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CG Administration Section => Admin Abuse => Admin Department => Solved Admin Abuse => Topic started by: caboose74 on January 13, 2013, 10:15:24 AM
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Name of player reporting abuse: Caboose74
Steam ID, to facilitate unban if applicable: n/a
Server: ttt
Admin who is suspected of the abuse:Oobla, Nurse, Linkster, blazyd
In which server did the abuse occur?: ttt
What occurred, what did the abuse consist of:Trolling, sending porn link , Using similar name (using my name) , playing music, Using admin command @@ for personnel use (to play a game where haft of the server switch they name from X subject)
What time and day did it happen (put down your time zone too):11 pm est
Please link any evidence (videos, screen shots, etc.):
http://filesmelt.com/dl/server_2.dem
http://filesmelt.com/dl/server.dem
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=120094311
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=120094347
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=120094280
Additional comments: I thought i had a demo for country train but i guess it's didn't work , i would recommend checking the server log
also killing 2 inno when they said kos caboose with 10 people with my name wasn't the best idea i had, but i had to do it so people will stop using random name and maybe start doing something else then prop killing ( ttt_forest), then starting the game '' I switch my name every round because it's fun'' (country Train + island)
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This is very disappointing...
Going to download the Dem in a minute. Did this really happen, people...?
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At no point did i abuse, we were still admining, i left in the middle of it and have no idea what went down after i left, and i'm sure i don't want to find out. Yes, i was along with them, for 3 little "topics" but once it got too crazy, Blazyd and I talked in admin chat and tried to cool it down, but i'm not trying to rat anyone else out, but the other admins didn't want too. "It's too much fun." they said. Honestly, Caboose never said anything or did anything, you could've told people to stop or whatever it was. Caboose, being the smarter admin told the other admins, "This isn't the way to use admin chat."
Yes, there was an admin and alot of players spamming porn links, I wasn't there when people used your name, don't remember music, and they were using admin chat. So yes, i was along with their little fun for part of it and i apologize for what i did.
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I (or Tower) will have to check the logs about this one.
I really hope that none of this is true, otherwise I feel I'm going to be really disappointed and people will lose their admin.
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For the record, I never abused my powers. You can check in the logs but I'm almost positive I never used admin chat for any of this, and if I did, I'm sorry. I will admit though, I was in on the fun for a few rounds when we did "president names" and "food" and such, but then it started to get out of hand and that's about when I left. Everyone was really loopy last night so I don't remember everything. The admins were still admining through this (at least they were when I was on). Plus, really nobody complained so everything thought it was harmless fun. After I left, that's when everyone did the thing where they named themselves caboose. I wasn't on for that part, but that was a pretty unacceptable thing to do as almost everyone in the server had the same name, compared to when everyone named them self a food, everyone's name was different.
Once again I will admit, I was in on it for a while as it was kinda fun. When other admins were using the admin chat, I didn't step in to say anything as caboose did, and for that I apologize.
EDIT: I can't seem to open the demo file or play it in-game :/
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Sending porn link
Using admin command @@ for personnel use (to play a game where haft of the server switch they name from X subject)
also killing 2 inno when they said kos caboose with 10 people with my name wasn't the best idea i had, but i had to do it so people will stop using random name and maybe start doing something else then prop killing ( ttt_forest), then starting the game '' I switch my name every round because it's fun'' (country Train + island)
Sending Porn Links? I know English is your second language but come on.
You live in Québec, I know, but with 75% of your country speaking English, ahgr I don't even know anymore.
Point is The last line is italics, I don't even know what your trying to say there.
So did they send porn links, or did they change their name to sex positions. And in what way did they use Admin Chat for their advantage?
Now, on to the admins: @ Oobla, Nurse, Linkster, blazyd
I do feel it was immature to have you all set as sexual names when you are representing CG. You names are highlighted Yellow, everyone knows you are an admin and thus you represent CG.
From the sounds of it, at the very least some immaturity occurred.
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THIS is how little children become obsessed with our servers.
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I joined midway through and knew imediatly this was bad. I played along for 2 rounds, but when everyone did xbox gamertags (so everyone had same names) and caboose (impersonating) I said no and told them this had to stop. I said we needed to end, and was immediatly told not to by another admin. Caboose was trying to control the situation with me, and finally he stopped it. I was at the point of inviting Inject or Crow when it ended. I believe Nurse and Blazyd left before those last 2 really bad rounds.
Evidence: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=120051387
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=120051317
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=120051420
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/558711795743198854/B83BD0FF84CF3FCDDA12C279370D1AE332B5C6C0/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/558711795743200521/57287CD28A6F2F63A2277EADCF92F10285B19220/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/558711795743189651/0044A696B31534921F97DF7DDB4EE98CB64BDF0B/
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admins should have done damage control or something, not leave after all that, looks worse
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I was on during this game for a little while as well, I may have a demo as well I recorded during the animal name change I will check when I get home if it's needed. I got so confused with the constant name changes everyone was doing and ended up leaving after a round.
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Admins who left when they saw this going on, be happy you still have admin. It is your job to stop players AND admins from trolling (See yankees and Caboose for an example)
The following are no longer admin
Linkster: Using another admins names to troll and convincing others to do the same
Oobla: Using another admins names to troll and convincing others to do the same
Blazyd-: Posting porn links when you know it is against server rules
The following admins are being commended
Caboose: He handled the trolling well
Yankees: He helped to diffuse the situation
This is not acceptable:
(http://i.imgur.com/2CtMR.jpg)
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I might as well come out with it. Yes, I did get involved with this event, and I kinda went too far with it.
At the beginning, I was greeted by porn links in ttt_forest upon joining the server. Never was involved with porn links and never will. I didn't pay much attention on it anyway.
At country_train, yes, name switching was involved in this. Too involved. It gets crazier with Island until we used Caboose's name. That is when he demanded us to stop.
I don't remember hearing any music unless he was talking about ttt_theatre, involving sound clips of My Chemical Romance songs. Not much mic spam, I believe.
For the admin abuse thing, I don't occur of seeing any unusual things coming from admins (besides the name switching, of course) and all I know is that the admins were only using their chat for topics for the next subject of the name switching.
But yeah, it was a crazy night. I had too much fun and laughter and I am paying for it with a sore throat. Coming from the one who was involved, I apologized for getting too involved with it. It was obviously very immature of me and others.
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Linkster: is having fun against the rules? No its not. Changing your names to funny things is fine, but when you start condoning changing names to sexual things, which while not technically against the rules, nevertheless looks very unprofessional. As an admiin you are the face of our servers, hence you should have a sense of maturity and know what's in good taste, and when something is too far. Saying its too much fun to get in trouble just smacks of immaturity.
as for the others basically what tower said. Blayzd I'm quite upset that you posted a porn link on our server. An admin should NEVER even consider this.
I support Tower fully. You gentlemen know better. I'm really disappointed.
caboose, I commend you on a good job. Same goes for Yankees for trying to defuse the situation.
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I will admit to a little bit of immaturity and whatnot. I have to own up to my actions. I however did not do 2 things.
1. I did not encourage with words the caboose fiasco. I initially condoned it as a bad idea, however, the entire mass of regulars wanted to do it, and were pretty much unstoppable. I joined in, but realized roughly a minute in that it was a terrible idea. I was thinking about just killing myself when someone made the kos caboose joke and I said no don't do that. Nobody did, except for the real caboose. He blatantly rdmed me and lone mudkips.
2. I did not abuse the admin powers given to me. I used the admin chat for personal use, if that is abusing, I understand that much.
I also did not break any rules except for the name similarity rule, but everyone was identifiable by numbers anyways, but that really isn't a valid excuse anyways.
Was I unprofessional? Yes. Was I immature? Yes. But did I abuse? No.
To sum it up, there was a massive amount of regulars on, and we were just having fun.
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Linkster: Caboose97 seems to have your avatar and is an admin. Don't lie to me.
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I will admit to a little bit of immaturity and whatnot. I have to own up to my actions. I however did not do 2 things.
1. I did not encourage with words the caboose fiasco. I initially condoned it as a bad idea, however, the entire mass of regulars wanted to do it, and were pretty much unstoppable. I joined in, but realized roughly a minute in that it was a terrible idea. I was thinking about just killing myself when someone made the kos caboose joke and I said no don't do that. Nobody did, except for the real caboose. He blatantly rdmed me and lone mudkips.
2. I did not abuse the admin powers given to me. I used the admin chat for personal use, if that is abusing, I understand that much.
I also did not break any rules except for the name similarity rule, but everyone was identifiable by numbers anyways, but that really isn't a valid excuse anyways.
Was I unprofessional? Yes. Was I immature? Yes. But did I abuse? No.
To sum it up, there was a massive amount of regulars on, and we were just having fun.
"Just name yourself caboose with different numbers" is not encouraging? Watch the demo, you say that.
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Being fun and nice is one thing; but being immature and unruly is another. If an admin thinks to them self that maybe they shouldn't being doing this.. don't!
Regardless of whether or not abuse/trolling took place; this just looks poor on everyone's behalf. Admins should be discouraging this kind of behavior and maintain a respectable authority, if not the trolls will join in and have a field day when you try to ban them and try to justify your stupid antics against theirs. As vet's you should know better and if you can't take your responsibilities serious you can play as a regular player and be as stupid as you want at any time.
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Being fun and nice is one thing; but being immature and unruly is another. If an admin thinks to them self that maybe they shouldn't being doing this.. don't!
Regardless of whether or not abuse/trolling took place; this just looks poor on everyone's behalf. Admins should be discouraging this kind of behavior and maintain a respectable authority, if not the trolls will join in and have a field day when you try to ban them and try to justify your stupid antics against theirs. As vet's you should know better and if you can't take your responsibilities serious you can play as a regular player and be as stupid as you want at any time.
Well said Pillz.
I agree with Pillz so much I should make an entire topic about it....oh wait I did: http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=8687.0 (http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=8687.0)
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For me posting the porn link, I'm honestly dissapointed in myself for doing it. It wasn't the right thing to do and I wasn't thinking straight at the time since it was late at night and everyone was loopy. For that, I apologize.
As an admin, you mess up sooner or later, and I guess this is where I messed up. I really don't know why I was acting like that. I'm usually more calm and people think of me as a pretty good admin as I always take care of problems.
I love to admin the TTT server, but nobody doesn't screw up at times.
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Blazyd, after thinking about it and talking to some people I'll reconsider your removal. You are suspended for 1 week. You have have your admin back at 1:00pm EST next Sunday (1/20/13)
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Where the fuck was I for the porn links?
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For me posting the porn link, I'm honestly dissapointed in myself for doing it. It wasn't the right thing to do and I wasn't thinking straight at the time since it was late at night and everyone was loopy. For that, I apologize.
As an admin, you mess up sooner or later, and I guess this is where I messed up. I really don't know why I was acting like that. I'm usually more calm and people think of me as a pretty good admin as I always take care of problems.
I love to admin the TTT server, but nobody doesn't screw up at times.
I think we can all agree that everybody is human, but better judgment is warranted in a situation such as this.
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These guys never cause any sort of problems as administrators. Yeah, they goofed here, and we can all easily agree, but CG has purportedly been about turning the cheek and forgiving everyone for some sort of transgression once. I mean hell, I'm here, so is Rebelemaster. Do I think these guys should have their admin removed? No, but a suspension so they can mellow on what they did? Yeah.
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I also think its a bit ridiculous that we have admins whom have been yelled at multiple times, and are known for their abuse, and still have admin, and these guys mess up once and are completely stripped of it.
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I also think its a bit ridiculous that we have admins whom have been yelled at multiple times, and are known for their abuse, and still have admin, and these guys mess up once and are completely stripped of it.
^^^^^^^^^
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Oobla and Linkster have always been a role model for how an admin should act on CG, and yes, there behavior was unacceptable, and yes, they did break some rules.
However, I hope the same forgiveness given to Blazyd can be given to them.
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Perhaps since players get week bans, a week without admin then let them back on a trial basis? I don't really know the situation as I didn't watch the demo, but I've heard people talk about admins getting away with this sort of thing before.
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Stop locking threads so fast, give people time to reply. And don't lock an abuse thread that are less then A DAY old. Give it at least a week.
It is unprofessional and makes people want to leave or make more threads.
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My bad you guys. I'm actually a Nazi IRL.
no sorry I locked it too fast. Please continue to discuss!
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Linkster has been removed from admin once before, not really a role model.
The reason they were removed from admin is I warned all admins two weeks ago that if they acted unprofessional on the server or did nothing to stop people from breaking the rules.
Both players broke the rules and did nothing to people who were. They had their warning and ignored it.
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Linkster has been removed from admin once before, not really a role model.
The reason they were removed from admin is I warned all admins two weeks ago that if they acted unprofessional on the server or did nothing to stop people from breaking the rules.
Both players broke the rules and did nothing to people who were. They had their warning and ignored it.
Remove Caboose then who has done this multiple times and doesn't get involved unless it involves himself.