rep that won't make one of my friends murder me. Not even in my sleep. Just where I stand.(the doge-ness of the shirt is unfavorable)
Yep, this was mostly for shits and giggles. I have still recieved 0 suggestions or artwork concepts to use for the shirt drive. I assume we need some sort of incentive to get people to make them, despite the fact they'd get 25%-50% of the profits of the drive (depending on how many shirts are ordered, etc.

Well that's a little wrong. *cough*

Maybe nothing CG oriented. But maybe that's up to the head admins to decide - server oriented shirts that could be decided by community (hand picked by HA, or all if slim pickings) for some benefits on server, maybe?
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: RalphORama on December 24, 2013, 01:34:29 AM
Well that's a little wrong. *cough*

Maybe nothing CG oriented. But maybe that's up to the head admins to decide - server oriented shirts that could be decided by community (hand picked by HA, or all if slim pickings) for some benefits on server, maybe?
You did PM me a design, I lost it unfortunately :/ As for commissions, everything I put on the shop has a 60% commission for creators. If it were to be a shirt drive, IE we have 30-50ish people sign up for one shirt so they're cheap, I'd give more of the profits to CG since it would be community-oriented, and thus beneficial towards CG itself.
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Blackllama on December 24, 2013, 03:10:29 AM
There are some designs/ideas in these threads: (WARNING: I didn't read these threads before linking them, some are very old. All I know is they talk of t-shirts.)
http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=4148.0
http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=566.msg5940#msg5940
http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=5811.0
http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=7929.0
Title: Re: Shirts for Conjoint?
Post by: Shikaru on December 24, 2013, 03:27:43 AM
looks cool
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