Hidden Servers Ban Appeal

[BillSmauz]

Self defense killing is revenge teamkilling!!  If he just would have let Batman kill him and not revenge teamkill then I would have seen the 6th teamkill earlier, and Batman would have been banned.  BillSmauz did not listen to my warnings and that got him banned.

You let Batman kill me for 2+ rounds straight, even after warning him. It didn't seem like you were taking any action against him so I did what I think most players would do, kill him before he kills me. It would help my case if you posted the entire console log so you can gain a perspective on my actions and see that, while they're not justified, are somewhat excusable given the circumstances.

Like I stated in my earlier posts, this is an isolated incident which I regret taking, disobeying orders from an admin (whom I didn't know was an admin) and continuing to revenge TK. If you guys see it fit to stick by a strict policy with no room for interpretation then there isn't much I can do to change your minds.

And I've already admitted to revenge TKing, I'm not saying that the admins were in the wrong in punishing me, it's the duration of the ban that concerns me. Additionally, if you didn't count every single TK I did against Batman, I would not have surpassed the 6-TK limit.

[CashPrizes]

You let Batman kill me for 2+ rounds straight, even after warning him. It didn't seem like you were taking any action against him

That decision is the admin's call. And I KNOW for a fact that Echo allows 1-2 teamkills to happen, with warning, to see whether or not the user will comply with his warning(s). But I end it here.

Edit: I do believe it is time for this thread to be closed and not allow further discussion.

[oobla37]

Reading this, pyro says it was 11 team kills. I don't care the status of other people, you teamkilled 11 people. I vote ban stays, it clearly says no thing in the motd, so batman would have been likely banned if you had just let him to you. That's how people get punished. Ban stays IMO.

[BillSmauz]

Reading this, pyro says it was 11 team kills. I don't care the status of other people, you teamkilled 11 people. I vote ban stays, it clearly says no thing in the motd, so batman would have been likely banned if you had just let him to you. That's how people get punished. Ban stays IMO.

Where is everyone getting the number 11? If you can show me proof that I TK'ed 11 people then I vote that the ban stays as well.

[oobla37]

This shows 11 Teamkills, while 6 teamkills is already a permanent ban, please explain why we should unban you.

I understand that an accident while shooting the hidden can happen, but 11 teamkills is REALLY suspicious.

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L 05/21/2013 - 16:15:41: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" joined team "Spectator"
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L 05/21/2013 - 16:18:01: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><Hidden>" with "fn2000"
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L 05/21/2013 - 16:21:47: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:22:18: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" say "Ibanana shot me last round"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:22:21: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" say "so I killed him"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:22:23: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" say "retard"
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L 05/21/2013 - 16:25:40: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<14>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:25:40: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<14>" with ""
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L 05/21/2013 - 16:25:45: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<24>" with ""
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L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:12: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Ron Burgandyâ„¢<61><STEAM_0:1:16645509><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:13: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
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L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:14: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Echochrome4<62><STEAM_0:0:59670684><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:14: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Echochrome4<62><STEAM_0:0:59670684><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:14: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Echochrome4<62><STEAM_0:0:59670684><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:15: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" for "<24>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:15: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:15: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
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L 05/21/2013 - 16:30:02: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><Hidden>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:30:02: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><Hidden>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:30:03: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><Hidden>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:30:03: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><Hidden>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:24: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:24: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:24: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:25: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:25: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:35:17: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" disconnected (reason "You have been banned by this server, check http://www.conjointga")
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That would be from the head admin, I haven't looked over this, but I sort of trust pyros counting skills.

EDIT: Counted, definitely 11 TKs

[BillSmauz]

That would be from the head admin, I haven't looked over this, but I sort of trust pyros counting skills.

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L 05/21/2013 - 16:15:41: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" joined team "Spectator"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:15:41: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><>" entered the game
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L 05/21/2013 - 16:18:01: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><Hidden>" with "fn2000"
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L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:12: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Ron Burgandyâ„¢<61><STEAM_0:1:16645509><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:13: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:13: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:14: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Echochrome4<62><STEAM_0:0:59670684><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:14: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Echochrome4<62><STEAM_0:0:59670684><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:14: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Echochrome4<62><STEAM_0:0:59670684><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:15: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" for "<24>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:15: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:15: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:17: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<15>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:17: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<15>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:18: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<15>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:18: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<14>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:18: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<14>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:19: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<15>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:25: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<15>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:25: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" with "pistol2"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:30:02: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><Hidden>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:30:02: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><Hidden>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:30:03: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><Hidden>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:30:03: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><Hidden>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:24: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:24: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:24: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:25: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:25: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:35:17: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" disconnected (reason "You have been banned by this server, check http://www.conjointga")
L 05/21/2013 - 16:35:27: [META] Loaded 0 plugins (1 already loaded)
L 05/21/2013 - 16:35:27: [META] Loaded 0 plugins (1 already loaded)
L 05/21/2013 - 16:35:27: Log file closed

Clearly there aren't 11 TK's in this console log, feel free to double check it with Pyro's log because I didn't make any changes except bold the TK's I did.

If the admin had punished Batman after warning him to stop TKing, I wouldn't have TK'ed him and I wouldn't have been banned. Echo told us to stop but Batman continued to TK both me and and the admin, Echo chose to do nothing for a couple of rounds and I would rather play the game than be killed in the first few seconds of the round so I chose to TK Batman.

[Leninade]

That would be from the head admin, I haven't looked over this, but I sort of trust pyros counting skills.

EDIT: Counted, definitely 11 TKs

I only count 7. Have to keep in mind that it includes all damage done, even to the Hidden, who he's supposed to kill.

Still more than enough to justify a ban, and judging by the fact that he was shooting one person, killed someone else, then went back and killed the first person he shot is incredibly suspicious.

[CashPrizes]

I only count 7.

We will leave this to all mighty Pyro. Once he gets online, I'm POSITIVE he will leave his closing statements whether ban stays or not (7 is still valid for a permanent) and will most likely close the thread. That's basically it.

[BillSmauz]

That would be from the head admin, I haven't looked over this, but I sort of trust pyros counting skills.

EDIT: Counted, definitely 11 TKs

I only count 7. Have to keep in mind that it includes all damage done, even to the Hidden, who he's supposed to kill.

Still more than enough to justify a ban, and judging by the fact that he was shooting one person, killed someone else, then went back and killed the first person he shot is incredibly suspicious.

If Pyro would post the entire console log then you'd gain a complete perspective over what occurred. As it stands, the current console log only shows my actions (made before and after Echo arrived in the server). If you could view the entire console log then you would see Batman TKing 10+ people.

We will leave this to all mighty Pyro. Once he gets online, I'm POSITIVE he will leave his closing statements whether ban stays or not (7 is still valid for a permanent) and will most likely close the thread. That's basically it.

If the TK's I did against recurring players weren't counted then I would not reach the maximum. Both IBanana and Batman had been damaging/TKing players and there was no admin on at that time and I simply TK'ed them not only out of revenge but to prevent them from TKing other players on the server. While I understand that what I did was against the rules, I don't understand why I can't be given a 2nd chance given that I have no prior bans on my record and this is simply a one time incident. Obviously if I encounter a TKer on the servers in the future I'll go through the proper procedures of notifying an admin or posting a Ban Request.


I believe that my apology for my actions is sincere and that I truly have regret for disregarding the rules given that I took time to make this ban appeal (or ban reduction more or less) and responded to comments in an attempt to defend myself. If I simply didn't care about my actions then I wouldn't have taken time to register an account and make this post.

[Echochrome4]

That would be from the head admin, I haven't looked over this, but I sort of trust pyros counting skills.

L 05/21/2013 - 16:04:40: Log file started (file "logs\L0521062.log") (game "c:\gameservers\hiddenserver2\hidden") (version "4044")
L 05/21/2013 - 16:04:40: server_cvar: "sm_stk_version" "1.0d"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:15:41: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" joined team "Spectator"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:15:41: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><>" entered the game
L 05/21/2013 - 16:15:48: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><Spectator>" joined team "IRIS"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:18:00: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><Hidden>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:18:00: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><Hidden>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:18:00: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><Hidden>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:18:01: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><Hidden>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:18:01: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><Hidden>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:18:08: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" say_team "Checking In"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:19:30: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Commander Derpy<52><STEAM_0:1:55686926><Hidden>" for "<22>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:19:30: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Commander Derpy<52><STEAM_0:1:55686926><Hidden>" for "<21>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:20:17: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "StandingUpIsoverrated<58><STEAM_0:1:61138728><Hidden>" for "<23>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:20:19: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "StandingUpIsoverrated<58><STEAM_0:1:61138728><Hidden>" for "<23>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:20:27: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "StandingUpIsoverrated<58><STEAM_0:1:61138728><Hidden>" for "<23>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:20:27: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "StandingUpIsoverrated<58><STEAM_0:1:61138728><Hidden>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:21:32: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Tprav<51><STEAM_0:0:13485781><Hidden>" for "<23>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:21:32: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Tprav<51><STEAM_0:0:13485781><Hidden>" for "<23>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:21:33: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Tprav<51><STEAM_0:0:13485781><Hidden>" for "<23>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:21:33: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Tprav<51><STEAM_0:0:13485781><Hidden>" for "<23>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:21:33: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Tprav<51><STEAM_0:0:13485781><Hidden>" for "<23>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:21:33: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Tprav<51><STEAM_0:0:13485781><Hidden>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:21:46: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:21:46: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:21:47: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:21:47: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:21:47: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:22:18: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" say "Ibanana shot me last round"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:22:21: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" say "so I killed him"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:22:23: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" say "retard"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:25:39: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<14>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:25:40: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<14>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:25:40: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<14>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:25:44: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<24>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:25:44: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<24>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:25:45: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<24>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:25:45: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:10: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Ron Burgandyâ„¢<61><STEAM_0:1:16645509><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:11: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Ron Burgandyâ„¢<61><STEAM_0:1:16645509><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:12: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Ron Burgandyâ„¢<61><STEAM_0:1:16645509><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:12: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Ron Burgandyâ„¢<61><STEAM_0:1:16645509><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:12: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Ron Burgandyâ„¢<61><STEAM_0:1:16645509><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:13: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:13: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:14: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Echochrome4<62><STEAM_0:0:59670684><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:14: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Echochrome4<62><STEAM_0:0:59670684><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:14: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Echochrome4<62><STEAM_0:0:59670684><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:15: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" for "<24>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:15: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:15: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:17: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<15>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:17: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<15>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:18: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<15>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:18: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<14>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:18: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<14>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:19: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<15>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:25: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" for "<15>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:28:25: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "iBanana<48><STEAM_0:1:49677070><IRIS>" with "pistol2"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:30:02: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><Hidden>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:30:02: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><Hidden>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:30:03: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><Hidden>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:30:03: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><Hidden>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:24: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:24: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:24: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<26>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:25: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" hurt "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" for "<25>" with ""
L 05/21/2013 - 16:31:25: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "Batman<47><STEAM_0:0:46947107><IRIS>" with "fn2000"
L 05/21/2013 - 16:35:17: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" disconnected (reason "You have been banned by this server, check http://www.conjointga")
L 05/21/2013 - 16:35:27: [META] Loaded 0 plugins (1 already loaded)
L 05/21/2013 - 16:35:27: [META] Loaded 0 plugins (1 already loaded)
L 05/21/2013 - 16:35:27: Log file closed

Clearly there aren't 11 TK's in this console log, feel free to double check it with Pyro's log because I didn't make any changes except bold the TK's I did.

If the admin had punished Batman after warning him to stop TKing, I wouldn't have TK'ed him and I wouldn't have been banned. Echo told us to stop but Batman continued to TK both me and and the admin, Echo chose to do nothing for a couple of rounds and I would rather play the game than be killed in the first few seconds of the round so I chose to TK Batman.

Yes I think we all are counting wrong, this is him he killed the hidden:

L 05/21/2013 - 16:18:01: "IRS Recruit<57><STEAM_0:0:10041065><IRIS>" killed "asilveras<56><STEAM_0:1:60768862><Hidden>" with "fn2000"

Once you take all of those out it comes out to 7 team kills. 

I know I didn't ban Batman earlier, and sometimes my banning techniques can be weird, but I knew Batman was going to team kill again and go over the perma ban limit.  He did have a time were he stopped team killing so I waited to ban him, that when you came in and started killing him every round before he could even walk away. 

Your actions were wrong, you know that.  Because it comes out to 7, that should be a perma ban, but because it is your first time, I think that you can have a chance but with a small punishment.  I feel like the ban can be lowered to a week and during that week I just want you to take a break after all of this.  After that week your ban will be over and you come back. 

I believe that I will have one of the final votes on this, but I want everyone's opinion. 

Please read over what everyone has said and then give a +1 for supporting my opinion or -1 for keeping it a perma ban.  We wil vote and then make a choice. 

(Please lets not have long comments, keep it to things like if the time should be extended if you still want +1 but don't want a week, but maybe 2 or what ever amount.  Don't say perma and +1, that is for -1)

[Leninade]

I'd say a little longer for excessive tking (revenge tking is tking nonetheless) as well as ignoring admin warnings, so maybe a week and a half to two weeks, but if he admits that he's done something wrong and pledges to not do it again, I see no reason to perma ban him for a first offense. I know it can be frustrating when a tker joins a server, but you either gotta let admins do their job, or just let the TK limit do its thing.

[BillSmauz]

I'd say a little longer for excessive tking (revenge tking is tking nonetheless) as well as ignoring admin warnings, so maybe a week and a half to two weeks, but if he admits that he's done something wrong and pledges to not do it again, I see no reason to perma ban him for a first offense. I know it can be frustrating when a tker joins a server, but you either gotta let admins do their job, or just let the TK limit do its thing.

If there is a "TK-Limit Mod" up to 5 then how was I not auto-banned for exceeding 5 TK's?

[CashPrizes]

Echo, you were in the server when this happened. This is your call. If someone wants to overrule I say Pyro is the one to do it. Otherwise, your decision.

[Leninade]

I'd say a little longer for excessive tking (revenge tking is tking nonetheless) as well as ignoring admin warnings, so maybe a week and a half to two weeks, but if he admits that he's done something wrong and pledges to not do it again, I see no reason to perma ban him for a first offense. I know it can be frustrating when a tker joins a server, but you either gotta let admins do their job, or just let the TK limit do its thing.

If there is a "TK-Limit Mod" up to 5 then how was I not auto-banned for exceeding 5 TK's?

It requires the TK'ed player to not forgive the Tker. 5 unforgiven TKs and you get automatically banned for 3 hours, and a nice little entry in our ban lists.

[Red]

I'd say a little longer for excessive tking (revenge tking is tking nonetheless) as well as ignoring admin warnings, so maybe a week and a half to two weeks, but if he admits that he's done something wrong and pledges to not do it again, I see no reason to perma ban him for a first offense. I know it can be frustrating when a tker joins a server, but you either gotta let admins do their job, or just let the TK limit do its thing.

Similar view but... One more chance, 1.5 weeks starting after the vote, if he's not permabanned since he's already been banned for a bit.

If there is ANYTHING that he does, a spray, language, team shooting, team killing, disrespect towards admins or other players in anyway, he should be banned permanently. No more chances and no appeal.

I'd say a little longer for excessive tking (revenge tking is tking nonetheless) as well as ignoring admin warnings, so maybe a week and a half to two weeks, but if he admits that he's done something wrong and pledges to not do it again, I see no reason to perma ban him for a first offense. I know it can be frustrating when a tker joins a server, but you either gotta let admins do their job, or just let the TK limit do its thing.

If there is a "TK-Limit Mod" up to 5 then how was I not auto-banned for exceeding 5 TK's?

People can "forgive" you for teamkilling, or they can just not use the menu that pops up. Other times, if the player killed is inactive, or just because of a glitch, it will automatically forgive the player for the "accidental" teamkill.  Next time use that if someone is teamkilling so you can have your "revenge". You ought to know what it is.