I am the danger.
THE FALL OF THE ZM SERVER WAS AN INSIDE JOB
INJECT IS A REPTILIAN
INJECT FAKED THE MOON LANDING
INJECT HAS BEEN ADDING FLUORIDE TO THE FORUMS TO MAKE US STUPID AND DOCILE
IT'S ALL SO FUCKING CLEAR NOW
STAND UP AGAINST THE OPPRESSION.
RON PAUL FOR CL
I am the danger.(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1c0cc06cd2ce41e515c8564f4c52cc7d/tumblr_mpqre8E6yX1qcbbyko1_500.gif)
THE FALL OF THE ZM SERVER WAS AN INSIDE JOB
INJECT IS A REPTILIAN
INJECT FAKED THE MOON LANDING
INJECT HAS BEEN ADDING FLUORIDE TO THE FORUMS TO MAKE US STUPID AND DOCILE
IT'S ALL SO FUCKING CLEAR NOW
STAND UP AGAINST THE OPPRESSION.
RON PAUL FOR CL
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/6977c750f541b6d8782c6bcfb283c5b5/tumblr_mk0m19Td281qj1f89o1_400.gif)All according to plan
Did inject just call old crow a rogue moron?
Did Otter just call Inject Wholegrain 2?
OH THE DRAMA I LOVE IT!
THE FALL OF THE ZM SERVER WAS AN INSIDE JOB
INJECT IS A REPTILIAN
INJECT FAKED THE MOON LANDING
INJECT HAS BEEN ADDING FLUORIDE TO THE FORUMS TO MAKE US STUPID AND DOCILE
IT'S ALL SO FUCKING CLEAR NOW
STAND UP AGAINST THE OPPRESSION.
RON PAUL FOR CL
Silence human, your theories are weak and insignificant, much like your fragile mind and body.
These event were obviously set in motion by us several million years before your insignificant excuse for a species learned to crawl.
Oh boy. I'm not touching this with a ten foot pole until I hear comments from the CLs... but damn.I seconding this.
-Snip
Wait...what?-Snip
I just had a 3 page conspiracy theory about me controlling the servers and manipulating admins.
I believe, I'm in the clear for derailing the second theory that I've heard within the last 30 minutes.
On a serious note this seems important so how about we all just let the higher powers settle their problems eh?
Ok, for the sake of the argument, let's say Inject does want the ZM server to fail.Well he did call Old Crow a rogue moron.
Why? What's his motivation? Does he plan to sit there laughing his ass off that there's no ZM server?
"HAHAHA NOW THAT LOSER OTTER CAN'T PLAY ZM"
- Inject
I mean if he really wanted the server gone he could have been like "Yeah, server isn't active enough, let's just get rid of it."
Also, Inject, as you may have realized I never really like you much ever, but after reading that chat log, I have found a new respect for you and your wits. I laughed, I cried, and I laughed some more.On a serious note this seems important so how about we all just let the higher powers settle their problems eh?
Did you read the logs? It was just Otter being all like "INJECT I KNOW YOU TRIED TO DESTROY THE ZM SERVER FROM THE INSIDE, BUT I'M WISE TO YOU ALRIGHT"
and then Inject being like "Dude, are you off your fucking rocker?"
and then Otter being all like "INJECT IS AN EVIL REPTOID TYRANT TRYING TO DESTROY ALL WE KNOW AND LOVE"
and then Inject being like "Dude, calm down."
Well he did call Old Crow a rogue moron.
Ah who am I kidding, I just want MOAR drama.
And while were on the topic of batshit crazy,
WHAT IF WHOLEGRAIN IS INJECT??????
:o
Inject must be Illuminati... He also faked the moon landings. Also, Geoip, stop your heart.>Implying I have a heart.
Take a hint Gopib. Stop posting on this thread. This is a serious topic and you are spamming it which is against the rules. You shouldn't be braking the rules on the forums unless you want to be banned. *Points to Watched notification*Inject must be Illuminati... He also faked the moon landings. Also, Geoip, stop your heart.>Implying I have a heart.
You shouldn't be braking the rules on the forums unless you want to be banned. *Points to Watched notification*Inject must be Illuminati... He also faked the moon landings. Also, Geoip, stop your heart.>Implying I have a heart.
All I see here is a lot of people stirring the drama pot. Maybe you guys should sit down and talk about it without the name calling and massive-conspiracy accusations.You have to admit, that pot smells DAMN good.
EDIT: Also this thread title is gross.
I just got home. It's 12:18AM Aug 30th. Thank you for your obvious concern for my well being.
I have to be honest- I did not expect this to an extent.
However, now that is has happened it is time to break things down:
First things first- Raunky, you're the man, bro.
Secondly- yes, perhaps...maybe... I did flip out a bit (as most sane people do when people accuse them of being reptiles from outer space- which is how I perceived it to be from my end. As a sane person would do, unlike yourself, my friend, not that you are insane just that you would not do this).
At the time of the event, I had told Old Crow what I did- he accepted my apology, so he already was aware, unlike yourself as I myself am now aware.
"Old Crow and Cadaver have told me on multiple occasions all about how Inject decided to restrict server access from the other CL's."
Is this true? Because I most certainly was not informed, thank you kindly.
I do not recall anyone asking for anything in regards to this matter. I cannot read people's minds- if you have this capability, hats off to you, sir.
You must be in possession of skills far beyond my mere human capabilities, congrats to you.
If you had ask Jorgen (maybe you can teach him your skills as well) he has Server Box access- he is capable of shutting the entire server off (a skill you, my friend, must not possess). If you believe I am the only one here with this amount of control, you are sorely mistaken.
Thirdly, I never said that ZM should not have the server. Quite the contrary.
As Raunky said, I would have no reason to refuse them a server, as it is about having the server be done correctly. Surely you are aware of this, seeing as you know all there is about CG.
I am sorry if I do not like having certain things done incorrectly, it is only human nature to enjoy order and control. Maybe your have not grasped this concept yet, but it is lovely when things run smoothly, would you agree? It seems not. However, I feel that in the end things turned out for the best.
Either way, I have never been found saying "Muahaha! ZM will now fall and it will make me loads of dollar bills if my plan succeeds!"
That makes no sense and is an entirely inaccurate assumption of my character. This is not a game of "Guess Who".
As you can see, there is nothing to be repaired. This is my testimony of these events, Otter, I am glad you have decide to leave and that I will not have to keep you on my friends list for any length of time. That is one less person to annoy the absolute crap out of me with false information.
You know I would be most curious about seeing all these things from your point of view. I truly would be.
However I am incapable of shoving my head that far up my ass.
Have a great day :)
So I'm unlocking this thread, bring it back on topic I'll give it a chance. I'm open to people talking about me. If you think something really is up this will settle it.
I just got home. It's 12:18AM Aug 30th. Thank you for your obvious concern for my well being.
I have to be honest- I did not expect this to an extent.
However, now that is has happened it is time to break things down:
First things first- Raunky, you're the man, bro.
Secondly- yes, perhaps...maybe... I did flip out a bit (as most sane people do when people accuse them of being reptiles from outer space- which is how I perceived it to be from my end. As a sane person would do, unlike yourself, my friend, not that you are insane just that you would not do this).
At the time of the event, I had told Old Crow what I did- he accepted my apology, so he already was aware, unlike yourself as I myself am now aware.
"Old Crow and Cadaver have told me on multiple occasions all about how Inject decided to restrict server access from the other CL's."
Is this true? Because I most certainly was not informed, thank you kindly.
I do not recall anyone asking for anything in regards to this matter. I cannot read people's minds- if you have this capability, hats off to you, sir.
You must be in possession of skills far beyond my mere human capabilities, congrats to you.
If you had ask Jorgen (maybe you can teach him your skills as well) he has Server Box access- he is capable of shutting the entire server off (a skill you, my friend, must not possess). If you believe I am the only one here with this amount of control, you are sorely mistaken.
Thirdly, I never said that ZM should not have the server. Quite the contrary.
As Raunky said, I would have no reason to refuse them a server, as it is about having the server be done correctly. Surely you are aware of this, seeing as you know all there is about CG.
I am sorry if I do not like having certain things done incorrectly, it is only human nature to enjoy order and control. Maybe your have not grasped this concept yet, but it is lovely when things run smoothly, would you agree? It seems not. However, I feel that in the end things turned out for the best.
Either way, I have never been found saying "Muahaha! ZM will now fall and it will make me loads of dollar bills if my plan succeeds!"
That makes no sense and is an entirely inaccurate assumption of my character. This is not a game of "Guess Who".
As you can see, there is nothing to be repaired. This is my testimony of these events, Otter, I am glad you have decide to leave and that I will not have to keep you on my friends list for any length of time. That is one less person to annoy the absolute crap out of me with false information.
You know I would be most curious about seeing all these things from your point of view. I truly would be.
However I am incapable of shoving my head that far up my ass.
Have a great day :)
So I'm unlocking this thread, bring it back on topic I'll give it a chance. I'm open to people talking about me. If you think something really is up this will settle it.
If everyone who told me they had a problem with you actually stood up for something and told the truth, you would have a different attitude right now, but no, everyone involved decided to let it happen. This clearly is a sad day for honesty and judgement.
May Barney the dinosaur knock everyone who did so over the head with a soldering iron.
Fuck you all, I'm out.
Why can a CL break forum rules without intervention?
Why is it fine for a CL to yell at others via steam chat about video games, while others can't yell back at the CL for an actual concern?
Why is access for most CLs lower than one of them?
CG has a rule against rage quitters, which most of the ZM community seems to disregard, especially in this situation.
CG has a rule against rage quitters, which most of the ZM community seems to disregard, especially in this situation.
Sometimes you gotta cause some drama to trigger a change.
CG has a rule against rage quitters, which most of the ZM community seems to disregard, especially in this situation.
Sometimes you gotta cause some drama to trigger a change.
I don't understand what change everyone wants to be privvy about. The fact that in about three months we are going to run over budget? The fact that the CL's have things they wish not to discuss with everyone else becuase of their private lives or to prevent even more drama from being started? Honestly, CG is about as 'open' as any other clan. Sure, anyone can play on our servers and wear our tag, but the core groups of people who make up the forums are a few non admins, and the majority are admins. CG might as well call itself a clan versus a community.
All I want to know is why with teh ZM HA situation, Old Crow and Cadaver got nowhere talking to Inject, but as soon as Towersheep said something to Inject, he put up the HA nomination thread like 15 minutes later.It had nothing to do with Tower. It was Guvna, he was respectful and keep on about the situation.
So where is the disconnect with communication here? Do we need a better way for the CLs to communicate with each other so messages don't get lost and things don't get missed?
All I want to know is why with teh ZM HA situation, Old Crow and Cadaver got nowhere talking to Inject, but as soon as Towersheep said something to Inject, he put up the HA nomination thread like 15 minutes later.It had nothing to do with Tower. It was Guvna, he was respectful and keep on about the situation.
So where is the disconnect with communication here? Do we need a better way for the CLs to communicate with each other so messages don't get lost and things don't get missed?
I came on vent several times asking you calmly about it. Hell I have even messaged you on steam when I know you are steam because I could hear you talking to liam while playing games.All I want to know is why with teh ZM HA situation, Old Crow and Cadaver got nowhere talking to Inject, but as soon as Towersheep said something to Inject, he put up the HA nomination thread like 15 minutes later.It had nothing to do with Tower. It was Guvna, he was respectful and keep on about the situation.
So where is the disconnect with communication here? Do we need a better way for the CLs to communicate with each other so messages don't get lost and things don't get missed?
Acting calm 1 min and freaking out the next is like it never happened.
And like I said there were disagreements among the CL's on who the HA should be. In the end we had to pick one that most or more then 1 CL Agreed to. Like I said before this so called "secerate hidden CL magic" is so we don't hurt peoples feelings, Would you like me to tell you who hates/ like who? To bad. That's not how management works.
Acting calm 1 min and freaking out the next is like it never happened.
And like I said there were disagreements among the CL's on who the HA should be. In the end we had to pick one that most or more then 1 CL Agreed to. Like I said before this so called "secerate hidden CL magic" is so we don't hurt peoples feelings, Would you like me to tell you who hates/ like who? To bad. That's not how management works.
My only issue is that it shouldn't of been completely up to y'all who got HA. A lot of us were pushing Death a few months ago and I can't imagine why you or anyone would have anything against that. I didn't even get a response to it, but I imagine you've had enough at the time and kind of ignored it. That doesn't really bother me, but again it should of been more of a community decision and it should of happened way earlier than it did.
Acting calm 1 min and freaking out the next is like it never happened.
And like I said there were disagreements among the CL's on who the HA should be. In the end we had to pick one that most or more then 1 CL Agreed to. Like I said before this so called "secerate hidden CL magic" is so we don't hurt peoples feelings, Would you like me to tell you who hates/ like who? To bad. That's not how management works.
My only issue is that it shouldn't of been completely up to y'all who got HA. A lot of us were pushing Death a few months ago and I can't imagine why you or anyone would have anything against that. I didn't even get a response to it, but I imagine you've had enough at the time and kind of ignored it. That doesn't really bother me, but again it should of been more of a community decision and it should of happened way earlier than it did.
The community's say doesn't matter as much, because the community can vote someone into a position when they have no fucking idea what they are doing, and the CL's have another candidate who they think would do a good job but the community doesn't necessarily support. Honestly, if we are going to compare CG to being anything it is a Federal Republic just like the US.
I don't know where the poll thread is but I'm pretty sure death wasn't the hardest pushed.Acting calm 1 min and freaking out the next is like it never happened.
And like I said there were disagreements among the CL's on who the HA should be. In the end we had to pick one that most or more then 1 CL Agreed to. Like I said before this so called "secerate hidden CL magic" is so we don't hurt peoples feelings, Would you like me to tell you who hates/ like who? To bad. That's not how management works.
My only issue is that it shouldn't of been completely up to y'all who got HA. A lot of us were pushing Death a few months ago and I can't imagine why you or anyone would have anything against that. I didn't even get a response to it, but I imagine you've had enough at the time and kind of ignored it. That doesn't really bother me, but again it should of been more of a community decision and it should of happened way earlier than it did.
The community's say doesn't matter as much, because the community can vote someone into a position when they have no fucking idea what they are doing, and the CL's have another candidate who they think would do a good job but the community doesn't necessarily support. Honestly, if we are going to compare CG to being anything it is a Federal Republic just like the US.
Well in this situation all candidates for HA have had experience with FTP and whatnot before. Death was SKG's HA for ZM after the fall of Tictac, and Chris ran SKG while I'm sure Otter and whoever else has had experience also.
The community wouldn't vote someone in who has no idea what they're doing, while I'm sure it could happen; but the communities say should matter more. In the end we all got to vote on it which was good, but it it should not of taken so long. There's no getting around how ridiculously long it took, people were decently calm about it at first, but as nothing happened for weeks than months people became very irate about it. Everyone was probably PMing Inject pissy messages which isn't how to get things done but if it was "my" server I would of been just as mad.
I don't think the community should hold all the power but if everyone's QQing because there's no head admin, it shouldn't be a 5 month venture to obtain one. That's some shit I expect from congress, or the people who fix roads; but not CG where accomplishing that takes a few clicks and conversations.
I don't know. I've always felt like CG operates weird and never really understand why. I can't really explain it all because I don't really know all the issues; but I feel like most everything is up to Inject and I just don't feel like he should make all the calls. I believe he knows what he's doing, but with his busy schedule I really think he needs more help. I just want to see him willing to make that happen really. I know it's hard and complicated to run things but it's not impossible to pass that knowledge on.
Idunno; I'm spent on the subject. *poof*
The community's say doesn't matter as much, because the community can vote someone into a position when they have no fucking idea what they are doing, and the CL's have another candidate who they think would do a good job but the community doesn't necessarily support. Honestly, if we are going to compare CG to being anything it is a Federal Republic just like the US.The community's say matters to an extent, but yeah I know what you mean. And you are right. It's the same reason electoral collages exist.
All I want to know is why with teh ZM HA situation, Old Crow and Cadaver got nowhere talking to Inject, but as soon as Towersheep said something to Inject, he put up the HA nomination thread like 15 minutes later.It had nothing to do with Tower. It was Guvna, he was respectful and keep on about the situation.
So where is the disconnect with communication here? Do we need a better way for the CLs to communicate with each other so messages don't get lost and things don't get missed?
You know what we need to bring back, and almost make mandatory for Regular-Vet-Head-CL admins?
CG Meetings.
What would we discuss? Well that's up to yall, but to have everyone required to come in vent(TS now) and talk to each other about things would really alleviate tensions to a degree.
Then we can talk directly to inject and speak to one another, instead of playing message tag.
Um, who is "Guvna"? I've never heard of such a person in CG.I believe he was talking about this Guvnuh (http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=820).
Um, who is "Guvna"? I've never heard of such a person in CG.I believe he was talking about this Guvnuh (http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=820).
Guztav*Um, who is "Guvna"? I've never heard of such a person in CG.I believe he was talking about this Guvnuh (http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=820).
Well what does that guy have to do with any of what happened? I've never seen this person in my life @_@
You know what we need to bring back, and almost make mandatory for Regular-Vet-Head-CL admins?
CG Meetings.
What would we discuss? Well that's up to yall, but to have everyone required to come in vent(TS now) and talk to each other about things would really alleviate tensions to a degree.
Then we can talk directly to inject and speak to one another, instead of playing message tag.
But if we would have meetings to discuss important things, like apparently we have a money issue people have alluded to? I would get TS for that, it is important enough.
I forget if this was asked (I think it was, more-or-less, but not as blunt)I haven't heard from a single CL other then old crow. So assuming that stands true today, then I suppose we will just handle it our self's.
How long does it take to approve the Global Moderator applications?
If this is 'out-of-the-norm', then what is holding back the GM apps from being denied/accepted?
I forget if this was asked (I think it was, more-or-less, but not as blunt)I haven't heard from a single CL other then old crow. So assuming that stands true today, then I suppose we will just handle it our self's.
How long does it take to approve the Global Moderator applications?
If this is 'out-of-the-norm', then what is holding back the GM apps from being denied/accepted?
That's usually not the issue.I forget if this was asked (I think it was, more-or-less, but not as blunt)I haven't heard from a single CL other then old crow. So assuming that stands true today, then I suppose we will just handle it our self's.
How long does it take to approve the Global Moderator applications?
If this is 'out-of-the-norm', then what is holding back the GM apps from being denied/accepted?
Can we look into making this some kind of rule? It seems that with some things, the problem is the CLs communicating and agreeing which takes forever. Why cant it be if theirs something important at hand, a CL messages the others and proposes their idea. If no one or only some of the CLs respond in 3-5 days, those handle it themselves, to avoid long waits.