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Reply #15
by Lamp on 23 Mar, 2013 22:00
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I understand that you didn't know at the time, but neither of the first two were RDM. Next time, please ask what happened first.
I accept responsibility for the second kill on Rooftops, simply because I don't think you'd lie about him not having a knife. The first one, as I've established, however, was out of my control.
Also regarding Temple -- I didn't feel compelled to explain anything after the round ended because nobody asked. Plus, I already had explained it once before.
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Reply #16
by Blackllama on 23 Mar, 2013 22:01
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Wait, why was it a perma?
Multiple Rounds of RDMx2. I apparently typed the wrong reason when I was writing it.
Ah, I see.
And, does this mean I have to follow the permaban format?
No, this appeal is fine. Permaban appeal is for community wide bans.
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Reply #17
by Lamp on 23 Mar, 2013 23:27
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...So, does the unceremonious termination of responses mean the ban stays? That's a shame. I'm still not entirely sure why I was banned in the first place, let alone why it's permanent. In the worst of cases, I committed two RDMs -- enough for a kick at most.
Oh well.
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Reply #18
by Billy on 23 Mar, 2013 23:36
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I personally feel that Lamp's actions don't warrant a permanent ban, nor does he deserve one.
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Reply #19
by Blackllama on 23 Mar, 2013 23:47
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Well, if we check the server logs we can figure out what really happened.
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Reply #20
by theyankees213 on 24 Mar, 2013 00:06
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1st. Anyone else who was on at the time please post on what you saw.
2nd. If it was an honest mistake like he says I would say reduce it to a week.
3rd. Be patient about this Lamp. These things take time between getting the logs and finding out what actually happened.
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Reply #21
by Link236 on 24 Mar, 2013 00:06
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I don't know if this is relevant at this point, but, if memory serves, he was a problem the whole time I was on the server. I believe I had to slay him once, and Unknown had to slay him multiple times. He RDMed multiple times, and never explained the RDMs either.
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Reply #22
by oobla37 on 24 Mar, 2013 00:11
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He was a troll. Went out of his way to find excuses to kill people 1 or 2 times I think.
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Reply #23
by Lamp on 24 Mar, 2013 00:18
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I think that both of you have me confused with someone else. Link, the last time I was slain on the server, if memory serves, was yesterday for propkill. Accidental propkill, but propkill all the same. It wasn't even you that slew me, either.
Oobla, I don't quite have a response to that because I have no idea what you're talking about. Who'd I kill, and what were my "excuses"? When was this? Really, the only explanations I remember having to make recently (in-game) were for the two kills I've already mentioned, on Temple. Aside from that I think it's been straightforward innocent-kills-traitor-kills-innocent.
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Reply #24
by Link236 on 24 Mar, 2013 00:21
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No, you were a troll. I specifically remember that.
And just to let you know, mocking and imitating admins will do you no help in getting this resolved.
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Reply #25
by Lamp on 24 Mar, 2013 00:24
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Really? I sure don't.
I can see your perception of me going into this -- you think I've slighted you when I was only drawing emphasis. It's rhetoric, not mocking or imitation. Sorry if it appeared that way.
Well, I think some clarification is in order. What do you define as trolling, and what was I doing to meet that definition? I don't think I was trolling, but it's all in the eye of the beholder in these matters.
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Reply #26
by Link236 on 24 Mar, 2013 00:41
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Well, I think some clarification is in order. What do you define as trolling, and what was I doing to meet that definition? I don't think I was trolling, but it's all in the eye of the beholder in these matters.
He was a troll. Went out of his way to find excuses to kill people 1 or 2 times I think.
And next time, edit your first post, don't double post.
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Reply #27
by Lamp on 24 Mar, 2013 00:51
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I've addressed that already; I don't recall devising any excuses to kill anyone. I just don't do that.
Plus, I asked why you thought I was a troll. You can't just cite someone else's unfounded convictions.
Now, I understand if you're confusing me with someone else (or more appropriately, if Oobla is), but you're being unreasonable.
I didn't RDM anyone, other than we've discussed, and I certainly didn't attach an 'excuse' to any of my kills.
I understand that it's your word (or Oobla's) against mine, and that mine doesn't count for much, and that I'm probably not going to be unbanned at this rate, but I'd at least like to know what it is that makes the two of you think I'm a troll. Not in generalizations -- specific events. I've had it with this vagueness.
On a lighter note, I've defied your signature -- not only am I leaving (if this post continues in the way it has), I'm being evicted.
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Reply #28
by ๖ۣۜNexus on 24 Mar, 2013 01:40
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I remember you Rdming 2 on lost temple and you rdmed the 3 of us on rooftop. I recall doing something (im pretty sure it was a mute or gag) and then you followed me and shot me randomly, your assault on me was not for any legit reason and was blantant RDM. If there was a third round I didnt see it but I can back up that you attacked 3 of us on Rooftops.
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Reply #29
by Jordan789 on 24 Mar, 2013 02:10
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-1 for unban. Obvious troll and persistent rdm.