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CG Administration Section => Ban Appeal => Topic started by: Sqiddwr on December 30, 2013, 07:24:43 PM
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Your in game name: Sqiddwr
Steam ID: 0:0:18902947
Who were you banned by: Dylan
Why were you banned: RDM and leave
What server where you banned from: ttt, hidden, etc: TTT
What date and time were you banned: Dec 29, around 5pm Atlantic time
Link to your steam page: http://steamcommunity.com/id/sqiddwr
Additional comments: Alright so here is how it went down. Game starts and I have to go to supper, but I spawn as detective. I
find some random guy and decide to just give him a frenchy and leave the server for supper, so I drop it for him and before I
leave I notice that he was unable to pick up the frenchy despite clearly trying and saying he was trying. This was at the start of
the game so the only logical explanation is that he was a T who bought a weapon, so I swiftly shotgun his face off and ID his
body to find he was of course a T. So then I leave the server and come back to find I was banned. It should be noted that I'm a
regular on the server and I would have gladly taken a slay as soon as I came back.
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Please wait until the admin who banned you replies.
If it means anything, this guy is from my era of ttt admin, so he's been a server regular for a looooong time.
He's a good guy, and I'm positive it was just an honest mistake, but please be more careful next time, not picking up a frenchy isn't exactly kosable, but I see your logic regardless. Technically it was rdm, but meeeeeh.
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Yeah, when I played years ago there was a whole fiasco about if that's a legitimate or fair way to find out if someone's a T or not.
Symbolz was demonstrating to me how it's a surefire way to figure out if they're a T, and killed 3 innocents before killing a Traitor with that tactic.
So I believe it's against the rules to kill someone for that because it's a bit unfair if the D just throws a frenchy at every player, and it doesn't always mean they're a T.
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I know it was technically RDM (TECHNICALLY AND NOTHING MORE) but he straight up said he couldn't pick it up and he was really trying, but it was still a hindsight on my part and I will gladly take responsibility for that, it's just that a week ban is kind of seriously over doing it. Also I know Dylan he plays on the server a lot and I have nothing against him, he was just doing his job, and I'm just trying to get this whole mess sorted out so I can go back to playing.
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I've played with him several times and I always thought he was a great dude... I think he should be un-banned and warned not to do it again (if this appeal doesn't already suffice as such). This whole thing just seems like it was a bit of a misunderstanding..
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Gonna say no, you were told before you left that it was RDM. You should have just waited until the next round to leave after you had taken your slay.
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I would've been AFK the entire time. I didn't wanna take up a player slot. Hell I didn't even think I was really gonna get slayed for it at the time.
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Gonna say no, you were told before you left that it was RDM. You should have just waited until the next round to leave after you had taken your slay.
"so I swiftly shotgun his face off and ID his body to find he was of course a T. So then I leave the server and come back to find I was banned."
He said he left after he shot him, not that he was told it was RDM. Nobody said he was told that, what are you referring to?
There is no "you should of waited for a slay" because he didn't think he did anything wrong until he was banned.
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Gonna say no, you were told before you left that it was RDM. You should have just waited until the next round to leave after you had taken your slay.
"so I swiftly shotgun his face off and ID his
body to find he was of course a T. So then I leave the server and come back to find I was banned."
He said he left after he shot him, not that he was told it was RDM. Nobody said he was told that, what are you referring to?
I do recall them saying that it was technically RDM while I was trying to hand off my frenchy.
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Gonna say no, you were told before you left that it was RDM. You should have just waited until the next round to leave after you had taken your slay.
"so I swiftly shotgun his face off and ID his
body to find he was of course a T. So then I leave the server and come back to find I was banned."
He said he left after he shot him, not that he was told it was RDM. Nobody said he was told that, what are you referring to?
I do recall them saying that it was technically RDM while I was trying to hand off my frenchy.
They were saying what you were doing was RDM before you even did it? Well that's sooper coincidental, idunno anymore then.
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Gonna say no, you were told before you left that it was RDM. You should have just waited until the next round to leave after you had taken your slay.
"so I swiftly shotgun his face off and ID his
body to find he was of course a T. So then I leave the server and come back to find I was banned."
He said he left after he shot him, not that he was told it was RDM. Nobody said he was told that, what are you referring to?
I do recall them saying that it was technically RDM while I was trying to hand off my frenchy.
They were saying what you were doing was RDM before you even did it? Well that's sooper coincidental, idunno anymore then.
No not before, after I did it they told me it was technically RDM. I assumed it was a just a warning/ heads up to not do it again in the future. I wasn't expecting to come back and be banned, let alone banned for a week.
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Gonna say no, you were told before you left that it was RDM. You should have just waited until the next round to leave after you had taken your slay.
"so I swiftly shotgun his face off and ID his body to find he was of course a T. So then I leave the server and come back to find I was banned."
He said he left after he shot him, not that he was told it was RDM. Nobody said he was told that, what are you referring to?
There is no "you should of waited for a slay" because he didn't think he did anything wrong until he was banned.
I was there
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Gonna say no, you were told before you left that it was RDM. You should have just waited until the next round to leave after you had taken your slay.
"so I swiftly shotgun his face off and ID his body to find he was of course a T. So then I leave the server and come back to find I was banned."
He said he left after he shot him, not that he was told it was RDM. Nobody said he was told that, what are you referring to?
There is no "you should of waited for a slay" because he didn't think he did anything wrong until he was banned.
I was there
So was I. The only "You should come back and take the slay" I got was from Scooby while I was AFK and eating my supper.
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Gonna say no, you were told before you left that it was RDM. You should have just waited until the next round to leave after you had taken your slay.
"so I swiftly shotgun his face off and ID his body to find he was of course a T. So then I leave the server and come back to find I was banned."
He said he left after he shot him, not that he was told it was RDM. Nobody said he was told that, what are you referring to?
There is no "you should of waited for a slay" because he didn't think he did anything wrong until he was banned.
I was there
So was I. The only "You should come back and take the slay" I got was from Scooby while I was AFK and eating my supper.
The point is people informed you that you had RDMed and you chose to leave anyway. Its always best to wait to leave after making a sketchy kill like that.
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Gonna say no, you were told before you left that it was RDM. You should have just waited until the next round to leave after you had taken your slay.
"so I swiftly shotgun his face off and ID his body to find he was of course a T. So then I leave the server and come back to find I was banned."
He said he left after he shot him, not that he was told it was RDM. Nobody said he was told that, what are you referring to?
There is no "you should of waited for a slay" because he didn't think he did anything wrong until he was banned.
I was there
So was I. The only "You should come back and take the slay" I got was from Scooby while I was AFK and eating my supper.
The point is people informed you that you had RDMed and you chose to leave anyway. Its always best to wait to leave after making a sketchy kill like that.
Like I said, I misinterpreted them as warnings/a heads up to not do it again, and also like I said, I didn't want to just sit around the game AFK for like 15 minutes because that would be pointless. I would have gladly accepted the slay as soon as I came back had I known what was going on. Besides, I'm not some random asshat who just goes around killing people for absolutely no reason. I play on this server a lot and people should know me well enough to realize that I just don't do that. All this ban is doing is being a pain in the ass for me. I've already got it in my head that I shouldn't kill for that reason again and I have nothing to gain by RDMing and leaving on my favorite server so what is the point of this ban? Besides I told everyone that I would be right back anyways. Maybe that comment fell upon deaf ears but they could have waited a bit for me to come back so I could then accept my slay, or at the very least gave me a bit more time to respond as they knew I was going to supper.
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Gonna say no, you were told before you left that it was RDM. You should have just waited until the next round to leave after you had taken your slay.
"so I swiftly shotgun his face off and ID his body to find he was of course a T. So then I leave the server and come back to find I was banned."
He said he left after he shot him, not that he was told it was RDM. Nobody said he was told that, what are you referring to?
There is no "you should of waited for a slay" because he didn't think he did anything wrong until he was banned.
I was there
So was I. The only "You should come back and take the slay" I got was from Scooby while I was AFK and eating my supper.
The point is people informed you that you had RDMed and you chose to leave anyway. Its always best to wait to leave after making a sketchy kill like that.
Like I said, I misinterpreted them as warnings/a heads up to not do it again, and also like I said, I didn't want to just sit around the game AFK for like 15 minutes because that would be pointless. I would have gladly accepted the slay as soon as I came back had I known what was going on. Besides, I'm not some random asshat who just goes around killing people for absolutely no reason. I play on this server a lot and people should know me well enough to realize that I just don't do that. All this ban is doing is being a pain in the ass for me. I've already got it in my head that I shouldn't kill for that reason again and I have nothing to gain by RDMing and leaving on my favorite server so what is the point of this ban? Besides I told everyone that I would be right back anyways. Maybe that comment fell upon deaf ears but they could have waited a bit for me to come back so I could then accept my slay, or at the very least gave me a bit more time to respond as they knew I was going to supper.
Whether or not you are slain is up to the person who was RDMed not the admins. The fact is you broke a rule and were punished for it, whether or not you get unbanned at this point is up to cortez.
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Yo what up just skimming through the thread, and ya he killed someone for not picking up his detective weapon which isnt killable. SEVERAL people / admins told him its RDM, then he left for dinner. He plays here enough to know whats happens to RDM / leaves and yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i dont give a fuck if he gets unbanned but i say just uh sit through the ban
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Yo what up just skimming through the thread, and ya he killed someone for not picking up his detective weapon which isnt killable. SEVERAL people / admins told him its RDM, then he left for dinner. He plays here enough to know whats happens to RDM / leaves and yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i dont give a fuck if he gets unbanned but i say just uh sit through the ban
Dylan I told you guys I was coming back. You could have just waited for me to come back and then slay me then or something. A fucking week ban for trying to clear up a slot for a few minutes is straight up dumb.
Edit: Also it's not that he didn't pick up the detective weapon, it's that he straight up couldn't. I now know that this isn't enough proof to KOS someone but damned if it isn't pretty much a confirmation at the start of a round. At any rate, my original point still stands.
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Okay, what I'm seeing is that you did something that you knew was against the rules. I know you're a regular and you realise what you did wrong and why you shouldn't do it in the future but that's not really a good enough reason to unban. You have to give me something better than that, otherwise I'm sorry but you'll just have to wait it out.
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I've said multiple times that I didn't know it was against the rules until afterwards. I assumed it was solid proof. Aside from not knowing, what the hell purpose does this ban serve? Is it supposed to make me understand that I shouldn't RDM and leave? Should I just loiter the server next time and take my slay while I'm not even around? What the fuck would that do? This whole situation is beyond stupid and I was seriously hoping you guys would see it that way as well. Just a waste of everyones god damned time. Now you are telling me that because I didn't gather just enough proof to murder some guy, and then I decided not to loiter the server, and I gave everyone a heads up in advance, that I'm gonna be banned for the last week I'm home with my good computer? Holy piss. Squid fucking mad.
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I've said multiple times that I didn't know it was against the rules until afterwards. I assumed it was solid proof. Aside from not knowing, what the hell purpose does this ban serve? Is it supposed to make me understand that I shouldn't RDM and leave? Should I just loiter the server next time and take my slay while I'm not even around? What the fuck would that do? This whole situation is beyond stupid and I was seriously hoping you guys would see it that way as well. Just a waste of everyones god damned time. Now you are telling me that because I didn't gather just enough proof to murder some guy, and then I decided not to loiter the server, and I gave everyone a heads up in advance, that I'm gonna be banned for the last week I'm home with my good computer? Holy piss. Squid fucking mad.
Hey man, I know it's unfair but there are times where people break the rules and we have to keep you banned to set an example for everyone else. We all know you didn't have ill intentions and we aren't labeling you as a rulebreaker, but if an admin made the same mistake they'd also get a week ban, things have been crazy in CG lately and we've got to start tightening up.
Just consider it water under the bridge and wait your ban out, and we'll be here for you when you return. I know it's upsetting because it's the end of the holiday break but if you want us to be there for you you're going to have to wait this one out.
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I was going to make a pretty long post about this, but I'll TL;DR it.
Sqiddwr, I've had no real problems with you. You seem like you were going to take the slay had you been told you were going to be slain. That being said, you did leave. So I'm half and half on unbanning you, but would not be against it. You've been banned for a couple days now for making a mistake - fair enough.
The one mistake people make on TTT is leaving when they've made a questionable kill. Just try to stay on the server until the end of the round, especially if you may have RDMed.
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TBH i fell like 1 rdm and leave should be a 3 day ban and not a weekban